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RD 1, Pick 25: TE Dalton Kincaid, Utah


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Just now, IronMaidenBills said:

They could have taken Hall instead of Elam. Just like I wanted Woolen to be our CB in the same draft. I would rather have Hall/Woolen than Elam/Cook. I still stand by that. 

If Beane ever takes a RB in the first round he should be escorted out by security and locked up in a detention facility.  I'll pay for it if the county/state won't.

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7 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Incorrect take. Dallas almost certainly wanted Kincaid. It was a shrewd move, not panic.

 

Of course, it was almost certain.  Of the 4 TEs on the Cowboys they have a grand total of 36 NFL catches.

Jake Ferguson has 19 of them and is the best they have on the team.

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Kincaid was the consensus #1 TE in this draft it seemed. And a consensus first round talent. 
 

But I wanted the TE that was the tallest, heaviest, had the biggest hands and longest arms in the draft while being just as fast. But that guy didn’t have the production. Not as fluid a route runner I guess despite the elite three cone time.

 

Kincaid has to be that 80-100 receptions per year TE for us. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

Unless there's a change in philosophy on offense, I don't get it.  

 

He's going to get less playing time and targets than Knox.  This helps us how, exactly?

 

 

They are different styles of player.  Kincaid is a jumbo WR.  Very athletic, smooth, good hands.  He’s a matchup problem.    There’s nothing to complain about with him.   It helps us because he’s a legit weapon in a passing offense.   

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11 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:


none of that makes Kincaid the #2 TE. It’s most likely a 1A 1B situation. Maybe Knox gets 10% more snaps and Kincaid gets 20% more targets. 

 

Bottom line was that Kincaid is not supplanting Knox as the starting TE though, which was what I was objecting to that you had originally said.  Beane even said, Kincaid is not being brought here to block, he is gonna be used more like a receiver than a TE while Knox remains as the taking the traditional snaps at TE.  They won't really be playing the same position is the point.  

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We got the best pass catcher in the draft.

 

The 3rd down Maven

 

Owner of all balls 50/50

 

Emperor of the End Zone 

 

The guy that’s open when he’s not.  
 

People need to stop viewing him a a tight end.  He’s a weapon.  A guy that Josh can trust when he needs to move the chains. 
 

Now it’s on Dorsey to make it work. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Bottom line was that Kincaid is not supplanting Knox as the starting TE though, which was what I was objecting to that you had originally said.  Beane even said, Kincaid is not being brought here to block, he is gonna be used more like a receiver than a TE while Knox remains as the taking the traditional snaps at TE.  They won't really be playing the same position is the point.  

 

My point is to expect Kincaid to have more targets and receptions than Knox. IMO, that makes Kincaid at least a 1a. and not a #2 which was the point I was objecting to in the original post I quoted. We drafted Kincaid to be a 80-100 reception TE. That is a #1 TE in my book. Knox's career highs in receptions are 48 and 49. 

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4 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

im a mlb guy and offensive line upgrade guy. not sure why everyone wants wr so desperately. trade the farm for hopkins? really? i think shakir will take a massive leap this year. guy just seems to have a good sense of his surroundings and angles. we got our speed guy from NO and think gabe will be better. hope he will get better.

 

so overall if white can get back to form our cbs are solid. our rb are not cream of the crop but more then enough for pass happy team. dl could use upgrades but daquan is a beast and oliver in contract year along with a healthy phillips and von. are we really in need besides replenishing guys who will move on?

 

o line is the biggest issue. lack of a running game due to oline. time for josh o line. mlb is glaring. thats it. those are are biggest needs. 

 

the difference between our team not going to the sb was one guy. dorsey. he gets creative and actually uses our weopons,new or old, games arent all on josh where hes constantly pressing we could already go toe to toe with the best.

 

a new te. a position that is rare to be impactful from....especially first year is a nice luxury item. if hes full time slot then ok but we need to get the positions i stated. i dont care how.

He can be half time slot.  Half time TE.  The guy catches everything.  

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3 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

im a mlb guy and offensive line upgrade guy. not sure why everyone wants wr so desperately. trade the farm for hopkins? really? i think shakir will take a massive leap this year. guy just seems to have a good sense of his surroundings and angles. we got our speed guy from NO and think gabe will be better. hope he will get better.

 

so overall if white can get back to form our cbs are solid. our rb are not cream of the crop but more then enough for pass happy team. dl could use upgrades but daquan is a beast and oliver in contract year along with a healthy phillips and von. are we really in need besides replenishing guys who will move on?

 

o line is the biggest issue. lack of a running game due to oline. time for josh o line. mlb is glaring. thats it. those are are biggest needs. 

 

the difference between our team not going to the sb was one guy. dorsey. he gets creative and actually uses our weopons,new or old, games arent all on josh where hes constantly pressing we could already go toe to toe with the best.

 

a new te. a position that is rare to be impactful from....especially first year is a nice luxury item. if hes full time slot then ok but we need to get the positions i stated. i dont care how.


I get those wants and needs absolutely. One of things you need to realize at mlb though is: they haven’t given up on Bernard, even if a lot of us have forgotten about him since he didn’t play. They have their bets on him hedged with bringing back dodson and klein but I think they think Bernard has a real chance to develop into something. They will absolutely give him a chance and I wouldn’t expect an early rd (day 2) pick for LB. 
 

More offensive line help? Absolutely throw it on me. They can take 3 OLs in a row if the value’s there go ahead.

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8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Bottom line was that Kincaid is not supplanting Knox as the starting TE though, which was what I was objecting to that you had originally said.  Beane even said, Kincaid is not being brought here to block, he is gonna be used more like a receiver than a TE while Knox remains as the taking the traditional snaps at TE.  They won't really be playing the same position is the point.  

It doesn’t really matter what people want to label him.  The guy makes plays and is the best pure pass catcher in this draft imo.  He has size, huge mitts, great body control and timing, smooth hips and great route running + rac.  
 

There aren’t any WRs in this draft that bring what he does to the table. TE2, TE1, X, Y, Z.  Doesn’t matter.  Stud

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