Good,the Ok,and the Ugly from day 1 of the draft

[PatsFanNH]

Ok here are a few thoughts on the draft:

 

Good (Amazing):

 

Eagles — That D front is going to be scary AGAIN next year, I almost feel bad for Dak facing that front twice. They got an absolute STEAL with Carter at 9.

 

Ok:(above average)

 

Bills - I like Kinkaid but I believe he has back issues? Doesn’t mean he won’t be amazing but could make his career a lot shorter than it should be.

Pats — I was hoping for a WR, but getting IMO the top CB in the draft while also sticking it to the Jets… made this pick awesome for me. My biggest concern is how young he is and how soon (if ever) he hits his potential. 
 

Ugly:

 

Washington — They took a CB who is vastly undersized and will take time IMO to make an impact. Made worse because they chose him over at least 2 better prospect in Gonzalez, and Porter. I’d have broken my TV if that was my team. (Like I did last year w an unknown guard pick)

 

Will Levi’s — rumored be top 2 pick and doesn’t get picked at all in the first round.  By far an ugly and sad day for him.

 

lastly Confused:

 

Jets — You just got Rogers and you know it’s a 2 year window and yet you still don’t draft a WR for the guy? Instead you get another D lineman.. makes little sense.. Rogers is older he needs playmakers around him. (Imagine if Seattle had gotten Rogers instead.)

 

let me know who your thoughts are

 

Edited April 28, 2023 by PatsFanNH

[dorquemada]

I think both the Bills and Pats got guys that will contribute immediately

 

Outside of that it's pretty tough to call the ball after day 1

[NewEra]

The Steelers trading up for Jones was my second favorite moment of the night. 
 

That was epic

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

God,the Ok,and the Ugly from day 1 of the draft

 

He's just Belichick.  He just thinks he's God. 🤨

 

 

[Process]

Pats and Bills got great value I agree. 

 

Jets not getting an OT or WR is a win for the rest of the AFCE. 

 

Lions biggest loser by far. Mind boggling use of two prime picks. 

[LABILLBACKER]

Campbell at 18 made no sense?

[Reed83HOF]

Just now, PatsFanNH said:

Ok here are a few thoughts on the draft:

 

Good (Amazing):

 

Eagles — That D front is going to be scary AGAIN next year, I almost feel bad for Dak facing that front twice. They got an absolute STEAL with Carter at 9.

 

Ok:(above average)

 

Bills - I like Kinkaid but I believe he has back issues? Doesn’t mean he won’t be amazing but could make his career a lot shorter than it should be.

Pats — I was hoping for a WR, but getting IMO the top CB in the draft while also sticking it to the Jets… made this pick awesome for me. My biggest concern is how young he is and how soon (if ever) he hits his potential. 
 

Ugly:

 

Washington — They took a CB who is vastly undersized and will take time IMO to make an impact. Made worse because they chose him over at least 2 better prospect in Gonzalez, and Porter. I’d have broken my TV if that was my team. (Like I did last year w an unknown guard pick)

 

Will Levi’s — rumored be top 2 pick and doesn’t get picked at all in the first round.  By far an ugly and sad day for him.

 

lastly Confused:

 

Jets — You just got Rogers and you know it’s a 2 year window and yet you still don’t draft a WR for the guy? Instead you get another D lineman.. makes little sense.. Rogers is older he needs playmakers around him. (Imagine if Seattle had gotten Rogers instead.)

 

let me know who your thoughts are

 

Saleh is a DC at heart, so building a dominant D line like in SF, is part of his DNA. I liked McDonald's and as a project, at 15 his was drafted on potential, but that was a big reach imo.

 

For the Ugly, you forgot Detroit who is building a team like it is 1985...

 

Kincaid had a broken vertabre, so provided that healed up, that shouldn't be a long term issue. I get he has elite hands and is viewed more as a slot WR, hard to see us in 12 personnel that much, unless there is a huge shift in the offensive philosophy, which obviously could happen. I know beane called it 11.5 personnel, at the end of the day it's still 2 TEs....

