Pabstblueribbon Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Beas was also extremely "qb friendly" when the line broke down and Josh had to go backyard football mode and make something happen. The more I'm thinking about this pick the more I like it lol. Not to derail from the topic too much, but if Bean goes psycho mode and grabs that burner from TN as a development wr? We could be set for LAD (life after diggs). 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, MWK said: Misses: Star Trent Murphy Epenesa Ed Oliver at 9 Boogie Basham Spencer Brown Not doing anything significant at OL for a long time Zack Moss Trading for Hines and not using him Not having any WR's last season and signing Brown and Beasley Cody Ford Trading away Teller Dumping Hodgins for nothing to keep Jake Kumerow Tyler Kroft Frank Gore, Chris Ivory monstrosities Drafting 3 running backs in the top 3 rounds in 4 years Terrell Bernard special teamer in the third round Overpaying Dawson Knox Having McKenzie play way too much A bunch of minor misses in Free Agency (Quinton Jefferson, OJ Howard) Rodger Saffold Hits: Josh Allen (Obviously one of the greatest moves we have ever made) Diggs trade Gabe Davis in the 4th Dane Jackson in the 7th DaQuan Jones Edmunds Taron Johnson Mitch Morse Beasley Dawson Knox (in the draft) Tyler Bass Singletary (kind of) Minor hits in the draft (Harrison Phillips) This doesn't sound like the record of a top 10 GM to me. This is solidly a “glass half empty” take Quote
finn Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: I guess you can argue he's been underutilized, but not a whole lot. 17th in TE targets. 17th in TE receptions. Tied for 5th in TE TDs. 14th in TE yards. All this for a guy whose brother died during the season. Is it really that surprising that they started him slow? He had 27 targets in the first eight weeks, out of his total of 65. He had 20 catches out of 48 in his first eight games. Folks, none of this makes any less than total sense. Finn, "incompetent" is way way overstating it for Brown, who was recovering from back surgery, didn't have an offseason, and improved a lot as the season went along. But yeah, fair enough, he wasn't as good as we wanted and may well have needed more help sometimes than you'd want him to, and that may have affected the way they used Knox. Yes, you're right. I was venting my frustration to a degree after seeing Brown so often miss his block. It seemed that Allen's routine was to go back, dodge Brown's missed block, dodge Saffold's blown assignment, and only then get ready to throw. Your assessment is more sober and accurate. 2 Quote
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I mean, it’s all relative right whenever people talk about him not being a very good blocker they mean a very good blocker for a tight end. This guy will still totally maul a defensive back and be great chipping ends off the line and while he won’t heads up move a DE back in the run game regularly they aren’t going to collapse him regularly either Quote
phxbacker Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Wizard said: Initial reaction is...does Dorsey know how to use him? The only thing I didn't like was that Beane panicked and gave away a 4th. Did you see the look in the Dallas war room? Beane knew Dallas would take him, he had to jump them if he wanted Kincaid 1 Quote
papazoid Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 the comparison is about the SLOT position kincaid can highpoint the ball much higher than beasley.......and also block better with a significant weight advantage beasley needs to move along....he's embarrassing himself.....he's never playing for the bills again 1 1 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, MWK said: Misses: Star Trent Murphy Epenesa Ed Oliver at 9 Boogie Basham Spencer Brown Not doing anything significant at OL for a long time Zack Moss Trading for Hines and not using him Not having any WR's last season and signing Brown and Beasley Cody Ford Trading away Teller Dumping Hodgins for nothing to keep Jake Kumerow Tyler Kroft Frank Gore, Chris Ivory monstrosities Drafting 3 running backs in the top 3 rounds in 4 years Terrell Bernard special teamer in the third round Overpaying Dawson Knox Having McKenzie play way too much A bunch of minor misses in Free Agency (Quinton Jefferson, OJ Howard) Rodger Saffold Hits: Josh Allen (Obviously one of the greatest moves we have ever made) Diggs trade Gabe Davis in the 4th Dane Jackson in the 7th DaQuan Jones Edmunds Taron Johnson Mitch Morse Beasley Dawson Knox (in the draft) Tyler Bass Singletary (kind of) Minor hits in the draft (Harrison Phillips) This doesn't sound like the record of a top 10 GM to me. wow - you sir are the tool of the day. 2 1 1 1 Quote
BillsSbSoon Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, stlbills13 said: How do we feel if he had a season on par with Beasleys best season If that happens then the offense would be back to being pretty much unstoppable Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Just now, papazoid said: the comparison is about the SLOT position kincaid can highpoint the ball much higher than beasley.......and also block better with a significant weight advantage beasley needs to move along....he's embarrassing himself.....he's never playing for the bills again ??? Quote
boyst Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 27 minutes ago, Beast said: Heard on GR this morning that the last TE drafted in the 1st round to make an impact for the team drafting him was Marcedes Lewis in 2006. that is a concern of mine. and the second contracts to tight ends as they come of age are ludacris. it's nice to have a featured tight end but teams are better off dumpster diving to potentially find someone Quote
