Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for president in 2024?

[ChiGoose]

20 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Do you think who he is running against has anything to do with it?

Sure. And the best possible case for RFK Jr is that he wins the Iowa and New Hampshire primaries solely because they won’t follow DNC rules and therefore Biden won’t run in them. 
 

Then, once the real votes start coming in, it’ll all be over for the tool of the right wing. 
 

I’d love to fix our election system so that we aren’t stuck in a rut of two parties, but that would require allowing the voters to have their voice to be heard. This is a no-no for the GOP, so we’re stuck with what we’ve got. 

[L Ron Burgundy]

22 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

You don’t have to agree with everything he says, but he is nowhere near a nut job…In fact, most of his stances in those issues come from other top scientists, in the field, who have signed on with what he says…

 

Using the term “nut job” is extremely hyperbolic…And typically people who attack like that do so because of ideological differences rather than a rational judgement of the points put forward imo…

 

As far as him being only popular because of his name, I argue that you are only partially correct…Recent polls have suggested that most Dems don’t Biden to run for reelection, and would rather have someone else represent the ticket…Furthermore, many liberal Dem voters are not happy with the woke policy direction of the current administration…Finally, Joe Biden is just not a likable guy with all his unpredictable angry outbursts…

 

On the other hand, RFK comes across as a likable guy, and not an angry politician trying to blow smoke up your rear end…He seems refreshingly non ideological, and genuinely interested in finding logical solutions to issues that shouldn’t even be problems in the first place…

Anti vax looney, thinks Fauci and Bill Gates are out to destroy the world.  He thinks the Cia might kill him if elected because they already killed other family members....

 

Wtf are you thinking?  Advocated ivermectin and hdc for covid...do you only like conspiracy peddling loons?  

 

Side note,  were this guy a normal centrist I'd love it.  Might be able to get out of this cycle where you need to wear a diaper to become president.   He'd probably win were he not a complete whackjob too.  

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

DEM loyalists have some salty tears over the fact that RFK is polling between 15-20% across the board and would pull the actual lefties from the party.

 

[Gregg]

15 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

DEM loyalists have some salty tears over the fact that RFK is polling between 15-20% across the board and would pull the actual lefties from the party.

 

 

A vote for Biden in 2024 is really a vote for Harris. What are the odds Joke is alive in 4 years. As bad as Biden is, Harris would be worse. She is as useful as a screen door on a submarine. President Ron DeSantis in 2024 please.

[Doc]

40 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

DEM loyalists have some salty tears over the fact that RFK is polling between 15-20% across the board and would pull the actual lefties from the party.

 

Yup.  Calling him a nutjob, considering the current state of the Dem party, is funny.

[Tommy Callahan]

Now the Twitter doctors are all showing pictures of him when he was young, next to current photos to argue he is on steroids.

 

Kinda ironic as the left promotes testosterone to anyone that wants it.

 

and at his age, its not uncommon for men to have low T and have testosterone prescribed.

 

But the twitter mob and the self identified doctors.

 

 

 

 

[Doc]

51 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Now the Twitter doctors are all showing pictures of him when he was young, next to current photos to argue he is on steroids.

 

Kinda ironic as the left promotes testosterone to anyone that wants it.

 

and at his age, its not uncommon for men to have low T and have testosterone prescribed.

 

But the twitter mob and the self identified doctors.

 

Even if he is, so what?  It's not like he's participating in competitive sports.  

[L Ron Burgundy]

1 hour ago, Chris farley said:

Now the Twitter doctors are all showing pictures of him when he was young, next to current photos to argue he is on steroids.

 

Kinda ironic as the left promotes testosterone to anyone that wants it.

 

and at his age, its not uncommon for men to have low T and have testosterone prescribed.

 

But the twitter mob and the self identified doctors.

 

 

 

 

Who cares?  I wouldn't care if he was on real juice.  

[HomeskillitMoorman]

I've seen RFK all over now on Rogan, Bill Maher, Jordan Peterson, etc...I actually like a lot of what he says.

 

I lean moderately liberal in my own philosophy but I hate both parties. This guy is as close to the center as a candidate that's out there though that I've seen. He's not trying to fit himself into the box of a corporate Democrat or Republican. I don't know if anyone can be trusted that has a decent shot at winning the Presidency...probably not...but maybe a guy like this could ease some of the tensions between the Left and Right and maybe we could actually get some things done. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

6 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

I've seen RFK all over now on Rogan, Bill Maher, Jordan Peterson, etc...I actually like a lot of what he says.

 

I lean moderately liberal in my own philosophy but I hate both parties. This guy is as close to the center as a candidate that's out there though that I've seen. He's not trying to fit himself into the box of a corporate Democrat or Republican. I don't know if anyone can be trusted that has a decent shot at winning the Presidency...probably not...but maybe a guy like this could ease some of the tensions between the Left and Right and maybe we could actually get some things done. 

I agree.  His views are intentionally mis-represented.  Because he asks questions that a lot of powerful interests don't want answered.

