NHL Playoffs 2022-2023 Season

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, muppy said:

Game 2 upcoming NHL Stanley Cup Finals.  T-minus an hour give or take.

 

Yeah all Florida teams can go pound sand. GO GOLDEN KNIGHTS 

 

Hopefully some comments post game.

to the bolded black this to me is just smart at this juncture of the season. But bullies will eventually get smacked in the mouth. It's gonna happen mark my words. 

 

Film at 11

In my humble opinion

 

These expansion franchises which Go from brand new to Stanley Cup contenders instantly is terrible

 

The Sabres are one of the proudest franchise in the NHL… 1970… And we’ve Had to go through ***** while expansion teams turn into the contenders overnight

Every five years why not take the lowest standing team and let them do expansion… Because Any GM can build a competent team that way

 

It’s not hard what Vegas did… Any real hockey guy could’ve built that team

 

What’s hard is rebuilding the Sabres… Who we’re good for 15 years straight… Had no people in the pipeline because they’re always playing for now

 

Then when the core leaves… The pipeline is bare because they were always playing for playoff contention… They buy at the deadline

 

Then when we got bad… It was 13 years of futility… Because We had to play 20 year old kids who weren’t ready to play … And by the time they were 25 and ready…. They didn’t re sign with us and we start back at scratch

 

Being a bottom feeder in the NHL… Is almost a continuous cycle… It’s not like football where you could break out in a year or two

 

These expansion teams are on a unfair playing field

 

and **** eichel

[Prospector]

31 minutes ago, muppy said:

Game 2 upcoming NHL Stanley Cup Finals.  T-minus an hour give or take.

 

Yeah all Florida teams can go pound sand. GO GOLDEN KNIGHTS 

 

Hopefully some comments post game.

to the bolded black this to me is just smart at this juncture of the season. But bullies will eventually get smacked in the mouth. It's gonna happen mark my words. 

 

Film at 11

Who are the bullies? The ones cheap shotting and taunting like bullies? Hells yeah they are, let’s send them a fist sandwich for their hard work!!! Go Knights!

20 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

In my humble opinion

 

These expansion franchises which Go from brand new to Stanley Cup contenders instantly is terrible

 

The Sabres are one of the proudest franchise in the NHL… 1970… And we’ve Had to go through ***** while expansion teams turn into the contenders overnight

Every five years why not take the lowest standing team and let them do expansion… Because Any GM can build a competent team that way

 

It’s not hard what Vegas did… Any real hockey guy could’ve built that team

 

What’s hard is rebuilding the Sabres… Who we’re good for 15 years straight… Had no people in the pipeline because they’re always playing for now

 

Then when the core leaves… The pipeline is bare because they were always playing for playoff contention… They buy at the deadline

 

Then when we got bad… It was 13 years of futility… Because We had to play 20 year old kids who weren’t ready to play … And by the time they were 25 and ready…. They didn’t re sign with us and we start back at scratch

 

Being a bottom feeder in the NHL… Is almost a continuous cycle… It’s not like football where you could break out in a year or two

 

These expansion teams are on a unfair playing field

 

and **** eichel

What did the experts say Vegas would finish that year after we got all our players? Last? Second to last? And when the playoffs started, we had no Star players, so the kings should have swept us…. But it’s maybe not that easy. Sounds like you are drinking from the hindsight cup now

Edited June 5, 2023 by Prospector

[muppy]

7 minutes ago, Prospector said:

Who are the bullies? The ones cheap shotting and taunting like bullies? Hells yeah they are, let’s send them a fist sandwich for their hard work!!! Go Knights!

I'll watch for that tonight. either side. I am an interested party with a like of NHL hockey. So while Im rooting for the Vegas team I'm not THAT invested in it. I am  a New Sabres fan.  And as such this series is not raising my blood pressure either way. *shrugs*

 

 

 

Edited June 5, 2023 by muppy

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, Prospector said:

Who are the bullies? The ones cheap shotting and taunting like bullies? Hells yeah they are, let’s send them a fist sandwich for their hard work!!! Go Knights!

What did the experts say Vegas would finish that year after we got all our players? Last? Second to last? And when the playoffs started, we had no Star players, so the kings should have swept us…. But it’s maybe not that easy. Sounds like you are drinking from the hindsight cup now

Absolutely not

 

One of my best friends is a coach in the OHL and he called it with both Seattle and Las Vegas

 

He said both will be playoff contending teams within a season or two… Because they get to pick from a pool of 200 grown man NHL players

 

Not 19-year-old kids who aren’t physically ready… Get forced into playing on bad teams… And by the time they’re physically mature there on a different team

 

Real hockey guys saw this from miles away

 

Those expert you’re talking about Are called pundits and they get paid to take positions… pundits 

 

I doubt you talked to real one hockey scout… Because every guy in the game of hockey I know was been drooling to be the GM of Las Vegas

 

 

Edited June 5, 2023 by Buffalo716

[Prospector]

6 minutes ago, Prospector said:

Who are the bullies? The ones cheap shotting and taunting like bullies? Hells yeah they are, let’s send them a fist sandwich for their hard work!!! Go Knights!

