Tommy Callahan Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pokebball said: If the taxpayers in the community want the funding to follow the kiddo, it follows the kiddo. Most state constitutions require educating the kiddos and doesn't dictate how. Metrics and outcomes clearly show that kiddos are educated better in charter schools. And it's not even close. Are you most interested in better outcomes or not? Shh. only the rich should be able to choose to send their kids to performing schools. In this state we flood underperforming schools with more grants and funding. but doesn't equate to results.
Pokebball Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Chris farley said: Shh. only the rich should be able to choose to send their kids to performing schools. In this state we flood underperforming schools with more grants and funding. but doesn't equate to results. Charter schools in my state get less funding than public schools and perform better. All kiddos have access to that better education. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Pokebball said: Charter schools in my state get less funding than public schools and perform better. All kiddos have access to that better education. up here the ones already in control fight the charters at every turn. And I was being sarcastic. would be nice to see that choice be available to more.
Pokebball Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Most poor districts fail their students for a few reasons. A couple. People in poverty, the middle class, and the wealthy "think" differently. Most school curriculums are designed by teachers and administrators with a middle class mindset. If you're from a poor family where survival is day to day, education and the future are not priorities. I think education is actually a priority to poor families. Their needs are different, presenting different challenges. One example...transportation needs are different. Poor families struggle getting their kiddos to/from school and/or other educational opportunities. If the parents are working or don't have access to another vehicle, many opportunities are limited. Address the transportation challenges and those kiddos (and their parents) would love to participate. 3 minutes ago, Chris farley said: up here the ones already in control fight the charters at every turn. And I was being sarcastic. would be nice to see that choice be available to more. And why the fight? Those in the public school system are selfishly protecting their interests, not what's best for the kiddos. They are protecting their salaries, their lavish facilities and infrastructures, etc. 1 1
SoCal Deek Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Charter schools in my state get less funding than public schools and perform better. All kiddos have access to that better education. Charter schools are public schools 2
JaCrispy Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Charter schools are public schools Why can’t public schools perform like charter schools, if they are both public? 2
SoCal Deek Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Nope. It's just that you get what you pay for. Always, everywhere. You think poor school district public schools perform as rich districts? C'mon wake up and smell the reality. What we're watching unfold is a class war. History apparently was not taught well to some. Dude….I live in California and know WAY MORE about public education than you’d ever hope to. All schools are funded at the same base level per student with additional funding going to those in LESSER socio economic areas. Just now, JaCrispy said: Why can’t public schools perform like charter schools, if they are both public? Okay… a little help here for everyone. Charter Schools are public schools. They are granted a “charter” to run independently of the local school district. They therefore have less central administration costs and tend to attract both students and teachers that are likewise inclined. They can also expel students for a variety of reasons thus sending them back to the local district public school. Make sense? 2
SoCal Deek Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 I’d also like to add that in California, and possibly elsewhere, charter schools are at a facility DISadvantage. They cannot pass a construction bond as they don’t generally have control of their property tax base. So they often are housed in woefully inadequate modular buildings or even church basements. 1
Doc Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Just homeschool or send them to a fundamentalist school. problem solved. And in the same vein, if you think the US needs to be fundamentally transformed, leave and go to a country of your choosing. 2
SoCal Deek Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 Just now, Doc said: And in the same vein, if you think the US needs to be fundamentally transformed, leave and go to a country of your choosing. He’s already said that he’s fleeing to Portugal right after he’s finished making a total mess of Virginia. 😉 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Dude….I live in California and know WAY MORE about public education than you’d ever hope to. All schools are funded at the same base level per student with additional funding going to those in LESSER socio economic areas. Okay… a little help here for everyone. Charter Schools are public schools. They are granted a “charter” to run independently of the local school district. They therefore have less central administration costs and tend to attract both students and teachers that are likewise inclined. They can also expel students for a variety of reasons thus sending them back to the local district public school. Make sense? Really Mr expert. This is why people in red states are stupid. and the R party loves em... https://teaching-certification.com/teaching/education-spending-by-state/ Edited September 4, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 @SoCal Deek. Then there's this from the census bureau giving the School Districts within a state spending the most. Perhaps Cali is special cuz it's so progressive. Whata u think, genius? https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023/public-school-spending.html#:~:text=Of the 100 largest school,District in Georgia (%2418%2C492)%2C
Tommy Callahan Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?chort=1&sub=MAT&sj=&sfj=NP&st=MN&year=2022R3 https://www.alecreportcard.org/state/ https://www.learner.com/blog/states-with-highest-sat-scores Cost does not equate to quality or results. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: He’s already said that he’s fleeing to Portugal right after he’s finished making a total mess of Virginia. 😉 Fleeing. Sure. We're renting a condo at one the nice resorts in my link this winter. Trying it on for size just in case. I'll bet there were plenty of Europeans that wished they'd done the same in the early 40's and late 30's...but you be you. maybe you'll make commandant., 1
Tommy Callahan Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Fleeing. Sure. We're renting a condo at one the nice resorts in my link this winter. Trying it on for size just in case. I'll bet there were plenty of Europeans that wished they'd done the same in the early 40's and late 30's...but you be you. maybe you'll make commandant., Actually, it was Argentina and around 45.
Pokebball Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Charter schools are public schools https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2019/02/02/charter-schools-are-not-public-schools/
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pokebball said: They are protecting their salaries, their lavish facilities and infrastructures, etc. Sure, because everyone knows that public school teachers earn a fortune. Especially in red states where education is highly valued. Now supposed architects that design Frank Lloyd Wright style schools in Cali probably do quite well... 8 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Actually, it was Argentina and around 45. from your heritage? I'll mark you down as a "yes" for civil war. Good luck with that. Drilling down to the truth. Edited September 4, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
Tommy Callahan Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Sure, because everyone knows that public school teachers earn a fortune. Especially in red states where education is highly valued. Now supposed architects that design Frank Lloyd Wright style schools in Cali probably do quite well... from your heritage? that's when the eugenic nazis lost and some fled to Argentina. Not so much portugal but nice story. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Chris farley said: that's when the eugenic nazis lost and some fled to Argentina. Not so much portugal but nice story. Can you point out the characters representing your relatives?
Tommy Callahan Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Can you point out the characters representing your relatives? DERP Sicilian/Scott/Egyptian here. EM-123 Paternal Haplogroup. try again. I'm the kind you eugenics folk hate. 1
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