PrimeTime101 Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 With Technology advancing>? I think more and more players are going to start getting caught if they do not smarten up. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 24 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He wasn't cleared by anyone. He just wasn't charged. Big difference. Also, several teams knew about the allegations before draft day. (AP): "Executives from two different teams told The Associated Press they became aware of Araiza’s involvement in an incident during the draft process, but neither person knew the extent of the allegations", meaning all the sordid details. He wasn't charged by anyone. The poster said we "drafted a rapist punter" when referencing our dark side of the franchise. I don't care that 2 other teams heard something, the fact remains, the Buffalo Bills did NOT know of the allegations on draft night and then willfully drafted him. Like most the world, they found out after the draft. 1 1 Quote
Doc Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: He wasn't charged by anyone. The poster said we "drafted a rapist punter" when referencing our dark side of the franchise. I don't care that 2 other teams heard something, the fact remains, the Buffalo Bills did NOT know of the allegations on draft night and then willfully drafted him. Like most the world, they found out after the draft. And then we found out that the statutory rape charge was bogus and he was cleared of it, and by lying about that, the rest of her allegations had no merit. And at the civil trial we'll probably find out he wasn't even at the house when the gang rape occurred, if it gets that far (at least as far as he is concerned). Edited April 22, 2023 by Doc 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc said: And then we found out that the statutory rape charge was bogus and he was cleared of it, and by lying about that, the rest of her allegations had no merit. And at the civil trial we'll probably find out he wasn't even at the house when the gang rape occurred, if it gets that far (at least as far as he is concerned). he wasn’t “cleared” of anything. That would require his day in court. Quote
mannc Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he wasn’t “cleared” of anything. That would require his day in court. Suspects are “cleared” by the police (and DAs) all the time, when they decline to bring charges or drop pending charges. You don’t need a “not guilty” verdict after a trial to be cleared of something. 19 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he wasn’t “cleared” of anything. That would require his day in court. Quote from the DA in the Araiza case: "Ultimately, prosecutors determined it is clear the evidence does not support the filing of criminal charges and there is no path to a potential criminal conviction," the district attorney's office said in a statement. If that's not "cleared", I don't know what is. 1 1 Quote
Doc Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 51 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he wasn’t “cleared” of anything. That would require his day in court. What court? The allegations didn't even merit charges, much less taking him to court. 1 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc said: What court? The allegations didn't even merit charges, much less taking him to court. You understand the difference. Why pretend otherwise. Quote
Doc Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: You understand the difference. Why pretend otherwise. You know it didn't happen. Why pretend otherwise. Quote
Augie Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Doc said: You know it didn't happen. Why pretend otherwise. Look who you are going back and forth with. Our village is there for him. We take turns. It will be OK. Quote
Doc Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Augie said: Look who you are going back and forth with. Our village is there for him. We take turns. It will be OK. I know but he brings it on himself. 1 1 Quote
Augie Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc said: I know but he brings it on himself. He must enjoy it on some level. 1 Quote
AuntieEm Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) On 4/21/2023 at 11:55 AM, 17islongenough said: I'm curious on why some are suspended for 6 games while the others are suspended for a year. From the article the 6 game suspensions were for betting from team facility and their bets were on some college games. The indefinite suspensions were assessed for players that bet on NFL games again from team facilities. So the betting on college games was not gonna damage the shield as much as a bet on an NFL game does. The indefinite can apply for reinstatement for the next years season so it's called a 1 yr suspension. However it can be permanent if the player fails to take any steps the league requires of them. If a player was a truly addicted gambler that can't stop he'd never play again. Edited April 23, 2023 by AuntieEm Quote
Doc Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) And then there is this: Witness: Matt Araiza 'left the party' before sex acts began in bedroom Looks like there won't even be a civil trial. Edited April 23, 2023 by Doc Quote
Mr. WEO Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 13 hours ago, Augie said: He must enjoy it on some level. yet you can't stop commenting. It's a compulsion, no? Quote
jethro_tull Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 The NFL made its own bed with such sponsorships and allegiances to sports betting including a team in Las Vegas. I expect to see more of this and worse. 1 Quote
Steinsman1981 Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 It's always disappointing to hear about players getting suspended for gambling violations. Players need to abide by the rules and regulations set by the NFL to maintain the integrity of the game. Quote
Bulldog Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 I love the sport of football & the Bills - but my goodness is there any limit to the hypocrisy of the NFL regarding gambling. They are in bed with the gambling industry - their profits are greatly enhanced by people gambling on their games - yet feel they can act surprised when issues like this crop up. 2 1 Quote
NewEra Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bulldog said: I love the sport of football & the Bills - but my goodness is there any limit to the hypocrisy of the NFL regarding gambling. They are in bed with the gambling industry - their profits are greatly enhanced by people gambling on their games - yet feel they can act surprised when issues like this crop up. They need to be beyond strict regarding betting on NFL games….. but players not being able to place a bet on non NFL games while in a team Facility is beyond stupid. Anyone know what this rule is in place for? What does it protect? 1 Quote
blitzboy54 Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 11:41 AM, Warriorspikes51 said: Honestly why does the NFL care about that so much when they don't care about women abusers? The league makes BILLIONS from Gambling. Hypocrisy You answered your own question. They are protecting that revenue by not allowing even the appearance of thrown games. They don't make a dime on domestic abuse Quote
Mynamemike Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Bulldog said: I love the sport of football & the Bills - but my goodness is there any limit to the hypocrisy of the NFL regarding gambling. They are in bed with the gambling industry - their profits are greatly enhanced by people gambling on their games - yet feel they can act surprised when issues like this crop up. Agreed and if I remember correctly they avoided having a team in Vegas for the very reason that it could compromise the game. Yet here we are with non stop advertising for sports books. It’s sad, I’m watching good friends blow money they don’t have on this. At least when they had to go to the off track wagering or bookie, it limited how often they would gamble. Now they’ll gamble on literally anything all the time, it’s pretty wild to watch. Quote
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