RD 5, Pick 150: WR Justin Shorter, Florida

[Coach Tuesday]

10 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Easley was like that.   Hardest worker type.  Very high character.   The difference between those guys and good NFL WR's is the details.   If you don't have them at a smaller size you don't even get a chance at the NFL.   But the big guys sometimes do.   Kumerow would shred practices but in game situations it was clear that his technique and hands weren't good enough to beat NFL CB's.   Easley actually almost looked like he was going to make the jump to a starting NFL WR(which was admittedly a lower bar in the NFL back then)  but then had a broken leg that cooked his career if I recall correctly.       

Yup.  Easley was a stud on Teams and was making some noise to factor into the offense but suffered a brutal injury that basically ended his career (something like ruptured patella).

[Patrick Duffy]

I never really get too excited over any draft pick no matter what round the selection 1st-7th. That being said, this kid is built like a sh*t brickhouse at 6'4" and first thing that comes to my mind is how simular he looks to those DK Metcalf photos couple years back.

 

Would be amazing if he turns out the same way Metcalf has....but anyways, he certainly has the build.

[Warcodered]

 

[Warriorspikes51]

4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

Calling it now!  Mix of Prime Josh Gordon, DK Metcalf, T.O. and Megatron 😎

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Patrick Duffy said:

I never really get too excited over any draft pick no matter what round the selection 1st-7th. That being said, this kid is built like a sh*t brickhouse at 6'4" and first thing that comes to my mind is how simular he looks to those DK Metcalf photos couple years back.

 

Would be amazing if he turns out the same way Metcalf has....but anyways, he certainly has the build.

 

A ***** brickhouse?  That's not a compliment.

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, Doc said:

 

A ***** brickhouse?  That's not a compliment.

Lol, well depends how you perceive it I guess

[Augie]

22 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Calling it now!  Mix of Prime Josh Gordon, DK Metcalf, T.O. and Megatron 😎

 

We probably shouldn’t fit him for his Gold Jacket yet, he’s still a growing boy and may put some muscle on during his career.   

 

 

12 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

A ***** brickhouse?  That's not a compliment.

 

Ill, uh……..take your word for it! 

 

 

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Edited May 2, 2023 by Augie

[2003Contenders]

Caught Beane on Moving the Chains on Sirius yesterday. He mentioned also that one of the things they also liked about Shorter was his playing with Richardson in Florida, which led to a lot of broken plays. BB thinks this experience will be an asset to Josh on extended plays.

[Doc]

17 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:

Lol, well depends how you perceive it I guess

 

7 minutes ago, Augie said:

Ill, uh……..take your word for it!

 

It's supposed to be "brick shithouse," which (I guess is supposed to mean) a good thing.  A *****(ty) brickhouse would be a bad thing.

[Warriorspikes51]

12 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

We probably shouldn’t fit him for his Gold Jacket yet, he’s still a growing boy and may put some muscle on during his career.   

 

 

 

Ill, uh……..take your word for it! 

 

 

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Have you seen him? He's already more muscular than most NFL WR's 

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

 

It's supposed to be "brick shithouse," which (I guess is supposed to mean) a good thing.  A *****(ty) brickhouse would be a bad thing.

 

Unless you lived in a ****tier brick house, I suppose. Some realtor will take that listing, regardless. 

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Have you seen him? He's already more muscular than most NFL WR's 

 

I knew I should have put a sarcasm warning or a smiley face or something. That one’s on me. 

[Shaw66]

It would be an amazing thing if the whole league, including the Bills, have just plain missed on Shorter.   I mean, if he actually realized the potential we can imagine, he would be one of the big misses of all time, like Larry Fitzgerald falling to the fifth round.   That's all pretty unlikely.   But what the Bills have going for them is that they figured out, and several other teams didn't, that the path from uncertain college performance to stud was short and clear for Josh Allen.  Maybe McDermott and Dorsey will unlock the door to the high ceiling.  

