GunnerBill Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Maybe my definition of “stink” is a little different. Signing drama EVERY year, skipping from team to team, producing marginally for high $ and then repeating the process “stinks” to me and if I were building a team I’d have zero interest in someone like him. He has had years where his production has been moderate and years where it has been very good. Is a former 2nd team all pro and has been a starter all 9 years in the league. There is no way I call that "stink". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He has had years where his production has been moderate and years where it has been very good. Is a former 2nd team all pro and has been a starter all 9 years in the league. There is no way I call that "stink". Is went number one overall. There are many types of stink. On the field I’d say more “decent plus”. But every year will the BS will he or won’t he crap is no way to help a team. It might not even help his bank account but that is clearly his goal. That’s where the stink comes in. He is a guy to be avoided if you’re building a winning team for the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Just now, 4merper4mer said: Is went number one overall. There are many types of stink. On the field I’d say more “decent plus”. But every year will the BS will he or won’t he crap is no way to help a team. It might not even help his bank account but that is clearly his goal. That’s where the stink comes in. He is a guy to be avoided if you’re building a winning team for the long term. Yes he has underperformed for a #1 pick. But the thread is about busting. He isn't a bust. No matter what interpretation of stink I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 4 hours ago, frostbitmic said: Sammy Watkins ... I was ecstatic when they traded up and his name was called, would've felt that way with Mack as well. He was so good in college, so fast off the line. Then he got to the pros and got hurt regularly and started talking about lizard people. BUST Just a minute there, Bucko. Watkins lets me shoehorn a 'Seinfeld' reference in almost effortlessly. Sammy 'Fragile Frankie Merman' Watkins. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Blaine Gabbert is in fact not a bust Shirley you can’t be serious but if you are I am sorry to break the rules you’ve taken it upon yourself to impose on the thread. In an effort to comply, I’ll simply ask you to supply a list of acceptable names to classify as busts. I figure if Gabbert isn’t on the list it must be really short. Thanks in advance. Edited April 22, 2023 by 4merper4mer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Limas Sweed I’m not sure why but I was obsessed with that guy and how good he’d be Lame Ass Swede?!? You show some respect for Merlin Olsen! 😠 * Oh, and fix your Spell Check. Edited April 22, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yes he has underperformed for a #1 pick. But the thread is about busting. He isn't a bust. No matter what interpretation of stink I have. His lack of team focus has harmed franchises. I think that stinks but we can certainly agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Just now, 4merper4mer said: His lack of team focus has harmed franchises. I think that stinks but we can certainly agree to disagree. We can. But that isn't what the thread is about. He doesn't belong in a thread about busts. He isn't a bust. He isn't necessarily someone I'd want on my team, either. But that is a different conversation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 EJ Manuel I kind of always knew he was a work in progress when he got drafted but I thought he seemed to have a real good attitude about him as well. Like he would put in the hard work needed to succeed in the NFL and learn a lot from his mistakes. I still think his lack of success came from being weak in between the ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Ryan Leaf. I thought he was hands down 100% better prospect than Peyton Manning. He was, physically. I thought RG3 was going to be special, injuries really derailed him, but even in the later years of his career he just couldn’t get it done. Luck also has to be thrown in here too, he had a decent career, but was often injured and really accomplished nothing. Edited April 22, 2023 by DCofNC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 I'll play: Solomon Thomas. Single-handedly won the 2016 Sun Bowl vs. Trubisky and NC. Vernon Gholston. He ruined the Big 10 in 2007. Justin Blackmon. Was unstoppable as a Soph and Jr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Fromm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Well, the right Josh is an obvious choice. However, as a fan of the Texas Tech Red Raiders (well, I am on TTU's faculty), my entry is Michael Crabtree. His college career was stellar. As TTU was the permanent underdog, no TTU sports fan will ever forget his catch to beat our arch rivals UT in 2008. Crabtree's NFL career was not a bust. However, "meh" is a precise description. In TTU's underdog mentality (this goes way beyond athletics; of all the state universities in Texas, the vast majority of funds goes to UT and Texas A&M; our share is a pittance), we favor TTU college athletes who did better than expected as professional, such as Zach Thomas, Wes Welker, and perhaps even Patrick Mahomes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbs Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Zay Jones. I was convinced he'd be a better than average. Sold on his floor, hopeful on upside that is. Still can't believe he stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 18 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Leeland McElroy. Also Wendell Bryant I was all banging the drum for us to take Wendell Bryant. D'Wayne Bates was also I guy was high on predraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Walt Patulski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Southern_Bills said: Aaron Curry LB out of Wake Forest. Seahawks took him 4th overall and I thought he would be an instant HoF player, I was dead wrong lol. 6 hours ago, BillsSbSoon said: I thought Curry was going to be a beast too. His tape was incredible. He looked like an instant plug and play pro bowler Agreed. I also thought very highly of Anthony Barr... was convinced he was a better player than Kahlil Mack. While Barr hasn't been a bust, he's been a bit of a disappointment to me. 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Blaine Gabbert is in fact not a bust Gabbert was drafted 10th overall, is entering his 13th season and his 6th team. He has 48 career starts. In those starts he has a 13-35 record. In my eyes he's a bust considering his draft position. On the other hand he's made $26 million over his NFL career so there's that, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Agreed. I also thought very highly of Anthony Barr... was convinced he was a better player than Kahlil Mack. While Barr hasn't been a bust, he's been a bit of a disappointment to me. Gabbert was drafted 10th overall, is entering his 13th season and his 6th team. He has 48 career starts. In those starts he has a 13-35 record. In my eyes he's a bust considering his draft position. On the other hand he's made $26 million over his NFL career so there's that, too. I think the definition of busters what is the problem here to me a bust is somebody that’s no longer in the league there also could be different levels of bust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said: Agreed. I also thought very highly of Anthony Barr... was convinced he was a better player than Kahlil Mack. While Barr hasn't been a bust, he's been a bit of a disappointment to me. Gabbert was drafted 10th overall, is entering his 13th season and his 6th team. He has 48 career starts. In those starts he has a 13-35 record. In my eyes he's a bust considering his draft position. On the other hand he's made $26 million over his NFL career so there's that, too. I didn’t think as highly of Anthony Barr though. The tweener guys where you’re not sure if they are a de or an olb always scare me. Same with the is he a safety or a linebacker tweener Edited April 23, 2023 by BillsSbSoon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 I don't watch a lot of college football but when I was at Purdue, I attended most of the games and continued to watch them after graduation on tv. Back in the 1980's they had a QB named Scott Campbell. The team around him sucked and his stats as a three-year starter are hardly impressive. But his numbers didn't do him justice. I watched him sling the ball around the field with authority - making all the throws. And I started to tell people: this guy's gonna be an NFL quarterback. I didn't believe he'd be Joe Montana but I was convinced he'd be a competent starter. Well, he was chosen in the 7th round by the Steelers and made the squad as the third-stringer running the practice squad. One game, both the starter and backup got hurt, and Campbell has to come in despite not running any plays with the offense that week. He didn't light it up but he played decent. And, at that moment, I was feeling right about him. But poor Scott spent 6 years in the NFL, mostly as a backup, throwing more incompletions in his lackluster career than completions, and more picks than TDs. And, having watched his mediocrity unfold, made me realize that I know jack about scouting college QBs. Scott has done well in PA real estate, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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