What did the experts say Vegas would finish that year after we got all our players? Last? Second to last? And when the playoffs started, we had no Star players, so the kings should have swept us…. But it’s maybe not that easy. Sounds like you are drinking from the hindsight cup now

 

24 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

In my humble opinion

 

These expansion franchises which Go from brand new to Stanley Cup contenders instantly is terrible

 

The Sabres are one of the proudest franchise in the NHL… 1970… And we’ve Had to go through ***** while expansion teams turn into the contenders overnight

Every five years why not take the lowest standing team and let them do expansion… Because Any GM can build a competent team that way

 

It’s not hard what Vegas did… Any real hockey guy could’ve built that team

 

What’s hard is rebuilding the Sabres… Who we’re good for 15 years straight… Had no people in the pipeline because they’re always playing for now

 

Then when the core leaves… The pipeline is bare because they were always playing for playoff contention… They buy at the deadline

 

Then when we got bad… It was 13 years of futility… Because We had to play 20 year old kids who weren’t ready to play … And by the time they were 25 and ready…. They didn’t re sign with us and we start back at scratch

 

Being a bottom feeder in the NHL… Is almost a continuous cycle… It’s not like football where you could break out in a year or two

 

These expansion teams are on a unfair playing field

 

and **** eichel

I have to quote this again… do you realize how much of our roster has been flipped, including GMs and coaches?! It’s tougher to rebuild after a championship series than anything else, because those players want to get paid. We only have 6 players from that first year and on our 5th goalie this year… give me a flipping break. That’s just showing ineptitude on the Sabres part. 
 

who is the Star player carrying our team? Who is our all star goalie?! We obviously kept half our team from that championship team 6 years ago… or maybe give a little credit to a team with a completely new identity making it back to the finals. 

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Absolutely not

 

One of my best friends is a coach in the OHL and he called it with both Seattle and Las Vegas

 

He said both will be playoff contending teams within a season or two… Because they get to pick from a pool of 200 grown man NHL players

 

Not 19-year-old kids who aren’t physically ready… Get forced into playing on bad teams… And by the time they’re physically mature there on a different team

 

Real hockey guys saw this from miles away

 

Those expert you’re talking about Are called pundits and they get paid to take positions… pundits 

 

I doubt you talked to real one hockey scout… Because every guy in the game of hockey I know was been drooling to be the GM of Las Vegas

 

 

So the Sabres don’t know how free agency or trade work?

[muppy]

26 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

In my humble opinion

 

These expansion franchises which Go from brand new to Stanley Cup contenders instantly is terrible

 

The Sabres are one of the proudest franchise in the NHL… 1970… And we’ve Had to go through ***** while expansion teams turn into the contenders overnight

Every five years why not take the lowest standing team and let them do expansion… Because Any GM can build a competent team that way

 

It’s not hard what Vegas did… Any real hockey guy could’ve built that team

 

What’s hard is rebuilding the Sabres… Who we’re good for 15 years straight… Had no people in the pipeline because they’re always playing for now

 

Then when the core leaves… The pipeline is bare because they were always playing for playoff contention… They buy at the deadline

 

Then when we got bad… It was 13 years of futility… Because We had to play 20 year old kids who weren’t ready to play … And by the time they were 25 and ready…. They didn’t re sign with us and we start back at scratch

 

Being a bottom feeder in the NHL… Is almost a continuous cycle… It’s not like football where you could break out in a year or two

 

These expansion teams are on a unfair playing field

 

and **** eichel

this is as informed a take on this subject that I've read. Interesting really thanks.

 

I googled Jack Eichel after reading of how much beef he has from Sabres fans.  I  learned his GF is from Buffalo .  Yeah okay. Otherwise Eichel he is Old news as far as Im concerned. But I understand the chagrin.  Plus I heard he is a total douche ma**hole. There is that.

 

 

 

🙂

[Prospector]

1 minute ago, muppy said:

this is as informed a take on this subject that I've read. Interesting really thanks.

