Max Fischer Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 "It's a REALLY good question. This team restructures Allen, and does what with it, exactly? Finds a cheap guard? Brings back AJ Klein?" It's NOT a good question. It's very ignorant. - The question/statement implies that Allen restructuring somehow negatively affects his contract. (Hint: it does not) - Restructuring NEVER hurts the best players. Never, ever, never. - This also implies that the Bills did not deliver on something Allen wanted. If so, what exactly? - The media dude is offers zero proof that Allen expected anything in particular that was not delivered. You took it hook line and sinker. - Tell us where the Bills spent poorly? Poyer? Milano? Diggs? White? Knox? Morse? Von Miller? Which one don't you like? 2 3 Quote
GoBills808 Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I mean, even the Chiefs fan knows why this is a dumb question. Cmon, Florio/OP. Most teams can afford a wideout and an edge plus more Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 Just now, whorlnut said: Do you really think Allen is going to say otherwise publicly? Allen and the Bills love Gabe Davis. They love Knox. They love Diggs. From everything I see and hear they love the OL. The guy they signed has a great relationship with Bates. They do have a hole at slot WR for the first time in a long time entering the draft. Last year they had McKenzie and Crowder. I think we’ll see a WR added. This year they have unknowns. They don’t run the ball. I don’t think Josh wants to run the ball. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 18, 2023 Author Posted April 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: "It's a REALLY good question. This team restructures Allen, and does what with it, exactly? Finds a cheap guard? Brings back AJ Klein?" It's NOT a good question. It's very ignorant. - The question/statement implies that Allen restructuring somehow negatively affects his contract. (Hint: it does not) - Restructuring NEVER hurts the best players. Never, ever, never. - This also implies that the Bills did not deliver on something Allen wanted. If so, what exactly? - The media dude is offers zero proof that Allen expected anything in particular that was not delivered. You took it hook line and sinker. - Tell us where the Bills spent poorly? Poyer? Milano? Diggs? White? Knox? Morse? Von Miller? Which one don't you like? Miller. Thought that was a strategic error. I probably wouldn't have brought Poyer back, either. 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: He says: "If I'm Josh Allen, and I'm on a team friendly deal, I'm saying to somebody: 'What the hell are you doing with all the money I left behind? Where's the beef? Why do I not have the help I need?' " It's a REALLY good question. This team restructures Allen, and does what with it, exactly? Finds a cheap guard? Brings back AJ Klein? This draft will tell us what the future's gonna look like. If they blow it (as they have in recent drafts) on defense, I think it's time for Allen to start making noise. And frankly, he has every right to. Allen‘s contract was at fair market value when he signed it and the restructure was for the team’s benefit, so Florio has that wrong. Still, Allen would be justified in asking why he hasn’t been given more help on the offensive side of the ball. He’s right about that. 1 Quote
pocoboy Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: He says: "If I'm Josh Allen, and I'm on a team friendly deal, I'm saying to somebody: 'What the hell are you doing with all the money I left behind? Where's the beef? Why do I not have the help I need?' " It's a REALLY good question. This team restructures Allen, and does what with it, exactly? Finds a cheap guard? Brings back AJ Klein? This draft will tell us what the future's gonna look like. If they blow it (as they have in recent drafts) on defense, I think it's time for Allen to start making noise. And frankly, he has every right to. Florio says whatever he believes will give the Patriots an advantage. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gambit said: Problem with that, didn't Josh ask to have both Brown and Bease back last year? If so, he clearly didn't like the weapons he had. They had injuries and depth concerns at WR. Slot is definitely a spot that can add. Beane said the plan was to split slot between Crowder and McKenzie but they never got the chance. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Most teams can afford a wideout and an edge plus more Right, and looking at the top of our cap spending, we have a top-3 WR, a HoF DE, AND... an All-pro CB, a LT, a Center, 2 DTs, and another top CB. Compared to other teams, all we're missing is another highly touted, highly paid WR2. So maybe one missing piece that Josh (Florio) could ask about. Doesnt seem very news worthy. 1 Quote
Yantha Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 Well, we got Poyer back so there's that. I get what he's trying to point out, but the Bills cap situation was not great to make a splash. LAST offseason was the splash with Von Miller. I think the OL is already better even before the draft and that was arguably the weakest link last season. I expect a rookie or two added.... Not much of a loss at RB and I'd say we have some upside there.... Some interesting adds at WR, and I expect a rookie add. Tremaine Edmunds is OVERPAID by another team, and if we can add an early round rookie that can compete at MLB, I'd say we're in pretty good shape for the season. White HOPEFULLY will be back to 100%, and I've got my fingers crossed for Von Miller by game 7. Quote
