Billl Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) On 4/30/2023 at 1:20 PM, Chaos said: No. Mahomes was a consenus first round pick. Ajdusting for positional value, he was a bit of a reach at 10. But he is far from the biggest reach to succeed. A large faction o TBD sure seemed to think he was a huge reach. Edited May 2, 2023 by Billl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 2:07 PM, BADOLBILZ said: I doubt any fanbase was more in on Mahomes than Bills fans either. He was already getting hyped here on TSW in June of 2016. @thebandit27 was all over it. Yeah. There was a huge thread called something like The only Mahomes thread you’ll ever need. That was about 200 Mahomes threads ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Billl said: TBD sure seemed to think he was a huge reach. I don't think you understand the tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Chaos said: I don't think you understand the tweet. What tweet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 12 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: How about Patrick Chung, or Kyle Dugger. Both were considered huge reaches when BB drafted them. Chung had a very good career and Dugger is a top Safety. Duggar wasn’t a reach some people were talking about him in the 2nd round. There was actually a strong rumor out there that the Bills were going to take him in round 2 but NE beat them to the punch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikademus Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Aldon Smith from SF comes to mind. I remember just thinking "who?" when he was drafted. Career got derailed but while he was playing he justified being a first rd pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Ricky Williams... RB.. NO. Saints. He has a pretty damn good career till his off field actions got crazy. Solid RB and a character to boot. Many Laughed at Ditka for reaching for him but no one was laughing as Ricky Williams ran over 6000 yards his first 5 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 17 hours ago, boyst said: Dugger isn't there yet and people who paid attention knew he was going to be this good. He was considered a reach for the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: He was considered a reach for the second round. only by some - these critics and draft talking heads have so much to say that anyone could be a reach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 hour ago, boyst said: only by some - these critics and draft talking heads have so much to say that anyone could be a reach. Agreed! They were the only 2 I could think of as being considered a “reach” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) Maybe someone has already posted this. Gets me every time. Darius Leonard. "Bleacher Report: Darius Leonard one of Draft's Worst Picks" "Just grind like tomorrow isn't coming." Yikes!! Edited May 3, 2023 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) On 5/1/2023 at 10:10 AM, Bob in STL said: How is a 7th round and 14th round selection a reach? To me it was calculated risk that paid off big. In 1964 they drafted 20 rounds. And the NFL only had 14 teams. So the 88th pick (7th round) would be the equivalent of the 24th pick in the 3rd round today. Edited May 3, 2023 by Tuco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 1:15 PM, Chaos said: Not really. Most every players has someone criticizing. PFF and Football Outsiders both proclaimed it a great pick. Hurts was exected to be a third round pick, he went at 53 overall. He certainly has out performed his draft position. But that is not what the thread is about. Hurts does not really qualify as a reach. https://www.pff.com/news/draft-jalen-hurts-wasnt-a-good-pick-by-the-philadelphia-eagles-he-was-a-great-one On 4/30/2023 at 1:20 PM, Chaos said: No. Mahomes was a consenus first round pick. Ajdusting for positional value, he was a bit of a reach at 10. But he is far from the biggest reach to succeed. You are asking for examples and you are declaring most of them irrelevant because they don't fit your agenda. If someone is projected to go in the 3rd and goes in the 2nd, how is that not a reach? Hurts counts. Mahomes was viewed by many to be a reach. That's a fact. There was tons of concern about him coming from an air raid offense and he was viewed as a raw prospect. I know these don't fit your narrative, but show a little more honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 On 5/1/2023 at 2:08 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I’m gonna get gigantic **** for this, but Donte Whitner was considered a huge reach. He went on to have a pretty productive 11 year career. Donovan McNabb also. I remember the boos on draft day. Turned out pretty solid 👍 Whitner was clearly a really good player. Bills fans just wanted someone else. That's all it was. He had a good career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) Way too many people on here naming Donte Whitner....at no point in time did he ever make Marv Levy &Co look like geniuses In fact, it was quite the opposite 😄 Edited May 3, 2023 by BillsPride12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 On 4/30/2023 at 12:04 AM, GunnerBill said: Germain Ifedi Seldom have I ever hated a draft prospect as much as I hated Ifedi. He's in that Kevin Hogan/Nate Peterman rarified air. I still fondly remember the memes with him having pillows for hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/3/2023 at 12:05 PM, Tuco said: In 1964 they drafted 20 rounds. And the NFL only had 14 teams. So the 88th pick (7th round) would be the equivalent of the 24th pick in the 3rd round today. Yes. Making a 7th rounder even less of a risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 On 5/3/2023 at 1:43 PM, MJS said: You are asking for examples and you are declaring most of them irrelevant because they don't fit your agenda. If someone is projected to go in the 3rd and goes in the 2nd, how is that not a reach? Hurts counts. Mahomes was viewed by many to be a reach. That's a fact. There was tons of concern about him coming from an air raid offense and he was viewed as a raw prospect. I know these don't fit your narrative, but show a little more honesty. Your just wrong. Sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 37 minutes ago, Chaos said: Your just wrong. Sorry. When you have to keep telling others they're wrong, it's time to take a look in the mirror and see the one who is really wrong. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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