Sean McDermott excited about calling the Defense

[Buffalo716]

6 hours ago, colin said:

 

he did it once that was disclosed publicly.

 

I think he did it a few times.  the wind game in 2021 hosting NE (thursday night, monday?  it was prime time).  i remember the camera being close to our players and coach on the sidelines, and mcd looked like he was screaming and telling guys what they needed to do (after missed gaps lead to a longish touchdown).  after that the d stiffened up some and we had a shot late in the game.

 

i think he's done it a few times and what's more i think it lead to pretty immediate positive results. 

First of all the media grilled McDermott when that happened… Because it was obvious to see

 

Second, The media never grilled MacDermot on it again… Because it didn’t happen

 

You can’t pull playcalling duties for your coordinator without The world knowing… People knew the second it happened against San Diego

 

And of course McDermott is always screaming and yelling at players he’s the head coach

2 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

If the only evidence you will accept is McDermott admitting it, then yes there is only evidence of 1 game.

No the evidence is that everybody in the stadium saw it… There was threads on here the second it happened

 

 

The media saw it and grilled McDermitt after the game

 

None of that has ever happened again

9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He wasn't fired. He did step away. But he doesn't need to have been fired for your point to be true. When a HC takes over play calling it is usually make or break in whatever way it comes about. 

 

Correct. But some of them will tell you because they saw McDermott holding a call sheet and talking into the headset when the Bills were on defense that he did it multiple times. 

Yeah like every head coach doesn’t have a call sheet lol

 

It was clear as day when it happened versus San Diego and everybody in Buffalo

 

So it’s pretty clear that it didn’t happen again lol

 

 

 

[Einstein]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

So it’s pretty clear that it didn’t happen again lol

 

It’s been clear several times. You not seeing it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

 

In several games, McD has the defense play sheet in his hand and is talking into his head set at pivotal moments of the game. Likely talking to Frazier who then calls the play into the team, ala Reid and Bienemy.

 

90% of the time, McD does not have the play sheet out, nor is he talking into the headset with the play sheet over his mouth. So it’s pretty noticeable when he does do it.

 

But McD realized that after the San Diego game, when he got a lot of flack from the media (including Tony Dungy), for taking over the play calling, he was never going to admit it again.

 

Which gives you plausible deniability.

 

But no. McD absolutely called plays several times. Whether you and Gunner want to admit or not.

 

 

Edited April 20, 2023 by Einstein

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

It’s been clear several times. You not seeing it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

 

In several games, McD had the defense play sheet was talking into his head set at pivotal moments of the game.

 

90% of the time, McD does not have the play sheet out, nor is he talking into the headsets with the play sheet over his mouth.

 

But McD realized that after the San Diego game, when he got a lot of flack from the media (including Tony Dungy), for taking over the play calling, he was never going to admit it again.

 

Which gives you plausible deniability.

 

But no. McD absolutely called plays several times.

I’ve had season tickets for years with great views of McDermott 

 

It was plain as day when he called the plays… Hence why people asked him …. And he actually didn’t get a lot of flak… McDermott brushed it off and says it happens

 

 

Nobody’s asked him again because it hasn’t happened… Jerry Sullivan would ask

 

You’re crazy if you think the lowbrow Buffalo media would not ask that question

Edited April 20, 2023 by Buffalo716

[aristocrat]

We’ve got ourselves a good old fashioned conspiracy. 

[GunnerBill]

13 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

If the only evidence you will accept is McDermott admitting it, then yes there is only evidence of 1 game.

 

No the only evidence I will accept is actual evidence. I know we are in a post-truth age but the meaning of the word evidence hasn't changed. What you have is conjecture based on your interpretation of a tv shot. That, I'm afraid, is not evidence.

[Einstein]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

I’ve had season tickets for years with great views of McDermott 

 

It was plain as day when he called the plays… Hence why people made a big deal out of it

 

Nobody’s asked him again because it hasn’t happened

 

They’ve asked him more than once lol.

 

Your Argument: “trust me bro”

 

No, I don’t trust you. I trust my eyes. Which has a better view of McD on TV than you have at the stadium.

 

90% of the season, there is no play sheet in his hands with him covering his mouth and talking.

 

But at certain times, there are. And it’s clear as day he is calling the plays.

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

It’s been clear several times. You not seeing it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

 

In several games, McD has the defense play sheet in his hand and is talking into his head set at pivotal moments of the game. Likely talking to Frazier who then calls the play into the team, ala Reid and Bienemy.

 

90% of the time, McD does not have the play sheet out, nor is he talking into the headset with the play sheet over his mouth. So it’s pretty noticeable when he does do it.

 

But McD realized that after the San Diego game, when he got a lot of flack from the media (including Tony Dungy), for taking over the play calling, he was never going to admit it again.

 

Which gives you plausible deniability.

 

But no. McD absolutely called plays several times. Whether you and Gunner want to admit or not.

 

 

 

Absolute, utter nonsense. 

[Einstein]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No the only evidence I will accept is actual evidence. I know we are in a post-truth age but the meaning of the word evidence hasn't changed. What you have is conjecture based on your interpretation of a tv shot. That, I'm afraid, is not evidence.

 

So yes, the only evidence you’ll accept is McDermott admitting.

Which will never happen again after the media flack he got for doing it the first time.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

 

They’ve asked him more than once lol.

 

Your Argument: “trust me bro”

 

No, I don’t trust you. I trust my eyes. Which has a better view of McD on TV than you have at the stadium.

 

90% of the season, there is no play sheet in his hands with him covering his mouth and talking.

