WickedGame Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 Simple question: Will the Bills make a draft selection in the first round? Quote
hondo in seattle Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 I was just thinking about this again yesterday when I read Bucky Brooks' article on NFL.com. He has 5 guys graded as ALL PROS and 10 guys graded as PRO BOWLERS. So what would we get at 27? An average starter? Probably not a 1st round talent. So why waste a 1st round pick on a 2nd round talent? I'm not entirely convinced but I think Beane may indeed trade down. www.nfl.com/news/2023-nfl-draft-all-pros-pro-bowlers-and-overachievers-in-this-class Quote
K D Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) They either will or they won't. It's 50-50. I'll say this: if they make the pick they will say that it was the last guy they had a round 1 grade on no matter if they did or didn't (Elam). If they don't pick they will talk about how their 2nd round guy had a round 1 grade anyhow (Ford, Epenesa). Funny how that works! Edited April 23, 2023 by KDIGGZ 1 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 I’d like them to find a partner to trade back with, but I have a suspicion Beane will get antsy and stay put or even move up. Quote
BeastMaster Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 They will want to trade back, but no team will be willing to. 2 2 Quote
chongli Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: They will want to trade back, but no team will be willing to. Agreed. There are very few first-round grades in this draft. Unlikely any team is going to want to trade. 1 Quote
Might Rather Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 This is such a crazy year that it's not a simple question. I trust their make the best decision but It's going to be a tough one. Quote
MJS Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 They'll trade back to 34 with Arizona for DeAndre Hopkins (not sure what other draft picks they will give up for this). At 34 they will draft Jack Campbell! 6 1 Quote
Process Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 Dream scenario is trading down with AZ for Hopkins. Imagine coming out of the first two rounds with Hopkins, OT Harrison and a starting MLB. I cant imagine who AZ would want to trade up for though. I think it's going to be very difficult to trade down this draft. Best chance is if Hooker is there at the end of Rd 1 and a team want to move back to the end of the first to get him. Seattle and Detroit come to mind. Quote
MasterStrategist Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Process said: Dream scenario is trading down with AZ for Hopkins. Imagine coming out of the first two rounds with Hopkins, OT Harrison and a starting MLB. I cant imagine who AZ would want to trade up for though. I think it's going to be very difficult to trade down this draft. Best chance is if Hooker is there at the end of Rd 1 and a team want to move back to the end of the first to get him. Seattle and Detroit come to mind. Hopkins is a pipedream and not necessary. But agree about Hooker, or someone who might be very high on a TE that slips. That's the most likely way a team is interested in moving up (without us wanting to draft same position/player). Quote
US Egg Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 Bills drafting 27th use to mean all was well with the team. Here’s hoping that’s the still the case. 2 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, WickedGame said: Simple question: Will the Bills make a draft selection in the first round? My guess is yes. My hope is they trade back and get some extra picks. Edited April 23, 2023 by Thurman#1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 I'm not sure "yes, of course" sums up my view. It is "yes" but not sure it is "of course." I think they probably will pick in round 1. But I am not sure it is a slam dunk. 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 7 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: I was just thinking about this again yesterday when I read Bucky Brooks' article on NFL.com. He has 5 guys graded as ALL PROS and 10 guys graded as PRO BOWLERS. So what would we get at 27? An average starter? Probably not a 1st round talent. So why waste a 1st round pick on a 2nd round talent? I'm not entirely convinced but I think Beane may indeed trade down. www.nfl.com/news/2023-nfl-draft-all-pros-pro-bowlers-and-overachievers-in-this-class I do hear you, but honestly, every year there are usually somewhere between roughly 15 and 20 first round grades. At 27 we're rarely going to get a guy to fall to us, unless our grading greatly differs from most on someone, which could easily happen, really. Quote
SoMAn Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 I think a trade back would largely depend on how far back they’d have to go and what they’re getting in return. Would it be worth getting pick # 50 (for example) and an extra 3rd-round pick? Is there a team with multiple twos who want to move into round 1? Would Beane accept a couple of middle twos for pick # 27? Would a veteran player and another pick do it? I don’t see that happening since a team would usually only part with a decent player for cap reasons. The Bills are already being creative with their limited cap space. In my opinion, it could go any way. Beane could just as likely send one of our players away to relieve cap and move closer to a prospect with a first round grade. If there’s any movement by Beane and the Bills, I don’t think it will happen until they’re well into round 1 and there’s a clearer picture of what options will be available at # 27. Quote
GunnerBill Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: I do hear you, but honestly, every year there are usually somewhere between roughly 15 and 20 first round grades. At 27 we're rarely going to get a guy to fall to us, unless our grading greatly differs from most on someone, which could easily happen, really. I had 18 and 4 borderlines last year. 18 ands 5 borderlines in 2021. I have 11 and 5 borderlines this year. It is definitely less likely a guy falls to #27 this year than other years. But equally You are going to get 4, maybe 5 QBs go earlyish... only one of whom is in my 11+5 so there is a chance that pushes some talent down. Quote
Doc Brown Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 I'd say there's around an 80 to 90% chance we pick in the first round. Either a first round graded player by the Bills falls to them, they can't find a trade partner to move down into the second round with, they move up like they did last year for Elam who was their last first round grade, or they don't want to risk the highest guy on their board (with a 2nd round grade) not falling to them in the second round. There may be a qb needy team after Hooker to get ahead of the Saints at #29. That's pry where the Bills could find a trade down partner. Not likely but possible. 1 1 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 Here's a poll subject: Yes or No: "If I see one more draft thread or podcast I will shoot myself. " 1 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 This draft just doesn’t have the high end talent of others. I don’t think that the Bills pick at 27. Beane LOVES to go up to get his guy. There is a lot of talk about going down but I think it’s just as likely that they go up. Ideally, I’d like to see them do something like 27 & 2024 4th for Hopkins and 34. 2 1 Quote
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