Mister Defense Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, McBean said: Smith-Njigba Going to be a star. Him on Diggs on the same field with Josh Allen throwing to them? Good luck. Yes, I agree that could be the case. But if Allen still has a sieve like line in front of him, and an extremely one dimensional offense, he will still be running for his life against even decent defenses, and forced to play Hero Ball again. Let 's finally do the right thing--and start building a good offensive line, the base of any good offense. To me now, a good receiver is MUCH less important than this, building the foundation of a championship team. Edited April 15, 2023 by Mister Defense 2 Quote
McBean Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: Yes, I agree that could be the case. But if Allen still has a sieve like line in front of him, and an extremely one dimensional offense, he will still be running for his life against even decent defenses, and forced to play Hero Ball again. Let 's finally do the right thing--and start building a good offensive line, the base of any good offense. To me now, a good receiver is MUCH less important than this, building the foundation of a championship team. I can’t argue this one bit. Couldn’t agree more. I would love JSN, but my next “guy” I want is a big, strong, monster, who can protect our star QB. Spencer Brown? He isn’t it. 1 Quote
balln Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, McBean said: Smith-Njigba Going to be a star. Him on Diggs on the same field with Josh Allen throwing to them? Good luck. This should be it’s own thread. 1) Where do we think he’ll be drafted ? 10? What team do we need to move ahead? 2) what will it cost? 3) are we ok w that cost? * I like the OL ahead of JXN talk. I feel y’all. But Allen can play with one atrocious OL ( ideally RT he can see as he drops back) cuz he can run and step up what he can’t deal with is when our IOL (mostly saffold) also gets blown up. feel like jxn is a sure thing while the OL prospects are all not Edited April 15, 2023 by balln 2 Quote
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) Jack Campbell Colonel Drew Sanders Lukas Van Ness Monster Michael Meyers Andrew Voorhees Cody Mauch Joe Tippman Nate Herbig Charlie Jones Jake Bobo Peter Skoronski Dalton Kincaid Edited April 15, 2023 by Sherlock Holmes Quote
JBI$111 Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 I like this guy in the 3rd: https://www.profootballnetwork.com/trey-palmer-wr-nebraska-nfl-draft-scouting-report/ 2 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 15, 2023 Author Posted April 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, JBI$111 said: I like this guy in the 3rd: https://www.profootballnetwork.com/trey-palmer-wr-nebraska-nfl-draft-scouting-report/ that’s a really good one! 4.33 speed. Was hidden at LSU before Nebraska. Maybe QB Coach Joe Brady is familiar with him 1 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, balln said: This should be it’s own thread. 1) Where do we think he’ll be drafted ? 10? What team do we need to move ahead? 2) what will it cost? 3) are we ok w that cost? * I like the OL ahead of JXN talk. I feel y’all. But Allen can play with one atrocious OL ( ideally RT he can see as he drops back) cuz he can run and step up what he can’t deal with is when our IOL (mostly saffold) also gets blown up. feel like jxn is a sure thing while the OL prospects are all not I like everything I’ve seen of JSN, yet his one big year came when he had BOTH Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson drawing the defense’s attention. He was injured this year, so he didn’t have the opportunity to show what he could do with defenses paying more attention to him. Of course, that doesn’t make him a bad prospect, but it is something I wonder about. Still, I’d be happy to take him if he were available. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 A Campbell, Bergeron, C Smith, Mingo B Wright R Rice Henley Pickens C Washington Campbell J Brown Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 I'm all in on Darnell Washington. Don't screw around just take him at #27. I've never believed in this "well he's not worth a first-round pick but if you can get him at 40 then that's good value" nonsense when it comes to draft picks. The guy is athletic and has measurables you can't teach or replicate. Beane has a history of drafting guys in that mold. Allen, Edmunds, Groot, Brown. 1 1 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 8 hours ago, Prospector said: Jalin Hyatt I see a few great route runners with quickness that are ranked higher, but none of them pop of the tape when it comes to speed. If they get open, they don't keep separating. I have watched the 'top 10' WR prospects multiple times these last couple weeks, and the only one that pops off the screen of having absolutely elite speed to separate easily (and against great/fast competition) is Hyatt. If we are looking for a compliment to Diggs, and someone to fit perfect with Josh's homerun aggression, I feel he is the only option in this draft. The other WRs are quick route runners, or jump ball catchers... but I think we need that true deep threat specialist. Hyatt also tracks the deep ball great, and has really good coordination and YAC ability. He would also be our reverse and fly sweep WR. Darnell Washington at #27, trade up to 45-50 and draft Hyatt. Kipers latest mock has Darnell Washington going at #40 and Hyatt going at #55. That would be something coming away with Washington and Hyatt. I'm not sure I see us going Hyatt though because of the Harty signing. Quote
GunnerBill Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Yantha said: I'm going with a late rounder that has been overlooked. I am a big Hutchinson fan. Once you get into that third tier of receivers I think he is the most polished. I'd take him over the more popular names - Mingo, Perry, Scott etc I don't know if there is a single guy in this class that I am like "that guy has to be a Bill." Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Darnell Washington at #27, trade up to 45-50 and draft Hyatt. Kipers latest mock has Darnell Washington going at #40 and Hyatt going at #55. That would be something coming away with Washington and Hyatt. I'm not sure I see us going Hyatt though because of the Harty signing. I'm a big Washington fan. Still think this is early, but you definitely have to trade back from 27 or up from 59. I wouldn't hate the play at 27 depending on whose left on the board. I sort of like Hyatt at 59, so overall I think it is intriguing, though I would be shocked if Beane uses the first two picks on offense. My alternate version with two offense early picks: Dalton Kincaid at 27 (if available) and Matthew Bergeron at 59. Edited April 15, 2023 by Dr. Who Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: Here is my way-too-long response… We need to come out of the 2nd round with 2 of these guys IMO (i personally feel we ought to be trading back if possible): Steve Avila: probably the most versatile G/C in the draft. He can slot in the middle seamlessly and if this is the last year with Morse he can take over under center for the next decade. His ability to Swiss Army knife into the line makes him super appealing and fits the Beane mold he values in OL flexibility. Run to the podium if he somehow makes it to 59. Jack Campbell: I have Simpson graded higher, but Campbell checks a lot of the right boxes and can tackle well. There is the Keuchly connection too, so there’s that. Sanders is fine too but I worry about his tackling. John Micheal Schmitz: Best Center in the draft, but that’s going to be his one and only spot. If we get him somehow he might kick to guard for a year at most while we have Morse, but he is at his best in the middle of that line and is absolutely a McDermott kind of guy. Cody Mauch: I like him enough to take him at 59, but not any higher at all. Kick him inside and he will be great, but I’m not sold on him as a tackle. He has all the tools to be successful in the league though Keeanu Benton: Big hulking DT (who is also a wrestler, so McDermott already sold on him) who stuffs the run and is a force to be reckoned with. Admittedly not the best at getting after the QB, but in the 2nd he’s an excellent pick. **3rd Round - one or two depending on trade back AT Perry: A bigger possession WR who can line up in any spot on the field and be effective. I think he struggles with contact a little bit and separation isn’t where I’d like it to be, but he can contribute day 1. I see him starting as 3/4 on the depth chart and moving up from there. Expecting more of him so early isn’t realistic but I think he gets there after a year or two. Jonathan Mingo: Tall RAC machine. I feel like a lot of the bigger names are going to be gone in those first 2 rounds, and I don’t think we should go too far out of our way for a quality WR if we can avoid it. Mingo in the 3rd is going to prove to be well worth the slight reach - I have an early 4th round grade on him, but he’s not lasting to the end of the round IMO. This might be a little reach, but not an overreach if you get my meaning. Sydney Brown: He’s one of my favorite Safety options in the draft, and a 3 down player. Versatile as heck, and was a 5 year starter in college. He’s going to be good, and sitting behind Po and Hyde is going to help him get that much better. Now, that said, is he needed *now* to win *now* is the question. We have our Safeties, we have a possible returning Hamlin and Benford could make the move to Saftey as well. If we go BPA and he is in there, he’s the pick. I could see him go in the 2nd if the stars align possibly (though unlikely) Sam LaPorta: TE with good hands, routes and Measurables. He’s going to be damn good in my eyes, but I think he goes a little before before 91. While he blocks, sometimes he doesn’t block for long, so that’s the knock I have on him. Depending how the other picks Tre’Vius Hodges Tomlinson: 3rd/borderline 4th rounder. He overcommits sometimes but I think that is coachable. He’s met with the Bills and I think the interest is real, but you can’t coach size and at 5’9” he’s going to have challenges. I’m fine with him at 91, but could see him fall as low as 130. If he somehow makes it to 130 I don’t see how you could possibly pass him up. *Fourth or Later* Zack Kuntz: Monster TE, athletic as all hell, and has a massive catch radius. Get him blocking a little lower and he’d be a 3rd rounder. Could see him 4th or 5th round. Pick 130 sounds fair, but I could see someone reach for him earlier than that. That someone could even be us given his athleticism. Luke Schoonmaker: Another TE, another 4th or 5th round pick. TE is deep in this draft, and I think he’s a good TE2. I think Kuntz is the more intriguing prospect but for a 5th rounder he’s going to live up to or exceed his draft expectations. Andrew Voorhis: he’s not contributing this year with his combine injury, but I really like him and think he’s going to be good in this league. Obviously if we are picking for need he would be lower on the priority list, but he’s very interesting to consider at 137. Mohammad Ibrahim: This guy is going to be Motor 2.0 - get him with pick 205 and let him do his thing. Low risk high reward. I don’t like any RB not named Robinson before the 5th round. Adding to your Campbell and Kuechly comment, I saw this D&C article. Didn't realize he is also close with Ike and AJE. More connections than I realized. More pieces to the puzzle. 😁 https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2023/04/10/buffalo-bills-draft-prospects-can-jack-campbell-fill-a-need-at-linebacker/70089980007/ Edited April 15, 2023 by LyndonvilleBill Spelling Quote
whorlnut Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: Adding to your Campbell and Kuechly comment, I saw this D&C article. Didn't realize he is also close with Ike and AJE. More connections than I realized. More pieces to the puzzle. 😁 https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2023/04/10/buffalo-bills-draft-prospects-can-jack-campbell-fill-a-need-at-linebacker/70089980007/ You mean like last year when Christian Kirk went on vacation with Allen and we all thought it would lead to the bills signing him? Imo this doesn’t mean anything at all. Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: You mean like last year when Christian Kirk went on vacation with Allen and we all thought it would lead to the bills signing him? Imo this doesn’t mean anything at all. I get it. Just like Von and OBJ. But, either way, I think the Bills could have more information in house as it relates to Campbell. Don't spoil it for me! I still have 12 days to dream. 😜 1 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 Flowers and draft day trade for Hopkins. Also a TE as well. Load up the weapons baby. we have acquired three G’s in FA, so although still important. it can be a little later in the draft. 1 Quote
LEBills Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 Matthew Bergeron AT Perry Tank Dell Dylan Horton Yasir Abdullah Quote
Kaenon Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) Mazi Smith, Jack Campbell, a good OL, and Rashee Rice Edited April 15, 2023 by Kaenon Spelling Quote
Buffalo Boy Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 Somebody who starts day 1 and plays better than whoever played the position last year. 1 Quote
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