TSW Mock Draft 3.0 - Completed

[BarleyNY]

33 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

So do we assume the jets give up their first rounder for Rogers? 

I sincerely doubt they have to give up their first. Rodgers just eliminated most of GB’s leverage. 

[Virgil]

52 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

So do we assume the jets give up their first rounder for Rogers? 

No.  We assume it happens day 2 or later.   

[aristocrat]

48 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

I sincerely doubt they have to give up their first. Rodgers just eliminated most of GB’s leverage. 

The jets can’t run it back with Wilson now. The packers have the leverage. There are other teams that would trade for him as well 

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

The jets can’t run it back with Wilson now. The packers have the leverage. There are other teams that would trade for him as well 

 

Both teams have plenty of leverage. Packers cant NOT move him at this point either. Hence why they have been at a stalemate.

[BarleyNY]

23 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

The jets can’t run it back with Wilson now. The packers have the leverage. There are other teams that would trade for him as well 

Rodgers said he’ll play for the Jets or retire. What other team would trade for him under those circumstances? It’s over. He won the stand-off. 

[GunnerBill]

Here now guys. Sorry been sitting on an interview panel all day. Have a trade offer to consider. Will revert ASAP. 

[DrDawkinstein]

37 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Rodgers said he’ll play for the Jets or retire. What other team would trade for him under those circumstances? It’s over. He won the stand-off. 

 

That's news to me. Not necassarily doubting it, but I hadnt heard him state that so clearly. If so, then the Jets have absolutely zero leverage, and GB can demand anything they want. The sticking point before was if GB doesn't move him, there's no reason for Rodgers to not show up and collect his $35M, and $50M fully guaranteed each year for the next 3 seasons.

[BarleyNY]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

That's news to me. Not necassarily doubting it, but I hadnt heard him state that so clearly. If so, then the Jets have absolutely zero leverage, and GB can demand anything they want. The sticking point before was if GB doesn't move him, there's no reason for Rodgers to not show up and collect his $35M, and $50M fully guaranteed each year for the next 3 seasons.

 

That makes sense. Here’s a LINK to an article about it. I actually thought it was a statement by his agent, but it’s a rumor that this is what he told his agent. So I’ll back off of my stance too. IF this is true, then GB has no leverage. If not, then they still have some. 

[mannc]

5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

 

That makes sense. Here’s a LINK to an article about it. I actually thought it was a statement by his agent, but it’s a rumor that this is what he told his agent. So I’ll back off of my stance too. IF this is true, then GB has no leverage. If not, then they still have some. 

As long as Green Bay has Rodgers under contract, they have plenty of leverage.  And they absolutely can extract at least pick number 13 from the Jests...my guess is that they are holding out for additional picks, as well.  The Jets aren't rolling with Wilson again in 2023 and I doubt they want to use pick 13 on the fourth or fifth best QB in this mediocre class...

[GunnerBill]

With the 5th pick of the 2023 Virgil mock draft (version 3.0), the Seattle Seahawks select:

 

Jalen Carter, Defensive Tackle, Georgia

 

Full disclosure, if he was here the Seahawks were taking Anthony Richardson. Once he wasn't we considered an opportunity to move back but were not interested in acquiring more picks in this draft, we wanted picks to move up next year for Geno's replacement. The other team wasn't interested in giving up 2024 capital so we stayed put and picked the best football player in the draft. Carter might have off the field concerns but I've got Pete freaking Carroll as my Head Coach and nobody does a better job of channelling a wayward soul into a darn good football player than Pete. Defensive Tackle is a big need too. Once we were picking at this spot it was a no brainer. 

 

@NewEra and the knee cap biting Detroit Lions are on the clock. 

Edited April 24, 2023 by GunnerBill

[NewEra]

We tried to trade up one spot for Carter but the price of picks in next years draft were too steep considering that Jared Goff is still our starter.  

With the 6th pick, the Detroit Lions select -Devon Witherspoon, CB, Illinois.  
 

We have a clear need at corner and love what Witherspoon brings to the table.  Intelligence, ferocity, confidence, man ability. He’s a true lockdown corner in our opinion.  Add that to being one of the best CB run defenders we’ve ever seen…. This kid is special.  
 

@turftoeand the raiders are on the clock.
 