 

I googled Jack Eichel after reading of how much beef he has from Sabres fans.  I  learned his GF is from Buffalo .  Yeah okay. Otherwise Eichel he is Old news as far as Im concerned. But I understand the chagrin.  Plus I heard he is a total douche ma**hole. There is that.

 

 

 

🙂

Meh, that’s well worded ‘word salad’ for saying the Knights are why the Sabres can’t make a playoff. Which is bogus

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, Prospector said:

 

I have to quote this again… do you realize how much of our roster has been flipped, including GMs and coaches?! It’s tougher to rebuild after a championship series than anything else, because those players want to get paid. We only have 6 players from that first year and on our 5th goalie this year… give me a flipping break. That’s just showing ineptitude on the Sabres part. 
 

who is the Star player carrying our team? Who is our all star goalie?! We obviously kept half our team from that championship team 6 years ago… or maybe give a little credit to a team with a completely new identity making it back to the finals. 

So the Sabres don’t know how free agency or trade work?

You can’t trade for anybody When you don’t have any assets worth trading 

 

And free agents don’t wanna play on a ***** team with high taxes

 

Vegas got Marc-André Fleury out of the get go

 

The Sabres would kill for a goalie of that quality… We’ve had nothing since Ryan Miller left

 

Ullmark was solid but he can’t do it alone…

 

Again The Sabres are bad because they were good for so long and traded away pieces to remain relevant… Once those guys were gone there was never a group to come back

 

And that starts the futility in hockey of you can’t develop and win at the same time

 

Vegas got 26 year old man who had NHL experience… Sprinkled in with some young guys

 

The Sabres have been playing 21 year olds and 22 year olds for a long time… With some washed up veterans and no goaltender sprinkled in

 

The Sabres don’t need an expansion draft to be good now because we’ve been drafting at the bottom for a decade.. 10 years to right the ship!

 

But if they got the chance to do an expansion draft tomorrow… Any competent hockey guy could build an extremely great team within the parameters 

 

 

[muppy]

4 minutes ago, Prospector said:

Meh, that’s well worded ‘word salad’ for saying the Knights are why the Sabres can’t make a playoff. Which is bogus

Piffle. I have no idea what you are talking about. Dream on #Baloney

[Prospector]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

You can’t trade for anybody When you don’t have any assets worth trading 

 

And free agents don’t wanna play on a ***** team with high taxes

 

Vegas got Marc-André Fleury out of the get go

 

The Sabres would kill for a goalie of that quality… We’ve had nothing since Ryan Miller left

 

Ullmark was solid but he can’t do it alone…

 

Again The Sabres are bad because they were good for so long and traded away pieces to remain relevant… Once those guys were gone there was never a group to come back

 

And that starts the futility in hockey of you can’t develop and win at the same time

 

Vegas got 26 year old man who had NHL experience… Sprinkled in with some young guys

 

The Sabres have been playing 21 year olds and 22 year olds for a long time… With some washed up veterans and no goaltender sprinkled in

 

The Sabres don’t need an expansion draft to be good now because we’ve been drafting at the bottom for a decade.. 10 years to right the ship!

 

But if they got the chance to do an expansion draft tomorrow… Any competent hockey guy could build an extremely great team within the parameters 

 

 

Literally after year 3 of the knights, we were flush with assets and the rest of the league. 

2 minutes ago, muppy said:

Piffle. I have no idea what you are talking about. Dream on #Baloney

Not your words, the previous guy. But as a bills fan for the last 30 years, I understand making excuses why other teams have success and we can’t

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Prospector said:

Literally after year 3 of the knights, we were flush with assets and the rest of the league. 

Hockey has more perennial losing franchises than any sport because it’s tough to right the losing ship in hockey

 

Once you do it you will be successful again

 

But it’s extremely hard to right that ship

Edited June 6, 2023 by Buffalo716

[Prospector]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

Hockey has more perennial losing franchises that any sport because it’s tough to write the losing in hockey

But it still happens every year, and with Buffalo being perennial contenders that barely miss the playoffs, it should have been a lot easier for them

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Prospector said:

But it still happens every year, and with Buffalo being perennial contenders that barely miss the playoffs, it should have been a lot easier for them

We’re not perennial contenders that barely missed the playoffs

 

We’ve had top five or 10 draft picks for a decade

 

We’ve been out of the playoff race by January usually

 

Last year was our closest year to making the playoffs in probably a decade

Edited June 6, 2023 by Buffalo716

[Prospector]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

We’re not perennial contenders that barely missed the playoffs

 

We’ve had top five or 10 draft picks for a decade

 

We’ve been out of the playoff race by January usually

 

Last year was our closest year to making the playoffs in probably a decade

It sounds like there are a lot of promising youngsters and added free agents on Buffalo… including a couple previous Knights. Maybe root for the knights and then repeat what we do! I’m a Sabres fan too, but Knights fan first. Just like I’m a Bills fan first and Raiders fan second

[Buffalo716]

12 minutes ago, Prospector said:

It sounds like there are a lot of promising youngsters and added free agents on Buffalo… including a couple previous Knights. Maybe root for the knights and then repeat what we do! I’m a Sabres fan too, but Knights fan first. Just like I’m a Bills fan first and Raiders fan second

How much hockey did you actually watch before you got Vegas?

