Education in America

[SectionC3]

  On 4/25/2023 at 11:47 PM, Doc said:

 

Spending more money to reduce standards.  Brilliant.

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Solid point.  If this keeps up, then soon enough we'll be cranking out physicians who believe that HCQ and Ivermectin are effective treatments for COVID. 

[Doc]

  On 4/26/2023 at 1:37 AM, SectionC3 said:

Solid point.  If this keeps up, then soon enough we'll be cranking out physicians who believe that HCQ and Ivermectin are effective treatments for COVID. 

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As opposed to those who championed the truly dangerous and ineffective remdesivir?  Stay in that 3rd chair.

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[SectionC3]

  On 4/26/2023 at 1:53 AM, Doc said:

 

As opposed to those who championed the truly dangerous and ineffective remdesivir?  Stay in that 3rd chair.

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Is this what MAGA calls gaslighting?  You and I are both concerned about our education system.  I'm worried that continued dilution of our educational standards and processes will result in the licensing of physicians who believe in hoaxes such as the utility of HCQ and Ivermectin in combating COVID.  

 

If memory serves, and heaven knows I don't have the best memory, you are a physician who believed (and, perhaps, believes) in the utility of those COVID-inefficacious drugs.  Rather than contest that point, you--and forgive me, maybe I have this wrong--appear to be gaslighting by referring to a different issue that nobody else has raised.  

 

Sad.  

[Big Blitz]

  On 4/26/2023 at 3:02 AM, SectionC3 said:

Is this what MAGA calls gaslighting?  You and I are both concerned about our education system.  I'm worried that continued dilution of our educational standards and processes will result in the licensing of physicians who believe in hoaxes such as the utility of HCQ and Ivermectin in combating COVID.  
 

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But not that they were terrified to lose their license if they didn’t “follow the science” on all things masks, lock downs, Covid origins, vaccine side effects, and actual data.  

 

[Big Blitz]

  On 4/25/2023 at 8:28 PM, redtail hawk said:

The only talented people that go into public education these days are idealists.  The teaching profession is still undervalued and now under attack.  And you wonder why results are worsening and so many educators are progressive.  Compassion and idealism are not characteristics of the vast majority of MAGA's, not to mention that fluency in subjects like calculus and chemistry are as rare as hens teeth among the group.

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We’re not the ones banning calculus Red Book:

 

 

You people either have no clue or just truly hope everyone is as ignorant as you are.  

  On 4/25/2023 at 10:05 PM, Andy1 said:

Content in textbooks has always been an issue. When I went to school, they never taught about the massacre at Black Wall Street in Oklahoma or a whole bunch of other uncomfortable truths in our history. Heck, in Catholic school, Jesus was always a white guy. 
 

Teaching and healthcare are two fields where instead of bitching about it, go submit an employment application. Both fields can certainly use the help. It’s easy to complain but much, much harder to do the work.

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What’s more likely - Public education teaching the accurate parade of horribles of communism or Hollywood producing movies critical of China?  
 

 

Answer:  Neither are likely.  But yes let’s teach 10 year olds America is this evil place that had evil founders and racists everywhere.   

[Joe Ferguson forever]

  On 4/26/2023 at 4:54 AM, Big Blitz said:

 

We’re not the ones banning calculus Red Book:

 

 

You people either have no clue or just truly hope everyone is as ignorant as you are.  

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it's a proposal under debate.  And it's stoopid.  There are stupid people on both sides.  Don't see this becoming policy.  Let's wait and see.

 

https://marketbrief.edweek.org/marketplace-k-12/california-pushes-release-math-framework-2023-long-fight/

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[Orlando Buffalo]

  On 4/26/2023 at 4:59 AM, redtail hawk said:

it's a proposal under debate.  And it's stoopid.  There are stupid people on both sides.  Don't see this becoming policy.  Let's wait and see.

 

https://marketbrief.edweek.org/marketplace-k-12/california-pushes-release-math-framework-2023-long-fight/

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Where you are incorrect is that this has already started to happen:

https://sfstandard.com/education/controversy-rages-as-california-follows-sfs-lead-with-new-approach-to-teaching-math/

 

The reason this concept of slowing everyone down is so appalling to me is that in each class I have some high achieving minorites. It literally is destroying their path to achievement. If we did this with sports we have 12 year olds still hitting off the tees.