MJS Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 The Bills are one of the top teams in the NFL in terms of results and talent. Dumb take. Dumb for Bills fans to entertain this. 2 1 Quote
Success Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 It's like some don't understand the basics of math. What did anyone expect? We had no cap space. Allen & others had to restructure just to be able to retain good players we already have. And it's been a solid FA period, even with that. A good starting guard, 2 good receivers who should get solid playing time, and a running back who everyone here is going to love if he can stay healthy. It makes no sense how anyone thinks we could have had a splashy FA period. Our signings have exceeded my expectations. 3 Quote
FireChans Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 38 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: He says: "If I'm Josh Allen, and I'm on a team friendly deal, I'm saying to somebody: 'What the hell are you doing with all the money I left behind? Where's the beef? Why do I not have the help I need?' " It's a REALLY good question. This team restructures Allen, and does what with it, exactly? Finds a cheap guard? Brings back AJ Klein? This draft will tell us what the future's gonna look like. If they blow it (as they have in recent drafts) on defense, I think it's time for Allen to start making noise. And frankly, he has every right to. They signed a decently priced OL player instantly in FA. 1 Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 I think it's a decent question if the Bills neglect the offense (again) in this draft. Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 Florio’s take isn’t wrong his belief is that you have a coach and GM who are defense first guys it’s just their way… and you have an all world QB who realizes since Beane barring the Diggs trade is reluctant to use high assets to help you. What exactly is your plan here? Since when I have an off game and defense needs to help me they can’t see the bengals game. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Florio’s take isn’t wrong his belief is that you have a coach and GM who are defense first guys it’s just their way… and you have an all world QB who realizes since Beane barring the Diggs trade is reluctant to use high assets to help you. What exactly is your plan here? Since when I have an off game and defense needs to help me they can’t see the bengals game. Defense 1st that throws the football a lot and has one of the highest scoring offenses in the NFL. We can all agree the Beasley replacement didn’t work last year. That’s 1 season. Edited April 18, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote
ALF Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They had injuries and depth concerns at WR. Slot is definitely a spot that can add. Beane said the plan was to split slot between Crowder and McKenzie but they never got the chance. For now they have Khalil Shakir penciled in at slot . 6' 4.43 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 Just now, ALF said: For now they have Khalil Shakir penciled in at slot . 6' 4.43 I doubt he’s penciled in. They don’t operate that way. Not even Gabe Davis was penciled in his 2nd season and he made a lot more plays as a rookie. Quote
GoBills808 Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Right, and looking at the top of our cap spending, we have a top-3 WR, a HoF DE, AND... an All-pro CB, a LT, a Center, 2 DTs, and another top CB. Compared to other teams, all we're missing is another highly touted, highly paid WR2. So maybe one missing piece that Josh (Florio) could ask about. Doesnt seem very news worthy. I think that's the point tho For those interested here's the breakdown: https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills imo it is totally fair to question whether this is a responsible use of the cap re: investing in your offense Quote
GunnerBill Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 45 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: He says: "If I'm Josh Allen, and I'm on a team friendly deal, I'm saying to somebody: 'What the hell are you doing with all the money I left behind? Where's the beef? Why do I not have the help I need?' " It's a REALLY good question. This team restructures Allen, and does what with it, exactly? Finds a cheap guard? Brings back AJ Klein? This draft will tell us what the future's gonna look like. If they blow it (as they have in recent drafts) on defense, I think it's time for Allen to start making noise. And frankly, he has every right to. Except I don't think this draft will tell us anything. Because it is a bad draft. 2 Quote
Andrew Son Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 Maybe they could invest in teaching him to throw a check down 2 Quote
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