 

Because it doesn’t seem like you watched much sabers hockey if you thought we were perennially close to being in the playoffs for the last 10 years

 

If you’re just starting to get in the game of hockey great have fun

 

But the Sabres before this decade of impotence… Was a team that made the playoffs 28 out of 39 years 

 

They know how to build hockey teams

 

We just went over a decade with no playoffs for an extremely proud and great franchise 

Edited June 6, 2023 by Buffalo716

[BillsFan4]

So far this series I think Bobrovsky has been out-played by Hill. Seems like Bob is coming back down to earth after looking unreal in the earlier rounds. He’s looked a lot more average the last 2 games.

 

It’s obviously not just in him though. Vegas is taking over the game now. They’ve been the better team tonight for sure. This might be their year!

 

I really don’t care enough about either team to truly care who wins. I’d rather see Reinhart get a Cup over Eichel but I don’t care that much either way. It is a bit weird seeing Reinhart vs. Eichel in a Cup final. Buffalo’s back to back #2 overall picks in 2014 and 2015 now battling each other for the Cup. lol 

[T&C]

Damn... jack got hammered there. Like to the casino next door hammered. Can't stand the mofo but I hope he is alright.

[Prospector]

Just now, T&C said:

Damn... jack got hammered there. Like to the casino next door hammered. Can't stand the mofo but I hope he is alright.

That’s true… almost as hammered as all the pocket books of anyone who bet against Vegas these 1st 2 games…

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

How much hockey did you actually watch before you got Vegas?

 

Because it doesn’t seem like you watched much sabers hockey if you thought we were perennially close to being in the playoffs for the last 10 years

 

If you’re just starting to get in the game of hockey great have fun

 

But the Sabres before this decade of impotence… Was a team that made the playoffs 28 out of 39 years 

 

They know how to build hockey teams

 

We just went over a decade with no playoffs for an extremely proud and great franchise 

But the Sabres before this decade of impotence… Was a team that made the playoffs 28 out of 39 years???

 

wasn’t this exactly what you said the Sabres didn’t do?! I’m confused now, which is easily done

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, Prospector said:

That’s true… almost as hammered as all the pocket books of anyone who bet against Vegas these 1st 2 games…

But the Sabres before this decade of impotence… Was a team that made the playoffs 28 out of 39 years???

 

wasn’t this exactly what you said the Sabres didn’t do?! I’m confused now, which is easily done

 

I said that It’s really hard in the NHL to turn around a perennially losing franchise… Which the Sabres weren’t… until the last 10-12 years

 

The Sabres Had a great stretch from 82-2010 with a few bad years… but from 98-2010 Where they constantly competed and made some runs…. Made them buyers at the trade deadline… Always Trading away prospects for right now NHL players who can help

 

After 10+ years those players retire… And your pool of players to Replace them with… A.k.a. all your good young prospects… Are now traded away to other teams… So you’re left with Nothing good in your farm system

 

So the Sabres collapse started when The core of our franchise left and retired… But we didn’t have adequate players in the minor leagues to replace them with because we traded them to try to keep the run alive

 

It started a 10 year run of drafting 19 year old kids and throwing them into the NHL where they weren’t ready .. And by the time they were ready they didn’t want to keep losing in Buffalo.. so left .. and repeat … So Buffalo has been a perennial loser for the last decade

 

What now makes the Sabres so competitive for the future?

 

They have talent in the NHL at a good age

 

and Their pool of players in Rochester and major junior and D1 are so good 

Having really good players in your farm system continuously is key to NHL success… But when you trade all those guys away and you start losing it becomes a rut… that’s what happened with buffalo

 

then I suggested that the nhl could help losing teams by doing an expansion type draft for the worst team every 5 years … so twice a decade the worst team can rebuild with veterans

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 6, 2023 by Buffalo716

[Nextmanup]

16 minutes ago, T&C said:

Damn... jack got hammered there. Like to the casino next door hammered. Can't stand the mofo but I hope he is alright.

Had his head down. He deserved to be blown up.  My God I love Tkachuk!