Inigo Montoya Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, JohnNord said: The “learning to fall” premise is flawed. He can try to tuck his chin all he wants but most of the time he’s not going to have any control with how his body hits the ground - especially when other players are on topic of him. It’s different in WWE as the wrestlers (who also tuck their chin) know when then are going to fall and have a high degree of control of their body. I disagree. Look at the Milano concussion. He falls backwards like a limp fish and snaps his head against the ground. Completely avoidable. After the first concussion the next ones happen easier. I agree, the concussion vs the Bengals that knocked him out for good would have been tough to avoid, he got whipped to the ground. Edited April 20, 2023 by Inigo Montoya 1 Quote
JimmyNoodles Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 Tua seems like a good dude and I respect him. Unfortunately, he is made of glass and you can't protect your whole body when you're tackled. I guess we'll see what this season looks like, but IMO retirement is the way to go before the next inevitable major injury happens. 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 2 hours ago, babulator said: Was this a thing, or a rumored thing? Any credibility to this? I typically try to avoid following this stuff, but the night before the game? Ugh... Doesn't they usually stay in a hotel on the night before games Quote
Andrew Son Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Doesn't they usually stay in a hotel on the night before games I don't think the Bills do for home games 1 1 Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 I think he should wait until week 1 halftime Quote
JerseyBills Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 15 hours ago, John from Riverside said: As soon as a player starts talking about retirement, they are retired I’m telling you top to bottom Miami has an excellent roster, except for the most important position Yup. That's apparently a big reason why the Rodgers deal hasn't gotten done. Once he mentioned 90%retirement the Jests came down on the compensation, according to WFAN radio guys, who do have legit sources Quote
frostbitmic Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 It's hard to control how you fall when you're being ragdolled or planted into the turf by much bigger men. 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Tua seems like a really nice guy. It’s a tough situation that he is in. He’s trying to stay around long enough to get that massive 2nd contract. Hopefully the concussion issues subside and he has a long, healthy life. He is a wonderful person. I wish that he would retire and get a job as an announcer of sorts and protect his health. 1 Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 6 hours ago, StHustle said: Well at least a whole new helmet has been designed and approved cause of what happened to him. I wonder if Josh will wear the new Tua Helmet as well. Would the helmet help the defenders from getting concussions when the Allen Train runs through town? Quote
Doc Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 Unfortunately he'll likely be forced into retirement sooner rather than later. Quote
colin Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 just saying that, he's done. sad thing is, he's gonna get his bell rung again but good, and then he's forced to make the decision he shoulda done before. Quote
The Frankish Reich Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 18 hours ago, Kiva said: If he was smart he’d retire. But he’s not, he likes abuse. Almost all football players keep going even as permanent damage to their bodies from continuing becomes very likely. Quote
mabden Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 18 hours ago, Bangarang said: Me too. Then I remembered I have bills to pay. Add up what he has been paid plus injury settlement vs what I make over the course of my career. Tua still comes up higher. Quote
Beck Water Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 8 hours ago, StHustle said: Well at least a whole new helmet has been designed and approved cause of what happened to him. I wonder if Josh will wear the new Tua Helmet as well. I have not heard anything about this. Can you provide any more details, links etc etc? Quote
Beck Water Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Yup. That's apparently a big reason why the Rodgers deal hasn't gotten done. Once he mentioned 90%retirement the Jests came down on the compensation, according to WFAN radio guys, who do have legit sources Well, especially the Jets understandably don't want a 1 year rental while giving up multi-year picks. 5 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: I disagree. Look at the Milano concussion. He falls backwards like a limp fish and snaps his head against the ground. Completely avoidable. After the first concussion the next ones happen easier. I agree, the concussion vs the Bengals that knocked him out for good would have been tough to avoid, he got whipped to the ground. Yeah, that roughing call on Milano was pretty weak-sauce IMHO, and Tua absolutely had the ability to control how he fell there to some extent. In general of course, it's a point that the player can't always avoid concussion-causing hits. Edited April 20, 2023 by Beck Water Quote
Beck Water Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 3 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Doesn't they usually stay in a hotel on the night before games Yes, they do, including home games. There is a schedule they follow that varies from team to team but typical would be a team meal, final run-through of the game plan and team meetings about 7 pm, some form of Chapel or religious service for those who want it, and 10 pm curfew. That said, teams have been known to allow veteran players or star players to go home after the team meetings and sleep at home, or, to go home in the morning before the game. 'Zo Alexander talked about how the Bills allowed him to go home and spend a couple hours watching cartoons with his kids, and it really helped him. He was still one of the earliest to get to the stadium! Quote
StHustle Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 46 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I have not heard anything about this. Can you provide any more details, links etc etc? https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/13/sport/nfl-quarterback-helmet-concussion-spt-intl/index.html Just posting the first thing that came up in Google. Obviously if CNN reported it many other outlets has as well. 1 Quote
US Egg Posted April 21, 2023 Posted April 21, 2023 (edited) Whatever Tua chooses, I hope the best for him. Same as I would anyone trying to better life for themselves and/or their kinship. Edited April 21, 2023 by I am the egg man 1 Quote
RiotAct Posted April 21, 2023 Posted April 21, 2023 22 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: It's like Marv used to say, "The second you start thinking about retirement... you'll be sitting with them... right here, right now." Or something like that. Man I'm getting old... I believe the quote was “The second you start thinking about retirement, it’s just right for us!” 2 Quote
papazoid Posted April 21, 2023 Posted April 21, 2023 Concussion expert Chris Nowinski says Tua Tagovailoa ‘being completely misled' on CTE https://www.yahoo.com/news/concussion-expert-chris-nowinski-says-100903962.html 1 Quote
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