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:

It would be an amazing thing if the whole league, including the Bills, have just plain missed on Shorter.   I mean, if he actually realized the potential we can imagine, he would be one of the big misses of all time, like Larry Fitzgerald falling to the fifth round.   That's all pretty unlikely.   But what the Bills have going for them is that they figured out, and several other teams didn't, that the path from uncertain college performance to stud was short and clear for Josh Allen.  Maybe McDermott and Dorsey will unlock the door to the high ceiling.  

 

Anything is possible.  Again, Diggs was a 5th rounder.

[Shaw66]

5 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Anything is possible.  Again, Diggs was a 5th rounder.

Diggs is a good point.   Every team could see what he had, and every team convinced themselves that he was not likely to become a star worthy of a first-round grade.   That comes in part from the evolving nature of the game, the mix of players and coaches the guy plays with, and the player's ability to use his unique skill set to carve out a place for himself.   Personnel evaluation is an art, not a science. 

 

I saw Adrian Dantley play in high school, and great as he was, I thought he'd struggle in college.   Then he showed everyone that he could play in college, despite being an undersized forward.   It was obvious to me that talent or not, he wasn't going to play in the NBA.   I was so wrong.   If you have the right skillset and the right people around you, you can do it.   

 

We can hope.  

[Patrick Duffy]

27 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

 

It's supposed to be "brick shithouse," which (I guess is supposed to mean) a good thing.  A *****(ty) brickhouse would be a bad thing.

Ah yes....Lol I got the wording backwards. 

[stevewin]

3 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I saw Adrian Dantley play in high school, and great as he was, I thought he'd struggle in college.   

I saw Adrian Dantley play as a rookie for the Braves - and he was great  

[MrEpsYtown]

3 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

Diggs is a good point.   Every team could see what he had, and every team convinced themselves that he was not likely to become a star worthy of a first-round grade.   That comes in part from the evolving nature of the game, the mix of players and coaches the guy plays with, and the player's ability to use his unique skill set to carve out a place for himself.   Personnel evaluation is an art, not a science. 

 

I saw Adrian Dantley play in high school, and great as he was, I thought he'd struggle in college.   Then he showed everyone that he could play in college, despite being an undersized forward.   It was obvious to me that talent or not, he wasn't going to play in the NBA.   I was so wrong.   If you have the right skillset and the right people around you, you can do it.   

 

We can hope.  

 

3 minutes ago, stevewin said:

I saw Adrian Dantley play as a rookie for the Braves - and he was great  

Man you guys are old! Lol j/k

[Shaw66]

2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Man you guys are old! Lol j/k

I've been waiting for an "Adrian who?"

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

It would be an amazing thing if the whole league, including the Bills, have just plain missed on Shorter.   I mean, if he actually realized the potential we can imagine, he would be one of the big misses of all time, like Larry Fitzgerald falling to the fifth round.   That's all pretty unlikely.   But what the Bills have going for them is that they figured out, and several other teams didn't, that the path from uncertain college performance to stud was short and clear for Josh Allen.  Maybe McDermott and Dorsey will unlock the door to the high ceiling.  

Larry Fitzgerald was the 3rd overall pick shaw

[Shaw66]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Larry Fitzgerald was the 3rd overall pick shaw

I know.  That's the point.   

 

Think about what people are saying about this guy.   He has a lot of characteristics of great receivers - size, speed, hands.   My point was that the talk here is as though Shorter could become a true star receiver, and I agree that he has many of the characteristics, but imagining him becoming that great is the mirror image of imagining FItzgerald lasting to the fifth round.   I don't see it.  He may have a future in the league, maybe even a long future, because there's always an occasional star who appears out of the late rounds.  Much more likely that he proves to be useful for a few years and then gets replaced.    

 

Think about Shakir.   Maybe, maybe, he's a ten-year player in the league.  That would be nice.   More likely that he plays five, has some pretty effective seasons, then gets replaced by another fifth round guy.