 

I am hoping that since we are seeming to have him play more as a WR, his transition will be quicker as the focus on his coaching and development early on will be reading the defense and adjusting his route based on the read and making the same read and adjustments Allen is. 

 

Pats took who they needed to. But man that roster is in bad bad shape

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Campbell at 18 made no sense?

Or the rb at 12 or whatever other pick they had....way to go back in time 40 years

[John from Riverside]

The ugly is Belichick

He is not a handsome man

[NewEra]

I think your point on the jets not getting a WR is a bit overstated. 

 

Breece Hall, Garrett Wilson, Corey Davis, Allen Lazard and Mecole Hardman is a nice core imo.  Conklin, Uzomah and Ruckert @ TE is a very underrated group of TEs.  
 

now, mac Jones on the other hand… that poor guy got hosed.  Again.  
 

Gonzalez was a great pick.  Mac is screwed.  Maybe you can draft Caleb or Drake next year!

 

didn’t Gronk have a back issue in college?

[BattlinBill]

I was pretty happy with Miami's first round pick....

[BuffaloBillyG]

Ugly:

 

The Detroit Lions. 

 

Gibbs and Campbell are good players. But there were better on both sides of the ball when they picked at positions they needed. Their defense was HORRIBLE last year and Gibbs, while a good play was a luxury pick they couldn't afford to make. 

 

Chicago Bears: RT only at that spot is a *WOOF* pick for me. 

 

Good:

 

The Eagles. Man they love that Georgia defense, don't they? 

 

 

 

The "meh"

Houston Texans: They got their guy 1 pick after drafting the guy they were "supposed to" pick. Love the aggressive attitude...even if it feels like they gave up a bit much to accomplish that. Those picks they sent should all be high picks next year too that could have been better used to surround their shiney new QB with weapons and build around him. 

 

 

[Saratoga Leo]

15 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

 

lastly Confused:

 

Jets — You just got Rogers and you know it’s a 2 year window and yet you still don’t draft a WR for the guy? Instead you get another D lineman.. makes little sense.. Rogers is older he needs playmakers around him. (Imagine if Seattle had gotten Rogers instead.)

 

let me know who your thoughts are

 

What if the Jets trade for DHop?

[JerseyBills]

Agreed

Philly got the steal of the draft.

Buf and NE likely get immediate impact players

[PatsFanNH]

4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I think your point on the jets not getting a WR is a bit overstated. 

 

Breece Hall, Garrett Wilson, Corey Davis, Allen Lazard and Mecole Hardman is a nice core imo.  Conklin, Uzomah and Ruckert @ TE is a very underrated group of TEs.  
 

now, mac Jones on the other hand… that poor guy got hosed.  Again.  
 

Gonzalez was a great pick.  Mac is screwed.  Maybe you can draft Caleb or Drake next year!

 

didn’t Gronk have a back issue in college?

Gronk did have a back issue in college. It is also why his career was a lot shorter. That’s why I said KinKaid MAY have a shorter career than he should. Mind you Gronk needed to learn to go down some times instead of fighting for an additional yard or two. 

IMO they are just OK just as the Pats WR room is Meh as well.. no one special in that group.. I can’t remember a time Rogers was good where he didn’t have an elite pass catcher with him..  I mean Wilson, rightfully got trashed last year but that O had many other issues like guys blocking air and NO ONE getting open. 
 

I wanted a WR, but CB was also a huge need as well.  Hopefully they get a pass catcher on day 2, I wouldn’t mind Meyers or Washington… at TE IF Hyatt isn’t available. If they get Gonzalez then Hyatt in the first 2 rounds I’d dance a jig.. although I also like the size of Tillman(?) from Tennessee as well.

[John from Riverside]

14 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I think your point on the jets not getting a WR is a bit overstated. 

 

Breece Hall, Garrett Wilson, Corey Davis, Allen Lazard and Mecole Hardman is a nice core imo.  Conklin, Uzomah and Ruckert @ TE is a very underrated group of TEs.  
 

now, mac Jones on the other hand… that poor guy got hosed.  Again.  
 

