Rumor: Derrick Henry to the eagles???

[Ethan in Cleveland]

They would be crazy to trade for Henry. 

They have two first round picks. 

They are at 10 and if the predicted run on QBs happens they can be looking at a top 5 defender or OT at 10. Better yet they can trade down 5 spots get another 1st rounder next year and still get Robinson. 

 

[HappyDays]

34 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

So was their pass rush.  Until the Super Bowl.  

 

Playing against an elite QB does those things to teams.

 

Off topic, but I think the field is actually what disrupted the Eagles pass rush. They were constantly slipping on their get off. A couple reps Hasaan Reddick was pancaked by Andrew Wylie which is a sign that something else was going on.

 

The Bills improved pass rush was a major disruption against the Chiefs in week 6 (9 QB hits, 3 sacks), before a string of injuries made our pass rush an even lesser version of the 2021 pass rush. So I still believe an elite pass rush can disrupt an elite offense, the same as it's always been. The Eagles just got unlucky with the field conditions.

[Captain Hindsight]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

they should take a QB haha

They should if there’s one they like. Maybe hooker. Tannehill is ok, but they could use a developmental guy. Willis was so bad last year they had to sign Josh Dobbs off a PS to start for them 

[BillsSbSoon]

25 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Off topic, but I think the field is actually what disrupted the Eagles pass rush. They were constantly slipping on their get off. A couple reps Hasaan Reddick was pancaked by Andrew Wylie which is a sign that something else was going on.

 

The Bills improved pass rush was a major disruption against the Chiefs in week 6 (9 QB hits, 3 sacks), before a string of injuries made our pass rush an even lesser version of the 2021 pass rush. So I still believe an elite pass rush can disrupt an elite offense, the same as it's always been. The Eagles just got unlucky with the field conditions.

That field was an embarrassment. 

[BADOLBILZ]

25 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Off topic, but I think the field is actually what disrupted the Eagles pass rush. They were constantly slipping on their get off. A couple reps Hasaan Reddick was pancaked by Andrew Wylie which is a sign that something else was going on.

 

The Bills improved pass rush was a major disruption against the Chiefs in week 6 (9 QB hits, 3 sacks), before a string of injuries made our pass rush an even lesser version of the 2021 pass rush. So I still believe an elite pass rush can disrupt an elite offense, the same as it's always been. The Eagles just got unlucky with the field conditions.

 

 

Meh.....in today's NFL sacks are largely a QB stat.

 

If you were expecting the Eagles to maintain their 3.5 sack per game regular season pace against Patrick Mahomes then you were going to be disappointed.

 

Mahomes was sacked just 3 times in the biggest jail-break SB game we've ever seen against Tampa when he was playing with a line of backups.

 

The bottom line is that the weakness of the "balanced attack" teams are teams that can throw the ball every down and be effective.   Even when they DON'T.   The threat of getting speed-boated changes how they have to play.

[HappyDays]

13 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Mahomes was sacked just 3 times in the biggest jail-break SB game we've ever seen against Tampa when he was playing with a line of backups.

 

Yeah he was only sacked 3 times, but he was running for his life on almost every play which made the offense completely non-functional.

 

Sacks may be a QB number, but elite pass rush is going to **** up the offensive game plan no matter who the QB is. Bills/Jags from 2021 was the same story.

 

The Eagles had an elite pass rush but were almost totally stonewalled, even though Mahomes had a high ankle sprain and wasn't as mobile as usual. Part of it was the Chiefs OL but mostly the field conditions made it an unfair fight.

 

No doubt in my mind if Super Bowl XLII had been played on that field, the Patriots would have an undefeated season to their name.

 

My point is that pass rush isn't suddenly a non-factor in the NFL just because of one data point from a game that was played in uncommonly bad field conditions. It's still arguably the second most valuable factor in any game. Too many people are pointing to that game and saying "see, this proves defense and/or pass rush doesn't matter" which is a ridiculous conclusion for a number of reasons.

[BADOLBILZ]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah he was only sacked 3 times, but he was running for his life on almost every play which made the offense completely non-functional.

 

Sacks may be a QB number, but elite pass rush is going to **** up the offensive game plan no matter who the QB is. Bills/Jags from 2021 was the same story.

 

The Eagles had an elite pass rush but were almost totally stonewalled, even though Mahomes had a high ankle sprain and wasn't as mobile as usual. Part of it was the Chiefs OL but mostly the field conditions made it an unfair fight.

 

No doubt in my mind if Super Bowl XLII had been played on that field, the Patriots would have an undefeated season to their name.

 

My point is that pass rush isn't suddenly a non-factor in the NFL just because of one data point from a game that was played in uncommonly bad field conditions. It's still arguably the second most valuable factor in any game. Too many people are pointing to that game and saying "see, this proves defense and/or pass rush doesn't matter" which is a ridiculous conclusion for a number of reasons.

 

 

 

Oh I value pass rush.  Pass rush is great..........if you can get it.    Which is the point.   Elite QB's with good support around them usually don't allow elite pass rushes to have their normal impact.   If anything the Chiefs OL in that Tampa game and the Bengals OL in that LA Rams SB loss were exceptional circumstances.    Terrible OL's usually aren't on the field in the SB.   You could easily not see an OL as bad as either of those in a SB for the next 10-20 years.

 

As for SB XLII..........that was ages ago and well before the major rules changes of 2010 that had greatly re-shaped the entire game by the mid-2010's.

[Augie]

36 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah he was only sacked 3 times, but he was running for his life on almost every play which made the offense completely non-functional.

