JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 51 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: Funny, I heard him talk about his nfl experience just the other day. He talked about how the team that drafted him changed coordinators multiple times in his first contract and also lost a lot of talent. I.e. he was set-up for failure or not good enough to overcome those obstacles. Yeah Cleveland especially at that time was probably not a great place to start his career, although I think he was from near that area so was probably cool for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) Mike Jasper I believe is the guy I'm thinking of. 2011 7th round pick of the Bills. If I'm thinking of the right guy, he was a physical freak with incredible speed and agility for a guy that stood 6' 4' and weighed close to 400 lbs. I thought he'd be a monster on the D-line. Just goes to show, having size and/or speed is no guarantee a player will cut it in the NFL. He never amounted to anything more than camp fodder. Another one I had high hopes for was RB Derrick Holmes, 1995 draft pick I'm pretty sure. Like so many RBs, looked great in Pre-season, but didn't have too much of a career with the Bills. Backup for a bit. Edited April 26, 2023 by SoMAn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/22/2023 at 12:19 PM, BarleyNY said: What level you want your first round picks to play at? No. But his career is pretty much what you’d expect from a DE picked later in the first round. Here’s the other thing about these arguments - players don’t choose where they get drafted. I don’t ding overdrafted players for that. The fault is that of some GM. Clowney has had a long, solid career as a player. That’s not a bust IMO. You talk about Clowney like he has been a big time difference maker over his career. I would not put him in that category. Like I said earlier, he hasn't sucked. But he has been just a guy for the most part. But not every player is going to be a star regardless of where they get drafted. I have watched a lot of football over the years. And he really hasn't moved the meter for me. But we can agree to disagree on our assessment of Clowney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 9:52 PM, BigdaddyinOrlando said: Brian Bozworth, he was an animal in college, pros he was an ordinary joe Yeah, same thing with Tony Manrdarich, nearly everyone thought these guys would be absolute monsters in the NFL. Guess at some point talent and will > PEDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/22/2023 at 5:27 AM, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: karlos williams We’re you high on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/23/2023 at 6:58 PM, Orlando Tim said: Good point, lesson learned is not to draft any Mike Williams. To call him a bust you must have expected him to be top 5 every year. He is top 25 in total receiving yards since joining the league, with two 1100+ yard seasons while being a great down field blocker. Woods is hardly a bust but he has bounced around quite a bit (third team in 9 seasons) and isn't a legit no. 1 at this point. High expectations for sure but he deserved them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: We’re you high on him? he did smoke if I recall. why he ate so much. serious note though, I thought he was going to be kind of like henry is now, or in his prime. running backs, especially work horses seem to have a shorter career. as for karlos, he really disappointed me as my expectations, yes were high. hard to really judge on such a short nfl tenure but he did have potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Laquon Treadwell, I was convinced he was going to be better than Julio Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybills Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 6:00 PM, Magox said: I got to thinking the other day, which player did I believe was going to be a sneaky good player in the league that was a complete bust? For me I was sure that Andy Isabella was going to be a good WR in this league, and he hasn't done jack squat. Trent Richardson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 i remember thinking corey moore would be great for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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