What does our O-Line look like now?

[Don Otreply]

  On 4/29/2023 at 7:21 PM, The Jokeman said:

I don't like the idea of Torrence next to Brown. 

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It seems like you don’t like much the last two days, 😂

[947]

Boettger was never going to make the team in 2023. They did him right by keeping him on the team to rehab, but he is not in the plans. He was already a replacement level OG at best, and is now coming off the absolute worst injury possible for an NFL player.

[NewEra]

  On 4/29/2023 at 7:43 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

At this point if I suggested Terry Pegula at right tackle I think you'd be willing to give it a chance if it means less Spencer Brown haha.

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I’m in the gym packing on the muscle right now!!!  I got this, we don’t need Terry
 

 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Big Cy, IMO, will sit a year. Beane comments made it sound like they have a diet plan for him. 
 

They aren’t benching Bates, and nor should they. 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

Dawkins - McGovern - Morse - Torrence - Turnstile 

 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Beane also said there is a chance we could see Cy at RT, but he’s going to begin inside. 

[In Summary]

  On 4/29/2023 at 7:17 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

Dawkins - McGovern - Morse - Torrence - Brown

Quess    - Boettger    - Bates  - Edwards -  Doyle

 

That right side could be REAL NASTY if those dudes get their stuff together and develop.

 

Or does Bates or Edwards have a chance of starting over Torrence, and McGovern plays RG?

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Good question. I think pass protection skills win the day but who knows?

[DCbillsfan]

  On 4/29/2023 at 7:50 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Big Cy, IMO, will sit a year. Beane comments made it sound like they have a diet plan for him. 
 

They aren’t benching Bates, and nor should they. 

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You may be right but I really dislike the idea of another 2nd rd pick being redshirted.  

[The Jokeman]

  On 4/29/2023 at 7:47 PM, Don Otreply said:

It seems like you don’t like much the last two days, 😂

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Especially if it deals with Torrence. 😜

[Warriorspikes51]

  On 4/29/2023 at 7:50 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Big Cy, IMO, will sit a year. Beane comments made it sound like they have a diet plan for him. 
 

They aren’t benching Bates, and nor should they. 

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No they didn’t.  Beane mentioned he expected the transition to be like it was for him when he came from Louisana to Florida. He was on the 3rd team….then immediately became starter before the season

[QLBillsFan]

  On 4/29/2023 at 7:47 PM, 947 said:

Boettger was never going to make the team in 2023. They did him right by keeping him on the team to rehab, but he is not in the plans. He was already a replacement level OG at best, and is now coming off the absolute worst injury possible for an NFL player.

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Vet practice squad if not scooped up 

[Big Blitz]

McGovern was insurance - he isn’t starting after the Torrence pick.  I was never a fan of the signing.  I guess a pass pro upgrade over Saffold.  
 

But this group needs NASTY and to RUN THE BALL IN THE RED ZONE:

 

 

 

Dawkins - Bates - Morse - Torrence - Brown, but the good version.  
 

 

McGovern 

Edwards

Mancz 

Ques 

Doyle

 

[Simon Says]

  On 4/29/2023 at 7:27 PM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

One of those 6 in bold will get cut or traded, my bet would be on Boettger as typically teams go with 5 interior and 4 tackles.  Or could they make a more shocking move and cut Morse?

 

Not 100% certain Torrence will start, could be Bates instead.  But if they were to cut Morse, then Torrence starts at guard and Bates at Center

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I doubt they cut Morse.

[DrDawkinstein]

  On 4/29/2023 at 8:13 PM, Big Blitz said:

McGovern was insurance - he isn’t starting after the Torrence pick.  I was never a fan of the signing.  I guess a pass pro upgrade over Saffold.  
 

But this group needs NASTY and to RUN THE BALL IN THE RED ZONE:

 

 

 

Dawkins - Bates - Morse - Torrence - Brown, but the good version.  
 

 

McGovern 

Edwards

Mancz 

Ques 

Doyle

 

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We arent paying McGovern $7M+/yr to not start. He's pretty much a sure thing.

[Big Blitz]

  On 4/29/2023 at 8:25 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

 

We arent paying McGovern $7M+/yr to not start. He's pretty much a sure thing.

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Meh - the rookie drafted in RD 2 makes that salary easy to push down the depth chart to the role he probably belongs at and that’s backup Guard and a solid one.   
 

 

 

Bills' signing of Connor McGovern named among worst free agency decisions in NFL

 

Here’s PFN’s full breakdown on McGovern’s deal he signed with the Bills:

 

Had the Bills signed the other Connor McGovern interior offensive lineman, the one they saw twice a year for three years, the $7.5 million average annual value would make sense. He’s played at that level for a number of years now and still has some great football ahead of him.

 

But the Connor McGovern that played for the Cowboys has not been quite as successful. McGovern was a capable pass blocker last year and played that role at an above-replacement level, but he has always been an enormous liability as a run blocker. Not only that, his success as a pass protector was largely limited to one season, allowing defenders to quickly win off the snap and forcing the quarterback to scramble or get rid of the ball quickly.

 

McGovern has only had one season as a full-time starter, playing as an injury replacement in other years. In that role, he’s spectacular, and teams could do a lot worse than having him as a depth player along the interior. But as a starter making starting money, it’s a big issue — especially for a team that wants to improve its running game.

 

McGovern’s contract incurs a $3.6 million cap hit in Year 1, which is in line with his value. But after that, it explodes to a functionally guaranteed second-year cap hit of $7.5 million and hits $8 million in Year 3 — an unguaranteed year but a difficult one to cut because he would incur $4 million in dead cap space.

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/31/buffalo-bills-connor-mcgovern-worst-signings-nfl/

[Doc]

Where did OCT play in college?  Or more precisely, where did he play and dominate in college?

Edited April 29, 2023 by Doc

[DrDawkinstein]

  On 4/29/2023 at 8:30 PM, Doc said:

Where did OCT play in college?

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Mainly right guard. He kicked out to OT for a little bit in a pinch, but is really a RG. They moved him to LG for a couple of bad plays in the Senior Bowl, and then moved him right back to RG where he dominated.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

  On 4/29/2023 at 7:17 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

Dawkins - McGovern - Morse - Torrence - Brown

Quess    - Boettger    - Bates  - Edwards -  Doyle

 

That right side could be REAL NASTY if those dudes get their stuff together and develop.

 

Or does Bates or Edwards have a chance of starting over Torrence, and McGovern plays RG?

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Yeah, Brown is nasty like a revolving door 

[purple haze]

  On 4/29/2023 at 7:33 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

I'm interested to see if they would consider Edwards a RT option. He played there in college and a bit in LA his rookie year. 

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Bates can play OT.

[DrDawkinstein]

  On 4/29/2023 at 8:35 PM, purple haze said:

Bates can play OT.

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That is a worst case scenario. Like a Tommy Doyle playing on a blown ACL, team getting cooked alive, worst case scenario.