Gonzalez was a great pick.  Mac is screwed.  Maybe you can draft Caleb or Drake next year!

 

didn’t Gronk have a back issue in college?

I was going to ask that question I thought that Gronk head back issues while he was in college

[PatsFanNH]

8 minutes ago, Saratoga Leo said:

What if the Jets trade for DHop?

DHop looks uninterested and washed up IMO. He would also be a lot more expensive than going with a promising rookie.

[SCBills]

What the Pats did to the Jets was nothing short of beautiful.  
 

They were set on Broderick Jones and then panning to their war room after the Pats d***ed them over was like watching viewing hours at a funeral home. 
 

They can act like they wanted Will McDonald, but you don’t spend 9:45 of your 10 minutes looking panicked and depressed before you turn the pick in if that was your guy. 

[NewEra]

14 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Gronk did have a back issue in college. It is also why his career was a lot shorter. That’s why I said KinKaid MAY have a shorter career than he should. Mind you Gronk needed to learn to go down some times instead of fighting for an additional yard or two. 

IMO they are just OK just as the Pats WR room is Meh as well.. no one special in that group.. I can’t remember a time Rogers was good where he didn’t have an elite pass catcher with him..  I mean Wilson, rightfully got trashed last year but that O had many other issues like guys blocking air and NO ONE getting open. 
 

I wanted a WR, but CB was also a huge need as well.  Hopefully they get a pass catcher on day 2, I wouldn’t mind Meyers or Washington… at TE IF Hyatt isn’t available. If they get Gonzalez then Hyatt in the first 2 rounds I’d dance a jig.. although I also like the size of Tillman(?) from Tennessee as well.

Garrett Wilson was getting open.  He’s a rising superstar imo.  Lazard and Rodgers are comfortable together. Corey Davis playing with the first good QB in his career. hardman is a great niche player that can break a game open if schemed properly.  Hall looks to be a top back.  
 

I think rodgers may have more than he’s ever had as far as playmakers. What he’s missing are 2 OTs.  Not playmakers 

17 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

DHop looks uninterested and washed up IMO. He would also be a lot more expensive than going with a promising rookie.

Just tank. Get a QB and be relevant again

[dollars 2 donuts]

57 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Ok here are a few thoughts on the draft:

 

Good (Amazing):

 

Eagles — That D front is going to be scary AGAIN next year, I almost feel bad for Dak facing that front twice. They got an absolute STEAL with Carter at 9.

 

Ok:(above average)

 

Bills - I like Kinkaid but I believe he has back issues? Doesn’t mean he won’t be amazing but could make his career a lot shorter than it should be.

Pats — I was hoping for a WR, but getting IMO the top CB in the draft while also sticking it to the Jets… made this pick awesome for me. My biggest concern is how young he is and how soon (if ever) he hits his potential. 
 

Ugly:

 

Washington — They took a CB who is vastly undersized and will take time IMO to make an impact. Made worse because they chose him over at least 2 better prospect in Gonzalez, and Porter. I’d have broken my TV if that was my team. (Like I did last year w an unknown guard pick)

 

Will Levi’s — rumored be top 2 pick and doesn’t get picked at all in the first round.  By far an ugly and sad day for him.

 

lastly Confused:

 

Jets — You just got Rogers and you know it’s a 2 year window and yet you still don’t draft a WR for the guy? Instead you get another D lineman.. makes little sense.. Rogers is older he needs playmakers around him. (Imagine if Seattle had gotten Rogers instead.)

 

let me know who your thoughts are

 

 

 

PF, I agree.  The CB pick was solid and necessary in this division.

 

Even when they are great they are never sexy, but CB matters so much in this league.

 

 

 

Edited April 28, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts

[BarleyNY]

46 minutes ago, NewEra said:

The Steelers trading up for Jones was my second favorite moment of the night. 
 

That was epic

The Steelers punked the Jest. Payback for Derrelle Revis. Took them 16 years, but they did it.