Nihilarian Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 1 minute ago, MWK said: Misses: Star Trent Murphy Epenesa Ed Oliver at 9 Boogie Basham Spencer Brown Not doing anything significant at OL for a long time Zack Moss Trading for Hines and not using him Not having any WR's last season and signing Brown and Beasley Cody Ford Trading away Teller Dumping Hodgins for nothing to keep Jake Kumerow Tyler Kroft Frank Gore, Chris Ivory monstrosities Drafting 3 running backs in the top 3 rounds in 4 years Terrell Bernard special teamer in the third round Overpaying Dawson Knox Having McKenzie play way too much A bunch of minor misses in Free Agency (Quinton Jefferson, OJ Howard) Rodger Saffold Hits: Josh Allen Diggs trade Gabe Davis in the 4th Dane Jackson in the 7th DaQuan Jones Edmunds Taron Johnson Mitch Morse Dawson Knox (in the draft) Tyler Bass Singletary (kind of) Minor hits in the draft (Harrison Phillips) This doesn't sound like the record of a top 10 GM to me. From 6-10 in 2018...to 10-6 in 2019...to 13-3 in 2020...to 11-6 in 2021...to 13-3 in 2022. This GM has built a team that has been on the verge of a Super Bowl for several years. Taken the AFC East crown three seasons in a row. Buffalo has one of the very best QBs, WRs, and defenses in the NFL. SI grades Brandon Beane as the very best GM in the league...think I'll side with their view on the subject! https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-gm-brandon-beane-rank-best 5 1 2 1 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Kincaid is a stud TE. Beane sprinted to the podium. This pick will be one of the all-time steals of any NFL draft. Kincaid was my dream but I thought no way - he is top 12 only because of the QB's that needed to be taken otherwise he's top 10. Best hand in the entire draft. This is our #2 boys. Just wait and see. 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Just now, Nihilarian said: From 6-10 in 2018...to 10-6 in 2019...to 13-3 in 2020...to 11-6 in 2021...to 13-3 in 2022. This GM has built a team that has been on the verge of a Super Bowl for several years. Taken the AFC East crown three seasons in a row. Buffalo has one of the very best QBs, WRs, and defenses in the NFL. SI grades Brandon Beane as the very best GM in the league...think I'll side with their view on the subject! https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-gm-brandon-beane-rank-best But but but his point about Tyler Kroft. You’re leaving that out. 3 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: From 6-10 in 2018...to 10-6 in 2019...to 13-3 in 2020...to 11-6 in 2021...to 13-3 in 2022. This GM has built a team that has been on the verge of a Super Bowl for several years. Taken the AFC East crown three seasons in a row. Buffalo has one of the very best QBs, WRs, and defenses in the NFL. SI grades Brandon Beane as the very best GM in the league...think I'll side with their view on the subject! https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-gm-brandon-beane-rank-best Bingo! You said it perfect. Taht dudes take is a troll joke. 1 Quote
aristocrat Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, boyst said: that is a concern of mine. and the second contracts to tight ends as they come of age are ludacris. it's nice to have a featured tight end but teams are better off dumpster diving to potentially find someone kyle Pitts had 1000 yards as a rookie 2 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 When Skip and PFF are on the Kincaid train, then you know you are on the wrong ride. Quote
Dopey Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, MWK said: Misses: Star Trent Murphy Epenesa Ed Oliver at 9 Boogie Basham Spencer Brown Not doing anything significant at OL for a long time Zack Moss Trading for Hines and not using him Not having any WR's last season and signing Brown and Beasley Cody Ford Trading away Teller Dumping Hodgins for nothing to keep Jake Kumerow Tyler Kroft Frank Gore, Chris Ivory monstrosities Drafting 3 running backs in the top 3 rounds in 4 years Terrell Bernard special teamer in the third round Overpaying Dawson Knox Having McKenzie play way too much A bunch of minor misses in Free Agency (Quinton Jefferson, OJ Howard) Rodger Saffold Hits: Josh Allen (Obviously one of the greatest moves we have ever made) Diggs trade Gabe Davis in the 4th Dane Jackson in the 7th DaQuan Jones Edmunds Taron Johnson Mitch Morse Beasley Dawson Knox (in the draft) Tyler Bass Singletary (kind of) Minor hits in the draft (Harrison Phillips) This doesn't sound like the record of a top 10 GM to me. Let us see your comparisons. Quote
Bruffalo Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: When Skip and PFF are on the Kincaid train, then you know you are on the wrong ride. You know what they say broken clocks and all that. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, MWK said: Misses: Star Trent Murphy Epenesa Ed Oliver at 9 Boogie Basham Spencer Brown Not doing anything significant at OL for a long time Zack Moss Trading for Hines and not using him Not having any WR's last season and signing Brown and Beasley Cody Ford Trading away Teller Dumping Hodgins for nothing to keep Jake Kumerow Tyler Kroft Frank Gore, Chris Ivory monstrosities Drafting 3 running backs in the top 3 rounds in 4 years Terrell Bernard special teamer in the third round Overpaying Dawson Knox Having McKenzie play way too much A bunch of minor misses in Free Agency (Quinton Jefferson, OJ Howard) Rodger Saffold Hits: Josh Allen (Obviously one of the greatest moves we have ever made) Diggs trade Gabe Davis in the 4th Dane Jackson in the 7th DaQuan Jones Edmunds Taron Johnson Mitch Morse Beasley Dawson Knox (in the draft) Tyler Bass Singletary (kind of) Minor hits in the draft (Harrison Phillips) This doesn't sound like the record of a top 10 GM to me. Do every GM with your same negative attitude and see how they hold up. You might find 2 maybe 3 that has done better. But you dont want that perspective, you wouldnt be able to complain. 3 1 Quote
CorkScrewHill Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Steve Smith Sr breaking down Kincaid before the draft 2 Quote
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