Orlando Buffalo Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 7 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Love that you believe the open borders nonsense. It’s the dumbest lie for the dumbest people and you have bitten hook line and sinker. Add in that most of the influx of people are asylum seekers, which makes them legal, not illegal, and it just adds to your ignorance. And so you take all of this idiocy that you believe and use it to justify treating vulnerable people like ***** because it makes you feel good. That’s a lot of justification to avoid recognizing that you’re the bad guy. Please apply the disparaging remarks back at yourself if you think these young men are mostly asylum seekers. Asylum seekers have a strict standard which does not apply to people who just want a better life: Able to demonstrate that you were persecuted or have a fear of persecution in your home country due to your: Race Religion Nationality Social group Political opinion Learn the process of seeking This is not even considering fact asylum seekers should remain in first safe place they can, therefore everyone crossing multiple countries should stop before the US unless you think all the non white countries are not safe 1
Doc Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 7 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Love that you believe the open borders nonsense. It’s the dumbest lie for the dumbest people and you have bitten hook line and sinker. Add in that most of the influx of people are asylum seekers, which makes them legal, not illegal, and it just adds to your ignorance. And so you take all of this idiocy that you believe and use it to justify treating vulnerable people like ***** because it makes you feel good. That’s a lot of justification to avoid recognizing that you’re the bad guy. Everyone and their mother knows to claim "asylum" when they come to the border so they can get in. Only idiots actually believe it. 1 2
Tommy Callahan Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) . In fiscal year 2022, about 46% of people were granted asylum1. In fiscal year 2020, the overall grant rate for all asylum cases closed was 19.12%, but if only grants and denials were considered, the asylum grant rate would be 26%2. In fiscal year 2018, asylum was granted in 16% of cases that originated from a credible fear claim3. In FY 2020, asylum was granted just 26.3% of the time https://www.statista.com/statistics/247064/individuals-granted-asylum-in-the-us-by-country-of-nationality/ https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/judgereports/ the USA asylum grant rate is low with much larger percentage being denied. even in sanctuary cities. Edited October 16, 2023 by Tommy Callahan
ChiGoose Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 I find it interesting that so many people believe that Dems want open borders while the GOP wants to solve the border crisis. Both are lies. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted October 16, 2023 Posted October 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Both are lies. but they together make a false Dilemma, False Dichotomy, false Binary. IE, Propaganda A false dilemma, also referred to as false dichotomy or false binary, is an informal fallacy based on a premise that erroneously limits what options are available. The source of the fallacy lies not in an invalid form of inference but in a false premise. This premise has the form of a disjunctive claim: it asserts that one among a number of alternatives must be true. This disjunction is problematic because it oversimplifies the choice by excluding viable alternatives, presenting the viewer with only two absolute choices when in fact, there could be many. False dilemma - Wikipedia 1
BillsFanNC Posted November 11, 2023 Posted November 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said: Good. Electing communists has consequences. It's going to get much, much worse. 1 1
BillsFanNC Posted November 11, 2023 Posted November 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: It's an absolute mystery how the orange dude can be polling historically high among black and latino voters... I just can't put my finger on it! 1
Doc Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 That's fine. Just make sure they stay in Chicago. 1
B-Man Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 Chicago sings blue-model blues Mayor Rahm Emanuel desperately seeks a way out of the government union trap. Glenn Harlan Reynolds | USA TODAY Around the nation, this year, you can see two phenomena at work: One is the collapse of what Walter Russell Mead calls the “Blue Model” of government, one based on unions, racial/ethnic politics, high regulation and high taxes. The other is the steadily more desperate efforts of Blue Model politicians to keep kicking the can down the road. For starters, look at Rahm Emanuel’s Chicago. Rahm Emanuel, a major inner-circle supporter of both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, is not a stupid man. Nonetheless, he’s finding it harder and harder to hold things together. Right now, Emanuel is facing problems over the police shooting of Laquan McDonald. Video makes it pretty clear that the shooting wasn’t justified, but the city withheld the video until, conveniently enough, after Emanuel had won a sharply-contested election. McDonald’s family received a $5 million settlement (which some have characterized as hush money) and emails obtained by the Chicago Sun-Times last week show that city officials were more interested in managing the news than in getting to the bottom of what happened. Meanwhile, Chicago faces other problems, including a secret jail where prisoners were kept from their lawyers, numerous other instances of police misconduct and racial discrimination and a sinking school system. As Mead, a professor of foreign affairs and the humanities at Bard College, notes, this poses problems for Chicago in more than one way. First, the economic recovery that Chicago and other major cities have experienced in the past couple of decades is likely due at least in part to more aggressive policing that brought crime rates way down. But aggressive policing means more confrontations between police and citizens, which means more chances for violence. Plus, as in most large, Democratic cities, the police and other city workers are unionized and, effectively, almost impossible to fire. As Mead notes, “There is a harsh conflict of interest between the city’s employees and the city’s voters. ... It is in the interests of public sector unions to shelter employees from oversight and threats to their job security, regardless of how well they perform.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/01/03/chicago-rahm-emanuel-blue-cities-reform-puerto-rico-bankruptcy-bailout-column/78228678/ . 1
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