Orlando Buffalo Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 2/12/2025 at 3:48 PM, daz28 said: How is a voucher that much different than paying off student debt? Why do people who homeschool pay school taxes? Any anti-socialist here? Are you being serious or is this just trolling- because if you have thought about this for more than about 10 minutes and think they are the same you are truly showing an incredible lack of intelligence. I will explain but I am actually hoping this is trolling
B-Man Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Education Department Slashes $600 Million In Funding For ‘Social Justice Activism’ Teacher Training by Brecan F. Thies The U.S. Department of Education announced Monday it cut over $600 million in grants spent on training teachers in “social justice activism,” critical race theory, and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) ideology. The grants were used to fund institutions and nonprofits involved in training teachers on concepts like “anti-racism” and claims about white privilege and white supremacy. The grants also helped fund discriminatory staff recruiting strategies that targeted candidates based on their race. “It’s hard to overstate how radical these teacher trainings are — we are talking about forcing teachers to talk about their race at work, asking educators to ‘take personal and institutional responsibility for systemic inequities,’ promoting abolitionist teaching practices and defining equity as equal outcomes,” Erika Sanzi, director of outreach for Parents Defending Education https://thefederalist.com/2025/02/18/education-department-slashes-600-million-in-funding-for-social-justice-activism-teacher-training/ .
B-Man Posted February 24 Posted February 24 MEGAN MCARDLE: Academia Finally Got Schooled: Universities, colleges took prestige and public support for granted. Now they are paying the price. The left, not the right, picked this fight. Too many institutions set themselves up as the “Resistance” to Trump and tried to make a lot of mainstream political opinions anathematic, while expecting to be protected from backlash by principles such as academic freedom that they were no longer honoring. This was politically naive and criminally stupid for institutions that rely so heavily on U.S. taxpayer support. . . . By presenting their expertise as part of a political fight, academics were not only squandering their credibility. They were asking to be treated like political adversaries. And in a real political fight, the ability to get your opponent’s journal article retracted is way less important than his ability to cut off your supply lines. This danger has been evident for years, yet when I asked academics if this was really wise, most were curiously oblivious to the risks. Though they complained about stingy state legislatures and meddling Republican politicians, many bizarrely took them as evidence that there was little cost to politicizing academia — essentially, “They’re already attacking us, so there’s no point in trying to placate them.” They did not seem to grasp how much worse it could get. Fundamentally, they took their prestige and public support for granted and seemed unable to imagine a world where the word “education” no longer conjured reverent deference among most of the population. Like children throwing rocks from an overpass, they felt protected by their elevated position, assuming their targets could do little but yell back. They weren’t expecting one of the drivers to get out of the car and grab a baseball bat from the trunk. It’s not like they weren’t warned. https://archive.is/qqfXh
B-Man Posted March 7 Posted March 7 Chuck Schumer’s Meltdown: Democrats Cling to the Department of Education Like It’s Their Woke Life Raft Schumer is a Democrat and the lie, so this should be no surprise. Local school districts receive only a small fraction of their funding from the federal government —an amount so negligible it would barely be missed if it disappeared. Instead, this money could be redistributed to the states, allowing them to allocate it to schools based on specific needs, such as areas with extreme poverty or a high percentage of students with learning differences. The real reason Democrats champion the Department of Education, however, is that it serves as a tool to promote their Leftist 'woke' agenda.
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 16 Posted March 16 This is where we are with too many students. It is against the law to use your phone at school, but the county makes it so we cant actually punish the kids until the 7th violation, making the law basically null. Secondly I requested of the 32 parents who sent their children to school with non school computers that they only allow them the school computer and not one complied, despite my telling them that kids can't be monitored on the other computers. If parents don't man up we are screwed. 1 1
B-Man Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) Rep Harriet Hageman “The Federal Department of Education spends it as a budget of about $280 billion a year. Less than 25% goes to educating our students. So where does the other $220 billion go? It goes to a bureaucracy, it goes to a consultant, and that consultant then donates money BACK TO DEMOCRATS, and then it goes to a different consultant, and then it goes to an NGO. I mean, IT IS MONEY LAUNDERING and money churning at its absolute best.” “Is the DOGE Program targeted at these bureaucrats?” “Yes” Edited March 17 by B-Man 1
The Frankish Reich Posted March 17 Posted March 17 There wasn't always a Department of Education. It used to be within Health, Education, and Welfare. I think Carter suggested we create it and Congress did so. The idea was that something important - and who denies that education is important? - needs it's own federal department to signal that importance and to create its own internal lobby to ensure that it wasn't given short shrift in the budgetary process. The same kind of sentiment was behind the creation of the Department of Homeland Security after 9/11. I don't think anyone can look at DOE or even DHS and say that creation of a new bureaucracy helped achieve substantive goals. So I have no problem with eliminating these departments and giving their essential functions back to other departments or agencies. But (there's always a but): let's do it an an orderly manner. It can be done. Has anyone really tried? No. "Hand it over to DOGE" is an admission of defeat. If the new Republican agenda is popular, then do like Reagan and convince the American people that these goals are important and Congress will follow.
JDHillFan Posted March 18 Posted March 18 6 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: I don't think anyone can look at DOE or even DHS and say that creation of a new bureaucracy helped achieve substantive goals. So I have no problem with eliminating these departments and giving their essential functions back to other departments or agencies. But (there's always a but): let's do it an an orderly manner. It can be done. Has anyone really tried? No. "Hand it over to DOGE" is an admission of defeat. If the new Republican agenda is popular, then do like Reagan and convince the American people that these goals are important and Congress will follow. Congress will follow? In the age of Trump? Zero chance of getting reform of this nature through the Murphy’s and Schiff’s of the senate. Which democrats will sign on to this sort of thing? Reagan never had a filibuster-proof majority but it was obviously a much more sane era. The parallel you have attempted to draw is a non-possibility.
BillsFanNC Posted Thursday at 12:07 PM Posted Thursday at 12:07 PM Who is impressed? Roundy for sure. Anyone else?
SectionC3 Posted Thursday at 07:43 PM Posted Thursday at 07:43 PM MAGA: Look at us! We’re the evidence that the Department of Education has failed! We’re a horde of semi-toothless morons who don’t understand tariffs and are taking down the economy because of it! In some respects it’s hard to argue the point.
sherpa Posted Thursday at 08:07 PM Posted Thursday at 08:07 PM The elimination of the Federal Dept of Education has been suggested since the mid 80's. Turning this issue back to the states and local govs has always seemed to make the most sense, as it is with most issues. 2
Doc Posted Thursday at 09:05 PM Posted Thursday at 09:05 PM Education of America is horrible. Something needs to change.
The Frankish Reich Posted Thursday at 09:23 PM Posted Thursday at 09:23 PM Look at who Trump invited to his Department of Education Memorial Service: - Ron DeSantis, governor of the state bragging about how its ACT scores show a whopping 25% of graduates hitting the national Math benchmark - Mike DWine, governor of a state that says hold my beer, Ron, we at 28% - the Governor of Oklahoma (I have no idea of the name) where 15% meet the standard! These folks have obviously discovered the Secret Red State Sauce that will allow us to compete with China!
aristocrat Posted Thursday at 09:52 PM Posted Thursday at 09:52 PM 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: MAGA: Look at us! We’re the evidence that the Department of Education has failed! We’re a horde of semi-toothless morons who don’t understand tariffs and are taking down the economy because of it! In some respects it’s hard to argue the point. Pretty good evidence here
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