4 Detroit Lions suspended for gambling violations

[1ManRaid]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

No. But, what kind of message does it send when players with domestic violent and assault charges receive less punishment

 

I don't really follow this kind of stuff, but is that still really the case?  I could have sworn I've heard about DV players getting outright cut and whatnot.

[That's No Moon]

57 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

There are also huge signs in the stadiums advertising betting, also areas in some stadiums where you can legally bet.  Just seems like a ridiculous rule for the nfl. I mean what if you see a great chance to live bet the game but you're getting in the cold tub for treatment?  Certainly not walking outside in your towel to the street so you can make bet.

We all have workplace rules to deal with. NFL players are amply compensated to deal with theirs. If you are in that situation and and can't not make the bet, knowing the potential consequences you have a problem.

 

The better question to ask is how any of this came to light. What aroused suspicion?

[Radar]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

No. But, what kind of message does it send when players with domestic violent and assault charges receive less punishment

Risk to the game and league vs something that is a question of a persons personal conduct. Agree with you gambling vs domestic abuse in general is not as serious offense. One is against the law for good reason.

[Chandler#81]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

I’ve wondered how long this would take. 
Back in My Day, if you gamble, you’re gone. Alex Karras and Golden Boy Paul Hornung shook up the NFL landscape being suspended for a year for gambling. 
Now, with gaming organizations involved deeply in NFL marketing, this will likely jut be the tip of the iceberg..

 

I’m not above quoting my own posts. 🤷‍♂️
 

Newspaper clip from the Karras gambling suspension

 

[BillsfaninSB]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

I place bets at work daily 

Half the working male population would be fired if participating in an NCAA basketball tournament bracket pool was banned. 

[aristocrat]

41 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

We all have workplace rules to deal with. NFL players are amply compensated to deal with theirs. If you are in that situation and and can't not make the bet, knowing the potential consequences you have a problem.

 

The better question to ask is how any of this came to light. What aroused suspicion?

All the books have all the names of players in the leagues so any time they bet they’re flagged. That’s how Ridley got caught. But I read the lions had staff members get fired as well so this is all strange. 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

All of they Lions say they are innocent of the charges.

 

And they say the odds are 3:1 that they'll be back in the league in 2023. 

[nucci]

3 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

All of they Lions say they are innocent of the charges.

 

And they say the odds are 3:1 that they'll be back in the league in 2023. 

I'll take that

[BillsShredder83]

3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Honestly why does the NFL care about that so much when they don't care about women abusers? 

The league makes BILLIONS from Gambling.  Hypocrisy 

You answered this yourself. I honestly do 100% think this is stupid bc college, but there is a billion dollar industry at stake for both the NFL and sportsbooks.

 

You know that rule your mom taught you as a kid, that if youre alone with a girl you dont know, in a strange place, you get up and leave to a room with other people in it..... that was because any allegation, no matter how false, diminishes your reputation. once its made, theres a certain % of people youll never EVER win back no matter what.

 

This is how the league handles it, and the players are stupid af to not recognize it and handle it the same way.  you either dont, or be a helluva lot smarter than to do it in your name, at the facility... college or not... because you can be certain theyve all been in multiple meetings stressing EXACTLY what is and isnt ok

[4merper4mer]

Another way for a Bama player to bust.  Oh, wait no.  This bust method has already been used by Bama.

[John from Riverside]

Damn Jameson Williams 

That’s gonna hurt

[JoPoy88]

3 hours ago, aristocrat said:

They weren't even betting on nfl games? The only issue was it was done in the facility?  This seems a little ridiculous

especially when they build sportsbooks right inside the stadiums now. The Bills’ new diggs will have one I’d bet 😉

[BananaB]

4 hours ago, Beast said:

Seriously? You want to turn the NFL into something where players are throwing games?

The way I see it the league already does that with their officials

[BillsShredder83]

4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

No. But, what kind of message does it send when players with domestic violent and assault charges receive less punishment

dude cmon. the nfl doesnt give a isht about anything but profit, at all.

DV, costs them a bad headline

The appearance, unproven or not, of a player even shaving points/yards, would cost both organizations Billions

 

its honestly extremely easy to figure out

[LittleSammy]

3 hours ago, ddaryl said:

Has the ax fallen or is just getting sharpened?  Is Detroit the only team with a major problem or will we see more issues from now to trainign camp?

The axe has to be just getting sharpened. It's hard to believe out of a population of 1,600+ plus players that only 5 were involved. But, then again, not sure the NFL wants this to get fully exposed for the reasons noted elsewhere in this thread.

[Chaos]

4 hours ago, Beast said:

Seriously? You want to turn the NFL into something where players are throwing games?

I know, seriously that is the job of the officials, not the players. 

[BillsShredder83]

3 hours ago, ddaryl said:

the whole NFL embracing legalized gambling will be a mess IMO....  its a problem that will come up over and over again with the players

 

I don't wasnt to see gambling parlors inside stadiums either, there will be lots of fan carnage from gambling addicition IMO

 

chasing every single penny you can get via gambling will have have a toll on the league

Nah, next player up gets a death sentence that will yet again reinforce this.... and most will be smart enough to avoid after that. Not worth it

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

For those calling the players idiots or saying they don't understand how they could do this, they must not know many problem gamblers.  I have more than a few gambling addicts in my friend and family circle, and they have ZERO impulse control on how many, how much and/or what type of bets they lay down.  Self destruction (and collateral damage) is their middle name.

Ive been a recovering addict 3+ years.  Getting drugs/booze was fairly easy, but i atleast had to put my shoes on, drive somewhere, have even just a few minutes to think it through... cant imagine having my drug in my pocket 247 at the push of a button and trying to recover. YIKES

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:

especially when they build sportsbooks right inside the stadiums now. The Bills’ new diggs will have one I’d bet 😉

What would be the point of a sportsbook, when you can place bets on your phone, right from your seat?

[JoPoy88]

11 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

What would be the point of a sportsbook, when you can place bets on your phone, right from your seat?

honestly I’m not sure because I agree with you but they are putting them in stadiums. I have not been inside one yet but I assume it’s a branded fan zone type deal with some staff to walk newbies through getting the app and placing bets, probably a bar in there of course too. 
 

edit: and some of them may have old school windows and kiosks like casino books do for people who don’t want to bet on their phones.

Edited April 21, 2023 by JoPoy88