 

 

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by NewEra

[NeverOutNick]

38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

With the 5th pick of the 2023 Virgil mock draft (version 3.0), the Seattle Seahawks select:

 

Jalen Carter, Defensive Tackle, Georgia

 

Full disclosure, if he was here the Seahawks were taking Anthony Richardson. Once he wasn't we considered an opportunity to move back but were not interested in acquiring more picks in this draft, we wanted picks to move up next year for Geno's replacement. The other team wasn't interested in giving up 2024 capital so we stayed put and picked the best football player in the draft. Carter might have off the field concerns but I've got Pete freaking Carroll as my Head Coach and nobody does a better job of channelling a wayward soul into a darn good football player than Pete. Defensive Tackle is a big need too. Once we were picking at this spot it was a no brainer. 

 

@NewEra and the knee cap biting Detroit Lions are on the clock. 

100% agree that Richardson feels like the pick for Seattle if he is there

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

As long as Green Bay has Rodgers under contract, they have plenty of leverage.  And they absolutely can extract at least pick number 13 from the Jests...my guess is that they are holding out for additional picks, as well.  The Jets aren't rolling with Wilson again in 2023 and I doubt they want to use pick 13 on the fourth or fifth best QB in this mediocre class...

Let’s see how that plays out. Rodgers has a huge contract and is likely a one year rental. At most he’s a two year rental for wherever he goes. And he’s coming off a down season (for him). GB can posture about waiting until the pay date on Rodger’s bonus, but I don’t see how they can take the risk of having him at mandatory OTAs next month. If he gets injured they could wind up having to pay the whole $59.5M he’s owed this season.

 

I could see a 2nd round pick this year and a conditional pick next depending on Rodger’s/Jets’ performance - and whether Rodgers plays in 2024. So a 2024 first might be on the table if the right conditions get met. Also there could be a flip of 13 & 15, 13 for a second back or something like that, but I don’t see 13 straight up happening. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, BarleyNY said:

Let’s see how that plays out. Rodgers has a huge contract and is likely a one year rental. At most he’s a two year rental for wherever he goes. And he’s coming off a down season (for him). GB can posture about waiting until the pay date on Rodger’s bonus, but I don’t see how they can take the risk of having him at mandatory OTAs next month. If he gets injured they could wind up having to pay the whole $59.5M he’s owed this season.

 

I could see a 2nd round pick this year and a conditional pick next depending on Rodger’s/Jets’ performance - and whether Rodgers plays in 2024. So a 2024 first might be on the table if the right conditions get met. Also there could be a flip of 13 & 15, 13 for a second back or something like that, but I don’t see 13 straight up happening. 

 

The flip to #13.... to get closer to Skoronski.... is definitely one to look out for if the Jets won't trade away a 1st altogether. Flip 13 for 15, and get one of the Jets #2s plus a conditional pick next year that starts a 3, becomes a 2 if they make the playoffs and a 1 if they make the Superbowl.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

 

That makes sense. Here’s a LINK to an article about it. I actually thought it was a statement by his agent, but it’s a rumor that this is what he told his agent. So I’ll back off of my stance too. IF this is true, then GB has no leverage. If not, then they still have some. 

 

That's why I was saying both teams have leverage. The Jets have sold this move already and MUST get him. And GB is looking to move on from Rogers and his cap hit and MUST move him. It's down to whoever blinks first. Right now, I believe that cap hit being on GB's books is stopping them from making other moves that they want to make. That is probably the biggest incentive across both teams to get the deal done.

[MrEpsYtown]

Lets get this thing moving guys. Virgil not here to move it along. 

[CNYfan]

It has been 4 hours for @turftoe

Edited April 24, 2023 by CNYfan

[NewEra]

22 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

It has been 4 hours for @turftoe

Sorry @turftoe

Virgil is out of commission atm-  

 

With the 7th pick, the Las Vegas Raiders select-  Will Levis QB, Kentucky.

 

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/teams/2023/las-vegas-raiders

consensus according to math is Levis.  Slimmy G is too slim and is a one year rental if they’d like him to be.  They aren’t going anywhere this year regardless of who they pick.  Might as well roll the dice on the only position that really matters.  He has the physical tools.  
 

@TOboy and the falcons are on the clock.

 

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by NewEra

[TOboy]

With the 8th pick in the 2023 draft, the Atlanta Falcons are proud to select Tyree Wilson DE Texas Tech University. 
 

With young skill players on offense already, and the QB’s we’d targeted already selected the Falcons look to solidify the d line with a high ceiling pass rusher. 
 

@inaugural balls and the Chicago Bears are on the clock. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Lets get this thing moving guys. Virgil not here to move it along. 

Just sitting on his pile of money….