 

But at certain times, there are. And it’s clear as day he is calling the plays.

 

No it isn't. That is such an incredibly flawed leap in logic as to be utterly ridiculous. Of course McDermott has the call sheet. Of course he looks at it. Like every Head Coach ever. He may even overrule some play calls - again, like every Head Coach ever. But he has only taken over playcalling once.

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

 

So yes, the only evidence you’ll accept is McDermott admitting.

Which will never happen again after the media flack he got for doing it the first time.

 

No I'll accept evidence. You have none. 

[Einstein]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No it isn't. That is such an incredibly flawed leap in logic as to be utterly ridiculous.

 

No more flawed than “McDermott only admitted it once and therefore it must be once”. 

 

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

Of course McDermott has the call sheet. Of course he looks at it. Like every Head Coach ever.

 

Except the majority of the time, he is NOT looking at it. Or putting it over his mouth to talk into the headset. That’s why it’s so odd when he DOES do that. It’s a big difference from his normal. It’s obvious. The camera goes to him. Fans key in on it, because it’s abnormal for him.

 

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

No I'll accept evidence

 

You seem to be confusing “evidence” with “absolute proof”. Evidence is just anything that can be used to point to a hypothesis. Entire cases have been won and lost based on circumstantial evidence, which is evidence that simply shows other facts (like McDermott rarely holding the play sheet over his mouth and talking) but does not in itself prove the hypothesis.

[Thrivefourfive]

This is too much involvement for the HC. I just can’t believe he’s doing this. It wreaks of desperation, ultimatums, ego.. This sort of thing worries me. One guy doing two guys’ jobs is not good to me. 

[teef]

This is outstanding. 

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

No more flawed than “McDermott only admitted it once and therefore it must be once”. 

 

 

Except the majority of the time, he is NOT looking at it. Or putting it over his mouth to talk into the headset. That’s why it’s so odd when he DOES do that. It’s a big difference from his normal. It’s obvious. The camera goes to him. Fans key in on it, because it’s abnormal for him.

 

 

You seem to be confusing “evidence” with “absolute proof”. Evidence is just anything that can be used to point to a hypothesis. Entire cases have been won and lost based on circumstantial evidence, which is evidence that simply shows other facts (like McDermott rarely holding the play sheet over his mouth and talking) but does not in itself prove the hypothesis.

 

No I am not. You have no evidence. Watch every other Head Coach in the NFL with the call sheet. Every single one. Then tell me there is anything out of the ordinary with McDermott. Then and ONLY then do you even have circumstantial evidence. 

 

You don't know what you're talking about.

[Dr. Who]

3 minutes ago, teef said:

This is outstanding. 

I wish @Einstein's Dog would get involved, because I am thinking of writing a groundbreaking monograph on how it was really Einstein's wire fox terrier Chico that wrote the paper on general relativity.

Edited April 20, 2023 by Dr. Who

[Royale with Cheese]

8 minutes ago, teef said:

This is outstanding. 

 

I hope I don't put Einstein over the edge with this....

 

🤣

Edited April 20, 2023 by Royale with Cheese

[Buffalo716]

13 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

No more flawed than “McDermott only admitted it once and therefore it must be once”. 

 

 

Except the majority of the time, he is NOT looking at it. Or putting it over his mouth to talk into the headset. That’s why it’s so odd when he DOES do that. It’s a big difference from his normal. It’s obvious. The camera goes to him. Fans key in on it, because it’s abnormal for him.

 

 

You seem to be confusing “evidence” with “absolute proof”. Evidence is just anything that can be used to point to a hypothesis. Entire cases have been won and lost based on circumstantial evidence, which is evidence that simply shows other facts (like McDermott rarely holding the play sheet over his mouth and talking) but does not in itself prove the hypothesis.

You keep refusing to look at the point that the entire Buffalo media grilled him on it… asked what happened 

 

You forget that the second what happened there was threads here on it…

 

Why Mr. Einstein… Has the press never asked him about it again?

 

Because it didn’t happen… That’s the first question you ask when you see somebody else calling plays

[Aussie Joe]

17 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

So yes, the only evidence you’ll accept is McDermott admitting.

Which will never happen again after the media flack he got for doing it the first time.

What media flack did he get?

 

Couldnt find much on google,

 

There a link here from the Buffalo News which is blocked…all I can read is the headline that says …Tony Dungy was a “ little surprised “.. 

 

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/dungy-little-surprised-mcdermott-took-over-play-calling-in-bills-chargers-game/article_ed6478f0-f537-5bcc-9ff0-9725f5fe5944.html

 

[Malazan]

3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

I'm not liking it at all.  McD's in-game decision making has always been a bit suspect, so I don't like him taking on more responsibilities.  Like the pilots on Air Disasters that crash due to task saturation. 

 

If he's already 'bad' at it and hasn't shown "adequacy" over several years, what leads you to believe that he'd be better at it this upcoming season by continuing to not take on more responsibilities?

[Buffalo716]

59 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

What media flack did he get?

 

Couldnt find much on google,

 

There a link here from the Buffalo News which is blocked…all I can read is the headline that says …Tony Dungy was a “ little surprised “.. 

 

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/dungy-little-surprised-mcdermott-took-over-play-calling-in-bills-chargers-game/article_ed6478f0-f537-5bcc-9ff0-9725f5fe5944.html

 

He Spouts his opinion which can be refuted 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Dr. Who said:

I wish @Einstein's Dog would get involved, because I am thinking of writing a groundbreaking monograph on how it was really Einstein's wire fox terrier Chico that wrote the paper on general relativity.

 

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