One thing he briefly discussed with Maher was Autism.  He didn't say Autism is caused by vaccines.  He said we don't know but that doesn't mean we should dismiss the possibility.  He cited studies he said were flawed.  And said he's provided clear evidence of this for each and every one. 

He said when he was growing up the rate was 1 child in 10,000 and today its around 1 child in 34.  Why the surge in this condition?  Which stats show started around 1989.  What happened or changed in 1989? 

There's nothing unreasonable or fringe or conspiratorial about that question.  He also said nobody making a lot of money off all kinds of things like drug sales wants to know.  And more importantly, doesn't want us to know.  

None of this sounds crazy to me. 

Edited June 27, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills

[The Frankish Reich]

16 hours ago, Gregg said:

What are the odds Joke is alive in 4 years.

Insurance company actuaries do this kind of thing for a living.

Life expectancy of a male born on November 20, 1942: 8.5 years.

Chance that he will live until at least January 2029 (the end of the next presidential term): about 58 percent.

 

[JaCrispy]

15 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

I've seen RFK all over now on Rogan, Bill Maher, Jordan Peterson, etc...I actually like a lot of what he says.

 

I lean moderately liberal in my own philosophy but I hate both parties. This guy is as close to the center as a candidate that's out there though that I've seen. He's not trying to fit himself into the box of a corporate Democrat or Republican. I don't know if anyone can be trusted that has a decent shot at winning the Presidency...probably not...but maybe a guy like this could ease some of the tensions between the Left and Right and maybe we could actually get some things done. 

I’m the same way…I like what I’m hearing from RFK…he doesn’t seem like a fanatical ideologue…👍

[JaCrispy]

20 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Even if he is, so what?  It's not like he's participating in competitive sports.  

Their just looking for anything to attack him on…and remember, working out is white supremacy…😉

[Doc]

13 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Insurance company actuaries do this kind of thing for a living.

Life expectancy of a male born on November 20, 1942: 8.5 years.

Chance that he will live until at least January 2029 (the end of the next presidential term): about 58 percent.

 

It's not his body living that we're worried about...

[Irv]

A bag of hammers would be better than the joke we have in there now.  What a mess.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

15 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Insurance company actuaries do this kind of thing for a living.

Life expectancy of a male born on November 20, 1942: 8.5 years.

Chance that he will live until at least January 2029 (the end of the next presidential term): about 58 percent.

 

That’s the big picture number, but when contemplating the likelihood of an individual living over a certain period of time, individual characteristics tell a much more detailed tale. 
 

On the one hand, Biden seems to take his health and appearance very seriously. He’s trim and seems to stay active at least for photo ops.  He’s benefited from good plastic surgery and hair work.  On the flip side, he’s got that stuttering issue that causes him to make up words, lose track of his thoughts, wander a stage aimlessly, trip over sandbags real and imagined and result in unusual and awkward movements inconsistent with the situation he is in. 
 

Time will tell. 

[Wacka]

24 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 On the flip side, he’s got that stuttering issue that causes him to make up words, lose track of his thoughts, wander a stage aimlessly, trip over sandbags real and imagined and result in unusual and awkward movements inconsistent with the situation he is in. 
 

Time will tell. 

Stuttering  doesn't cause one to make up words, lose track of his thoughts, wander a stage aimlessly, trip over sandbags real and imagined and result in unusual and awkward movements

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

7 minutes ago, Wacka said:

Stuttering  doesn't cause one to make up words, lose track of his thoughts, wander a stage aimlessly, trip over sandbags real and imagined and result in unusual and awkward movements

Step off George! 

[Doc]

59 minutes ago, Wacka said:

Stuttering  doesn't cause one to make up words, lose track of his thoughts, wander a stage aimlessly, trip over sandbags real and imagined and result in unusual and awkward movements

 

Tell that to Dems...

[The Frankish Reich]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

That’s the big picture number, but when contemplating the likelihood of an individual living over a certain period of time, individual characteristics tell a much more detailed tale. 
 

On the one hand, Biden seems to take his health and appearance very seriously. He’s trim and seems to stay active at least for photo ops.  He’s benefited from good plastic surgery and hair work.  On the flip side, he’s got that stuttering issue that causes him to make up words, lose track of his thoughts, wander a stage aimlessly, trip over sandbags real and imagined and result in unusual and awkward movements inconsistent with the situation he is in. 
 

Time will tell. 

That's all correct. And you've basically confirmed my take: we don't know anything specific (for example, recent cancer, heart disease, obesity, etc.) that would lead us to believe that he's less likely to survive to 86 than most men his age. So there's your 58% chance. Which means a 42% chance that Kamala Harris becomes President if Biden is reelected. (Maybe that should be your campaign messaging, Republicans? But it's a messaging that gets easier to pull off if your candidate is in his/her 40s, 50s, or even 60s as opposed to his late 70s ...)

 

Of course, he may be unusually fit, at least physically, for a man his age such that his life expectancy would be greater than the average. But again, we just don't know. So if an insurance company were selling him an annuity, they'd be betting on him living 8.5 more years, on average.