RD 5, Pick 150: WR Justin Shorter, Florida

[gjv]

I think Beane drafts better in round five than in rounds 2-4. Would not be surprised if Shorter turns out to be the "diamond in the rough" for the Bills in the 2023 draft. Shorter was behind WR studs at Penn State, and consequently never saw the field. And at Florida, he had a revolving door at QB, OC, and Head Coach.

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Chad Hall is no longer with us.  Not meaning he’s dead, he’s with another team.

He swims with the fishes to me

[NewEra]

I really like his interview.  Sharp kid.  

[Matt_In_NH]

From reading this thread some.  Shorter sucks but is awesome at the same time.  He has awful hands at the same time as having good hands. The pick is a reach and is good value.  

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, NewEra said:

I really like his interview.  Sharp kid.  

Yes. BDEnergy 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

Looks like he has good speed, but doesn’t seem to create separation.  Good blocker.  Probably great at jump balls.  I like it.  Why not take a gamble on a physical specimen in the 5th round?

[BruceVilanch]

1 hour ago, DaggersEOD said:

This says he has GREAT hands. 5.5% drop rate (good 🤷‍♂️) but fans who watch the Gators are saying he drops a lot. Which is correct?

They're in Gainesville, I imagine they're blackout drunk by the second quarter

[SDS]

1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Looks like he has good speed, but doesn’t seem to create separation.  Good blocker.  Probably great at jump balls.  I like it.  Why not take a gamble on a physical specimen in the 5th round?

that was my wife’s philosophy.

4 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

From reading this thread some.  Shorter sucks but is awesome at the same time.  He has awful hands at the same time as having good hands. The pick is a reach and is good value.  

he might have a good left hand and a poor right hand.

[ndirish1978]

7 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Smallest LB Corp in league, poor pass rush and overall poor front 7.  They won't get off the field on 3rd down and they are slow.  They haven't upgraded anywhere on defense.  Not physical enough.

I'm not confident in the front 7 outside of Milano at all.  They are not physical at all

 

 

Agreed, but I prefer to think of it as a glass half full and I believe the lack of a pick on the Dline means we're extending Daquan and signing a vet DE like Mathis, Ngokue, Houston or Clark. From comments made in the draft press conferences I think they want to run 2 similarly sized LBs this year to help disguise coverages. I think the improvement on D this year if any is going to come from McDermott's attacking scheme vs Frazier's scheme. 

 

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

Trying to get Josh some big targets, and still the typical pissing and moaning… on a 5th round pick. Who cares that Beane’s success rate, including drafting WR, has been better than average in the late rounds? 

 

Who thought last year Benford was going to step in right away and not only start, but play well enough to not be a weak link on a 13-3 NFL team?

 

The teams Beane built should’ve at the very least went to back to back AFC Championships, likely a Lombardi (two years ago), and last year went 13-3, in the midst of what seemed like non-stop injuries… Trust the process, it’s worked thus far.  It’s not like this is a franchise backing into the playoffs year after year, they are elite, they are knocking on the door, it’s just a matter of time before they kick it in.

 

[Ralonzo]

1 hour ago, CapeBreton said:

His measurables are very similar to Josh Gordon, just sayin! 

 

It'll take a bag of coke to give him some short area burst if that's the case.

[BADOLBILZ]

29 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

 

Yeah he really ate up Jarrick Bernard-Converse on that play.   JBC is a draftable talent.

[Matt_In_NH]

1 minute ago, SDS said:

he might have a good left hand and a poor right hand.

Or the opposite. Sometimes you only need one hand.  But not in catching footballs

[Meatloaf63]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah looks like he lets the ball come to his body instead of highpointing the catch🤦‍♂️

[die hard bills fan]

I like this pick

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

https://twitter.com/BruceExclusive/status/1652401217920745474?t=XP6rs2wxeYHTSDhO-4P8-g&s=19

[Dablitzkrieg]

3 hours ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

 

Agreed, but I prefer to think of it as a glass half full and I believe the lack of a pick on the Dline means we're extending Daquan and signing a vet DE like Mathis, Ngokue, Houston or Clark. From comments made in the draft press conferences I think they want to run 2 similarly sized LBs this year to help disguise coverages. I think the improvement on D this year if any is going to come from McDermott's attacking scheme vs Frazier's scheme. 

 

I hope you're right.  I really think they are going to struggle against the run and get pushed around against physical teams like the Bengals

Edited April 29, 2023 by Dablitzkrieg

[Warriorspikes51]

The Bills two pass catchers selected in the 2023 NFL Draft (Justin Shorter and Dalton Kincaid) COMBINED to drop three passes over the course of the last two years.

[DuckyBoys]

was really the only viable receiving threat on the gators  Why not take a shot He's big/fast and has lot of upside

[Goin Breakdown]

2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

https://twitter.com/BruceExclusive/status/1652401217920745474?t=XP6rs2wxeYHTSDhO-4P8-g&s=19

Funny that there are a few that are saying he's got drop issues.