Magox Posted April 22, 2023 Author Posted April 22, 2023 3 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I swear this board has some kind of fetish for undersized white slot receivers Not sure I know what you are talking about but Isabella had speed in the 4.3’s who was highly productive in college. I thought he was going to be a really good slot WR. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, Magox said: Not sure I know what you are talking about but Isabella had speed in the 4.3’s who was highly productive in college. I thought he was going to be a really good slot WR. Whoa. I looked it up. He ran a 4.27. I stand corrected Quote
Norcalbillsfan Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 For the bills: cj spiller, I guess he's not a "bust" per say but I thought he was going to be the future at RB. For NFL: there's so many but I remember thinking the broncos got an absolute steal with Montee Ball. I told my friends that are broncos fans that that was the steal of the draft. I was wrong. Quote
4merper4mer Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 4 hours ago, NewEra said: Too many to list Me too. I’ll go with one that randomly popped to mind. Grant Delpit. Maybe it’s a little early to say bust bur I thought he’d be a big time star. The fact that by page 3 no one has mentioned Andrew Luck shows that groupthink and denial are powerful forces. 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Shortchaz said: Clowney I think you misunderstood the question Busts don’t play in the league for as long as Jadeveon Clowney has Quote
freddyjj Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Magox said: Not sure I know what you are talking about but Isabella had speed in the 4.3’s who was highly productive in college. I thought he was going to be a really good slot WR. Some things jump out looking back at him at UMass in hindsight. He had TRex 29" arms and 8.5" hands. He was used as a kick an punt returner sparingly with mediocre results - poor averages with no TDs. Once drafted by the Cards he played exclusively in the slot despite the fact that he was an outside receiver throughout his collegiate career. Could not break press coverage vs man and was a body catcher with plenty of drops. Quote
Shortchaz Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 24 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I think you misunderstood the question Busts don’t play in the league for as long as Jadeveon Clowney has Oh, I guess I wasn’t aware there was an official definition. Quote
John from Riverside Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: Oh, I guess I wasn’t aware there was an official definition. Fair enough My definition would be somebody out of the league. They suck so bad Aaron maybin Quote
GunnerBill Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: Oh, I guess I wasn’t aware there was an official definition. Jadaveon Clowney is a good football player. He hasn't lived up to 1st overall pick status, that's definitely true but if Clowney had gone back half of round 1 nobody would perceive him as an underachiever, definitely not what I'd consider a bust. But you are right the definition isn't universal. Jeff Okudah who the Lions just traded to the Falcons is right up there for me. I loved him. Had a super high grade on him, would have had no problem selecting him at #3 overall like Detroit did and if he was in this draft his grade would make him my #1 player overall. But after 3 years where he failed to stay healthy and struggled to cover guys he is traded away for a 5th round pick and Lions even ate some of his money. Maybe he revives his career in Atlanta but for now he is a massive bust and he is a player I loved coming out. The only other guys I can find since I have been doing this (2014) who I had first round grades on who other than for major injury or off field reasons have been total duds have been Josh Rosen and Vernon Hargreaves (too soon to add Zack Wilson to that list?). There is then a group of Shaq Lawson and Jarran Reed types who were lower first round grades who have only ended up as role players rather than as every down starters, who I'd certainly call disappointing 1st round value but not total busts. 1 Quote
Bills!Win! Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 Every Detroit Lions receiver drafted in the 1st round since 2000 except Calvin Johnson 1 1 Quote
NeverOutNick Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 Corey Davis was my biggest blunder. I thought he was going to be a stud #1 WR and now he’s struggling to make it on the Jets. Still time but he was a future star in my eyes and I whiffed Quote
machine gun kelly Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) Karlo Williams until he ate out an all you can eat buffet. Edited April 23, 2023 by machine gun kelly 1 Quote
Manther Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 43 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: Every Detroit Lions receiver drafted in the 1st round since 2000 except Calvin Johnson True dat! 7 hours ago, KzooMike said: Easier to look at Bills, a guy that stands out is James Hardy. I thought he was exactly what we needed at the time and he was out of the league in about 5 seconds. I know a lot of people liked him on here as well. I used to follow the draft more. James Hardy...I would have been fine taking him in the first, then we got him in the 2nd and I thought we won the lottery! I have his jersey. Then he opened up gun fire and killed his father, then he died. Sorry if this sounds superficial, but, he was a bust. Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 12 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Of Bills players they drafted… Sammy Watkins I’m the first to admit after watching him beat Ohio State himself I thought The Bills had a true once every 5 years kinda receiver. Didn’t work out that way. The league… there’s been so many but I’d go with Peter Warwick from Florida State for people old enough to remember him. You really wasn’t wrong about Sammy he was turning into a superstar until the injuries started . He was zapped of all his speed and burst and never recovered. 12 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Of Bills players they drafted… Sammy Watkins I’m the first to admit after watching him beat Ohio State himself I thought The Bills had a true once every 5 years kinda receiver. Didn’t work out that way. The league… there’s been so many but I’d go with Peter Warwick from Florida State for people old enough to remember him. You really wasn’t wrong about Sammy he was turning into a superstar until the injuries started . He was zapped of all his speed and burst and never recovered. Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 Ryan Leaf. I thought he was hands down 100% better prospect than Peyton Manning. Quote
4merper4mer Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I think you misunderstood the question Busts don’t play in the league for as long as Jadeveon Clowney has The guy has played a long time but stinks. Blaine Gabbert went like #5 overall and is still playing. He’s not a bust? 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 12 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Of Bills players they drafted… Sammy Watkins I’m the first to admit after watching him beat Ohio State himself I thought The Bills had a true once every 5 years kinda receiver. Didn’t work out that way. The league… there’s been so many but I’d go with Peter Warwick from Florida State for people old enough to remember him. The maddening part is he had the talent to be, just not the mindset...his demons overtook him 1 Quote
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