John from Riverside Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Augie said: I think my biggest concern with him is his weight. He dropped 17 lbs to get down to 330 LBS? That concerns me over time. Is he one of “those guys”? On the flip side, he doesn’t give up sacks and went all year without a penalty. That sounds like a disciplined guy, and that is encouraging. Let us hope this is a pick we are rejoicing over a decade from now. Actually, I was referring to the top-heavy wife 1 Quote
Augie Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Actually, I was referring to the top-heavy wife Oh, I was afraid to go to the ex. I fear what terrible things I might do wrong if I went down that road. Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Augie said: I think my biggest concern with him is his weight. He dropped 17 lbs to get down to 330 LBS? That concerns me over time. Is he one of “those guys”? Thankfully he's not "one of those guys." From "The Beast:" ... weighed over 420 pounds when he started high school and completely changed his nutrition and life habits to carry a comfortable weight... A massive but lean-muscled blocker Also it's pretty obvious from still photos and video that he's not fat. https://buffalowdown.com/2023/04/28/buffalo-bills-2023-nfl-draft-grade-ocyrus-torrence/ 2 2 Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 15 hours ago, Augie said: I think my biggest concern with him is his weight. He dropped 17 lbs to get down to 330 LBS? That concerns me over time. Is he one of “those guys”? On the flip side, he doesn’t give up sacks and went all year without a penalty. That sounds like a disciplined guy, and that is encouraging. Let us hope this is a pick we are rejoicing over a decade from now. At guard, I don't mind so much about him being a player with weight issues. At tackle is where you run into problems with those guys, like Becton and Cody Ford for example. Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: At guard, I don't mind so much about him being a player with weight issues. At tackle is where you run into problems with those guys, like Becton and Cody Ford for example. You don’t want it at guard either. Or d-line. Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You don’t want it at guard either. Or d-line. It's not ideal obviously Quote
Prospector Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You don’t want it at guard either. Or d-line. But it's a good thing that's not what we have here. 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 18 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: Thankfully he's not "one of those guys." From "The Beast:" ... weighed over 420 pounds when he started high school and completely changed his nutrition and life habits to carry a comfortable weight... A massive but lean-muscled blocker Also it's pretty obvious from still photos and video that he's not fat. https://buffalowdown.com/2023/04/28/buffalo-bills-2023-nfl-draft-grade-ocyrus-torrence/ Thank you for pointing that out. He had a weight problem whenever he was a kid and has spent years working on it. Which means that he has work ethic and then you’re about to get him with professional strength and conditioning trainers for an NFL team Except for the fact that you’re not gonna see this guy, downfield, throwing defensive backs, left and right on screens there’s literally nothing not to like about this guy Stud 1 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 9 hours ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: At guard, I don't mind so much about him being a player with weight issues. At tackle is where you run into problems with those guys, like Becton and Cody Ford for example. We have a RT that can’t keep weight on! Quote
NickelCity Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 10:09 PM, Sierra Foothills said: weighed over 420 pounds when he started high school Holy crap is that true? Quote
TOboy Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 51 minutes ago, NickelCity said: Holy crap is that true? It is. Got himself into shape to play football. Quote
Augie Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 10 hours ago, TOboy said: It is. Got himself into shape to play football. Would you happen to have any photos of him sitting at a middle school desk in 8th grade as a 400 pounder? That might require some special engineering. I still concerns me a bit if he can blow up like that, but I hope he stays disciplined for football, and for life. You don’t want to be one of the people on a scooter in the grocery store (oh, the irony!) while still in his 20’s. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Augie said: Would you happen to have any photos of him sitting at a middle school desk in 8th grade as a 400 pounder? That might require some special engineering. I still concerns me a bit if he can blow up like that, but I hope he stays disciplined for football, and for life. You don’t want to be one of the people on a scooter in the grocery store (oh, the irony!) while still in his 20’s. Torrence tells the story of how the high school football coach constantly asked him to go out for football. He went on to say he had low self-esteem but finally relented and tried out. When he saw himself transitioning into the man he is now he said it was a life changing moment. He thanks and praises his HS coach. I see a young man with a lot of inner strength. 3 2 Quote
RenoNVBillsfan Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) Just watched the ‘23 Senior Bowl again, this time focusing exclusively on right OG, Torrence. Gents….the guy completely stone-walled ever DT he faced. It wasn’t even close. Not only did Torrence completely stand-up every DT but he ACTIVELY sought out other DL to shift over to once he had his primary target contained. His QB didn’t even get a sniff from a DL or pass rusher that was on Torrence’s side. In fact, there seemed to be a noticeable drop off when Torrence rotated out. He also had nimble feet in the pocket and even helped pull when the running game called upon. I watched every snap and came away thoroughly impressed with his dominance…vs draft likely talent. He may not start right away but WOW! Matter of time. Edited May 7, 2023 by RenoNVBillsfan 9 1 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 Sorry if already posted. I like this breakdown of Torrence I found on YouTube: I don't think it's crazy to imagine him as the starter in week 1. He already has NFL size and power, just needs a little technique refinement. 4 Quote
Snappysnackcakes Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 Agreed. Based on the overall performance of last year’s OL, it won’t take long for him to seize the moment. I sure hope he’s the answer at RG for the next 15 years. 3 Quote
Augie Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, RenoNVBillsfan said: Just watched the ‘23 Senior Bowl again, this time focusing exclusively on right OG, Torrence. Gents….the guy completely stone-walled ever DT he faced. It wasn’t even close. Not only did Torrence completely stand-up every DT but he ACTIVELY sought out other DL to shift over to once he had his primary target contained. His QB didn’t even get a sniff from a DL or pass rusher that was on Torrence’s side. In fact, there seemed to be a noticeable drop off when Torrence rotated out. He also had nimble feet in the pocket and even helped pull when the running game called upon. I watched every snap and came away thoroughly impressed with his dominance…vs draft likely talent. He may not start right away but WOW! Matter of time. Where did you find that game? Did you have it recorded? Is it on YouTube or some other source? I’d enjoy taking a look. Thanks for the encouraging report. I hope he’s a day one starter and stays there a decade plus. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 Remember when EJ dominated the Senior Bowl? good times… 1 Quote
Cheesus Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, Augie said: Where did you find that game? Did you have it recorded? Is it on YouTube or some other source? I’d enjoy taking a look. Thanks for the encouraging report. I hope he’s a day one starter and stays there a decade plus. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, Augie said: Where did you find that game? Did you have it recorded? Is it on YouTube or some other source? I’d enjoy taking a look. Thanks for the encouraging report. I hope he’s a day one starter and stays there a decade plus. I was gonna post it but someone beat me to it 1 Quote
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