 

Sacks may be a QB number, but elite pass rush is going to **** up the offensive game plan no matter who the QB is. Bills/Jags from 2021 was the same story.

 

The Eagles had an elite pass rush but were almost totally stonewalled, even though Mahomes had a high ankle sprain and wasn't as mobile as usual. Part of it was the Chiefs OL but mostly the field conditions made it an unfair fight.

 

No doubt in my mind if Super Bowl XLII had been played on that field, the Patriots would have an undefeated season to their name.

 

My point is that pass rush isn't suddenly a non-factor in the NFL just because of one data point from a game that was played in uncommonly bad field conditions. It's still arguably the second most valuable factor in any game. Too many people are pointing to that game and saying "see, this proves defense and/or pass rush doesn't matter" which is a ridiculous conclusion for a number of reasons.

 

I had never seen the chart in that tweet before. That is INSANE!   😂 

[1st&ten]

3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Depends on if they like any of the QB's available to them and if they feel Malik can still develop too.  If I was to make a wager then I would probably place it on them taking an offensive lineman at 11.  But, I was only saying Bijan would potentially be an option at 11 if they traded Henry before the draft just based on the style of offense they play.  

I agree but if they are moving to rebuilting mode they might trade down some from 11 & then add some OL.

[cle23]

1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

They would be crazy to trade for Henry. 

They have two first round picks. 

They are at 10 and if the predicted run on QBs happens they can be looking at a top 5 defender or OT at 10. Better yet they can trade down 5 spots get another 1st rounder next year and still get Robinson. 

 

 

If Tennessee is just dumping salary,  it may take a later round pick to get Henry, and they keep their higher picks.  No way they would have to trade a 1st for him. 

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

This sounds like an agent trying to get his guy off a bad team and onto a real contender.  I'll believe it when I see it.

[Maynard]

2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

That would be dumb, IMO

Absolutely. Just take Robinson there….

[The Jokeman]

Titans willing to trade with Eagles again after AJ Brown? Ballsy.

[KollegeStudnet]

The odd thing about this rumor is it has smoke, but is it just a ploy to get more from other teams? I keep trying to find more info. All I got is twitter stuff and click bait pieces. 

[chongli]

Great. Nice way to embarrass the Bills in your tweet:

 

 

 

 

[dave mcbride]

6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Meh.....in today's NFL sacks are largely a QB stat.

 

If you were expecting the Eagles to maintain their 3.5 sack per game regular season pace against Patrick Mahomes then you were going to be disappointed.

 

Mahomes was sacked just 3 times in the biggest jail-break SB game we've ever seen against Tampa when he was playing with a line of backups.

 

The bottom line is that the weakness of the "balanced attack" teams are teams that can throw the ball every down and be effective.   Even when they DON'T.   The threat of getting speed-boated changes how they have to play.

Don’t discount the field conditions in the SB. They were ridiculous.

6 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah he was only sacked 3 times, but he was running for his life on almost every play which made the offense completely non-functional.

 

Sacks may be a QB number, but elite pass rush is going to **** up the offensive game plan no matter who the QB is. Bills/Jags from 2021 was the same story.

 

The Eagles had an elite pass rush but were almost totally stonewalled, even though Mahomes had a high ankle sprain and wasn't as mobile as usual. Part of it was the Chiefs OL but mostly the field conditions made it an unfair fight.

 

No doubt in my mind if Super Bowl XLII had been played on that field, the Patriots would have an undefeated season to their name.

 

My point is that pass rush isn't suddenly a non-factor in the NFL just because of one data point from a game that was played in uncommonly bad field conditions. It's still arguably the second most valuable factor in any game. Too many people are pointing to that game and saying "see, this proves defense and/or pass rush doesn't matter" which is a ridiculous conclusion for a number of reasons.

100 percent. Excellent post.

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

Only three question marks in the subject title? Weak sauce. The established minimum is 22. 

[MasterStrategist]

7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Meh.....in today's NFL sacks are largely a QB stat.

 

If you were expecting the Eagles to maintain their 3.5 sack per game regular season pace against Patrick Mahomes then you were going to be disappointed.

 

Mahomes was sacked just 3 times in the biggest jail-break SB game we've ever seen against Tampa when he was playing with a line of backups.

 

The bottom line is that the weakness of the "balanced attack" teams are teams that can throw the ball every down and be effective.   Even when they DON'T.   The threat of getting speed-boated changes how they have to play.

Agree about some of this...but...

 

The field condition absolutely hampered the Eagles speed rush.  Bad field conditions/footing will tend to favor an offense, if they're capable of a quick or intermediate passing game (which KC can obviously do it all).

 

I'm still in the camp that we're not getting to the SB until we have a consistent/disruptive DL, but in general, much better in the trenches.

 

I'd love another WR this draft, but if the Cincy (and prior KC playoff) loss showed us anything, it was we're not good enough on either line.

 

I know everyone wants a new #2 WR, but I'm hapoy of this draft focuses on the trenches rds 1&2, then gets us a Wr and MLB.  Can't fill every hole this offseason, but Beane has to hit on the top 2 picks.  I'm fine if our MLB position is a rotation of sorts, and McD gets more creative with dime looks.

[US Egg]

Were Henry to go to the Eagles, they become my 2nd favorite team to want to watch.

…..now that Brady is gone.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Henry to the Eagles would certainly make them a shoe in for the NFC championship if they can keep up their pace from last year. I still want to see Hurts dominate for one more year until I’m true believer. I think Henry is well worth their 30th overall pick. The Eagles have the O-Line to get the most out of him. This would make me terrified if I was a Cowboys or Giants fan.