[Doc]

  On 4/26/2023 at 3:02 AM, SectionC3 said:

Is this what MAGA calls gaslighting?  You and I are both concerned about our education system.  I'm worried that continued dilution of our educational standards and processes will result in the licensing of physicians who believe in hoaxes such as the utility of HCQ and Ivermectin in combating COVID.  

 

If memory serves, and heaven knows I don't have the best memory, you are a physician who believed (and, perhaps, believes) in the utility of those COVID-inefficacious drugs.  Rather than contest that point, you--and forgive me, maybe I have this wrong--appear to be gaslighting by referring to a different issue that nobody else has raised.  

 

Sad.  

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No surprise given the lack of brains you possess.

[Andy1]

  On 4/26/2023 at 4:54 AM, Big Blitz said:

But yes let’s teach 10 year olds America is this evil place that had evil founders and racists everywhere.   

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Teaching the whole truth does not mean America is an evil place. It just means that we are a nation founded on ideals that we haven’t always lived up to in the actions of those who came before us. Working towards achieving those ideals is an ongoing process. It’s what makes America exceptional.

[Tommy Callahan]

  On 4/26/2023 at 11:44 AM, Andy1 said:

Teaching the whole truth does not mean America is an evil place. It just means that we are a nation founded on ideals that we haven’t always lived up to in the actions of those who came before us. Working towards achieving those ideals is an ongoing process. It’s what makes America exceptional.

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The entire truth would be something.  kinda complex for 10 year olds.

 

its seems to be what people choose they believe is the truth.  the 1619 project?  has some points, also has entire parts that were blown up by actual historians. 

 

Imagine if we celebrated Independence Day November 25.  And years later cause the British didn't leave NY till 1783.    but that would be crazy talk.

 

When do we teach kids who Claudette Colvin was and why Rosa Parks was promoted for the civil rights movement.  Cause that would kind of be CRT and the entire truth. but again doesn't seem like 1960's American sociology is standard course work for elementary age kids

 

Do we start teaching about Hopewell and pre clovis with the land bridge story?

 

True Native history prior to European arrival?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

  On 4/25/2023 at 9:29 PM, BillsFanNC said:

Belongs here...

 

 

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he looks and sounds like the kind of doc I'd refer you to to remove a grapefruit sized tumor from your brain.  To be fair he has good reviews as a nephrologist.  Thankfully, I'm not on dialysis....

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[BillsFanNC]

 

[Big Blitz]

  On 4/26/2023 at 7:33 PM, B-Man said:

 

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Omg

 

 

[BillStime]

Listen to this POS - the face of Bonnie and Big Ditz in one:

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

 

[SectionC3]

  On 4/26/2023 at 1:00 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I like to think of it as they are teaching them how to speak moron. 

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They should take a field trip to a MAGA rally.  Much more effective. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

  On 4/27/2023 at 11:22 AM, SectionC3 said:

They should take a field trip to a MAGA rally.  Much more effective. 

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if you have first hand knowledge they practice woke word substitution at those, sure that works too. 

[SectionC3]

  On 4/27/2023 at 12:02 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

if you have first hand knowledge they practice woke word substitution at those, sure that works too. 

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I haven't been.  I don't think I'd fit in.  I have all of my teeth, I have a job, and I'm not morbidly obese.  I also don't blame everyone else for all of my self-inflicted problems (diabetes, stupidity, poor credit, obesity, bullet holes in the side of my double-wide, etc.), so a MAGA rally is not the place for me.  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

  On 4/27/2023 at 12:21 PM, SectionC3 said:

I haven't been.  I don't think I'd fit in.  I have all of my teeth, I have a job, and I'm not morbidly obese.  I also don't blame everyone else for all of my self-inflicted problems (diabetes, stupidity, poor credit, obesity, bullet holes in the side of my double-wide, etc.), so a MAGA rally is not the place for me.  

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At least you recognize your diabetes stupidity poor credit obesity, poor curb appeal are self inflicted. That the fist step to breaking your dependency on the government. Realizing they don’t need to control your life. 

[Doc]

You could go to a BLM rally.  Lots of self-inflicted problems there...