Did we just land our Cooper Kupp?

[Governor]

12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I think part of Bills fan’s trouble with Kincaid is that the franchise has never had a Tight End of any real caliber. It’s pretty much been a nonexistent position on the offensive roster. But…can you imagine if Josh had a guy that he can depend on to get open and move the chains without having to scramble around or force the ball into a tough downfield or tight sideline window? I love the pick! Make the completion, move the chains, repeat. 

Bite your tongue! Chandler was a beast.

[Jerome007]

Kupp is so big for a WR. I guess that's where the analogy comes from. Hey, if Kincaid can get the triple crown too - and Superbowl win and MVP - good.

[Mynamemike]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

So did Gronk.

 

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

So did Gronk.

well aware that’s why it doesn’t concern me.  I’m looking at this as more of a wr pick than a te.  We don’t need him blocking, we need any him finding those soft spots and being a human vacuum and catching the ball in traffic which seems to be his strong suit.  I’m excited about the potential 

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, Governor said:

Bite your tongue! Chandler was a beast.

I had to look it up. Did you know that Knox already has more TD catches than Chandler did? And he’s played less games. In fact, Knox is second all time to Metzalaars but has played in 1/3 of the games as Pete ever did. Wild! 

[Jerome007]

2 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

We got our boy!! Uneal. I can't believe he was there still. One of the best players in the entire draft! Best pass catcher in entire draft was quoted about him. We just won the draft. Def no Dhop now.

Of course Dhop is a superstar but salary cap anyone? With Diggs, Knox, Davis and Harty (people forget him or what?) and Kincaid, the Bills are set for receivers... especially if they finally use Cook too. They have so many weapons, that I recall TDs by backup TEs and FB in the beginning of the season last year, what happened to that later on? Anyway, you can't cover them all.

 

And McGovern is quite an upgrade at pas protection too. I don't think the Bills will be a run heavy team ha ha. It's all pass heavy weapons. 

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

I had to look it up. Did you know that Knox already has more TD catches than Chandler did? And he’s played less games. In fact, Knox is second all time to Metzalaars but has played in 1/3 of the games as Pete ever did. Wild! 

 

Knox is quite good! I don't get some fans mad at him. Sure he didn't get thrown at enough, and yes he drops some, but overall he is a beast!

[EasternOHBillsFan]

18 minutes ago, Governor said:

Aaron Hernandez 2.0.

 

In what way? Geez

[Airseven]

Kincaid is already both Kelce and Kupp. That’s impressive!

[transient]

Was just watching highlights and thinking to myself that between Kincaid, Knox, Harris and Allen they’re going to dominate Kyle Brandt’s “angry runs” next season. Their potential for brutality should open up a lot of room for the rest of the offense.

[BrooklynBills]

The 1 to 1 comparison isn't there but I can see what you are getting at.

 

I think athletically they might actually be somewhat similar.  Kupp ran a 4.6 40 at 6'0 200lbs and while Kincaid didn't run in the draft process most have his 40 at 4.7.  Kupp obviously is a shiftier player and a more downfield threat.  Kincaid should be able to really target the middle of the field and the seam and he should be a killer on those underneath option routes.

[Jerome007]

13 minutes ago, Airseven said:

Kincaid is already both Kelce and Kupp. That’s impressive!

No pressure. No pressure at all ha ha.

[RiotAct]

58 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

So can we reopen the ertz thread?

nope, case closed as far as I’m concerned!

[Royale with Cheese]

I see him more of a Dallas Clark type.

[DapperCam]

50 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I think part of Bills fan’s trouble with Kincaid is that the franchise has never had a Tight End of any real caliber. It’s pretty much been a nonexistent position on the offensive roster. But…can you imagine if Josh had a guy that he can depend on to get open and move the chains without having to scramble around or force the ball into a tough downfield or tight sideline window? I love the pick! Make the completion, move the chains, repeat. 

This is Robert Royal slander

[BillsFanNC]

I like the analyst last night who said teams are shifting focus from gathering D players to stop Mahomes, because you can't, to getting O weapons to outscore them.

 

You need an elite QB yourself of course to take this approach and fortunately the Bills do.

 

Maximize the power of your best weapon in Josh

[Governor]

23 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

In what way? Geez

Minus the murders. Same skill set.

[LV Bills fan]

9 minutes ago, Governor said:

Minus the murders. Same skill set.

Hopefully he won’t be banging his QB either. 

[PrimeTime101]

Picture this... We set up in the base 12 formation.. Kincaid takes 4 steps to the right in the slot position... Then moments after that Knox does the same thing.  The OLB's now have their hands filled? What to do... who has what... Safeties have to worry about the middle of the field so maybe they take a step back... and then we hand it off to Cook for 10 yards..

 

THAT is what Kincaid and Knox on the field at the same time does for you.

 

Now picture this.. 

 

Kincaid lines up to the right slot... Knox on the Line. Davis being a very good WR blocker on the same side as Knox and Kincaid... OLB's and DB's are positioning themselves right to handle these guys appropriately and... SCREEN!... 7 plays later they line up the same way, and Kincaid runs a post, Knox has the blitz covered... 

 

You have to understand... this is not just what Kincaid can do for JA.. its what he does for the rest of the weapons as well...  It's going to be a whole new playbook.. we just changed the whole outlook of... having 4-5 WR out there and defenses knowing exactly what we are going to do....

[ganesh]

The same thought stuck me on seeing the video

[Big Turk]

IMO we have evolved into an offense now where no matter what a DC tries to do he will be wrong and he is going to have to decide how he wants to die. Quickly or slowly? deep balls over the top or death by a thousand cuts? Light boxes and we run the ball for 5-6 yards a clip or try and get to Allen before he gets rid of the ball and shut down his escape lanes?

 

I think we will see DCs slamming clipboards, head coaches throwing phones and defensive players shaking their heads at an all time high this year.

 

There are no good answers now for how to stop this offense. Only bad choices and worse choices for the DC on a given play. And Dorsey trying to get too cute.

Edited April 28, 2023 by Big Turk

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

I don’t see Kupp at all in Kincaid.

What do you see?