DO NOT DRAFT!

[OldTimer1960]

Seconding Dawand Jones - lacks quickness and weight concerns (would not even weigh in at pro day).

 

Seconding Boutte - lack of production after big first year, less than stellar athletic testing and rumored to not have best attitude and work-ethic ( I know rumors aren’t fair and we don’t have any way to know).

 

Add Jaelan Duncan before late round 3 - really disappointed in lack of aggressiveness I saw when watching him block - hard to fix that in spite of his athleticism.

[RyanC883]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

The guys that are true "do not draft" guys are rubbish late round possibles that I don't think can play.

 

The biggest consensus day 1 or 2 name that I would not draft in the first 3 rounds is Dawand Jones. 

 

If he slipped to round 4, sure I'd take a chance on the size. But he will go at latest round 3 and I wouldn't take him.

 

 

I’m more worried about the OT from Oklahoma, seems he needs another year to be ready.  I think Jones may fit here due to his athletic ability that goes well with a running/mobile QB.  Not my top OT choice and may prefer a G/C like Avila over him.  

 

 

[NeverOutNick]

48 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't think they are picking OL in the first two rounds either. 

 

I do, however, think they will pick a receiver. When the Bills have so many guys at a position in for pre-draft meetings they generally draft that position early. Not saying I know who, but I expect one of our first two picks to be receiver and the other to be a defensive player.

I hope they go OL early. We spend too much time developing later round o lineman that most of the time don’t pan out. Dawkins is getting older and more expensive, Morse I’m sure is retiring soon and Brown is a huge question mark. Protecting Josh is priority one imo and even if Brown turns out to be amazing I’d still be happy we took an O lineman early for depth and for the future. 

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I’m more worried about the OT from Oklahoma, seems he needs another year to be ready.  I think Jones may fit here due to his athletic ability that goes well with a running/mobile QB.  Not my top OT choice and may prefer a G/C like Avila over him.  

 

 

Harrison might need a year before you see the best of him but he has some real technique. Jones is just big. Doesn't understand where his hands are or his fert are. That type almost never translates.

[McBean]

17 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Defense is not irrelevant.  That’s just stupid.
 

we scored 10 points vs Cinci-  was their D irrelevant?

 

the chiefs held the jags and Cinci to 20 points in the playoffs.  
 

Defense matters-  but having stars at every defensive position isn’t necessary to have a great D.  A great scheme and play calling can make up for some lack of star power.  
 

I pray we draft O with our first pick along with either our 2nd or 3rd pick. 
 

but saying defense is irrelevant is just about the most ignorant thing I’ve read in awhile.  And that’s saying a lot for as much as I read this board. 
 

SB losers scored:

2019- 3

2020- 20

2021- 9

2022- 20

 

 

Irrelevant in the sense we should be striving to hold teams under 20 ppg.

 

I should’ve said, If it came down to taking a player with the goal of bettering defense or improving offense, you go offense right now with this team.

 

Line stinks, one weapon in Diggs, and everybody else is just a guy.

 

Trade up for JSN or take Addison if he falls. If neither are available, get a big person to play RT because Spencer brown sure as heck can’t.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

I hope they go OL early. We spend too much time developing later round o lineman that most of the time don’t pan out. Dawkins is getting older and more expensive, Morse I’m sure is retiring soon and Brown is a huge question mark. Protecting Josh is priority one imo and even if Brown turns out to be amazing I’d still be happy we took an O lineman early for depth and for the future. 

 

I do too. But I don't think they are.

[BuffaloBill]

1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said:

Honestly if I don’t see an O linemen in the first 2 rounds drafted I’ll be pretty pissed. Other than that I’ll have a cooler head depending on the player lol

 

It is unusual to take IOL in first two rounds. However, I could see the Bills go with WR in 1st and IOL in second given the need and the fact the Bills choose late in rounds.  Who knows, the team will always proclaim they had a “great draft.”

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

Considering how weak this class is, you almost have to trade down into the 2nd. Use your 2nd and 3rd round picks on MLB, OT, WR, DT.

[Simon Says]

1 hour ago, Rigotz said:

Something about Jordan Addison doesn’t feel right. With that slender frame, I think he’s gonna get pushed around at the NFL level and be a 3rd WR at best.

Webster Slaughter ,Davonte Smith ,Dede Westbrook, DeSean Jackson, and many more skinny WRs did okay in the NFL.

Edited April 14, 2023 by Herb Nightly

[OldTimer1960]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

It is unusual to take IOL in first two rounds. However, I could see the Bills go with WR in 1st and IOL in second given the need and the fact the Bills choose late in rounds.  Who knows, the team will always proclaim they had a “great draft.”

 

 

Mostly true in round 1, IOL are not uncommon in round 2.

[947]

Any of the midget WRs who are primarily slot guys being projected in the 20s-30s. If one slides to the 3rd, sure. But we don't need another midget badly enough to draft one early.

[gonzo1105]

O'Cyrus Torrence

Any of the LB's at 27

Luke Musgrave

Brian Branch (not because the player is bad but because I don't think he is that much better than the guys you can get in round 2-4)

[NeverOutNick]

8 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said:

Webster Slaughter ,Davonte Smith ,Dede Westbrook, DeSean Jackson, and many more skinny WRs did okay in the NFL.

Man if you could guarantee Addison would be Devonte Smith I’d be all in but Smith is a different breed 

13 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

It is unusual to take IOL in first two rounds. However, I could see the Bills go with WR in 1st and IOL in second given the need and the fact the Bills choose late in rounds.  Who knows, the team will always proclaim they had a “great draft.”

 

 

My ideal draft would be if Wright fell to 27, everyone in the league got scare or Flowers arm length and we get him round 2 and then in round 3 one of the top 3 LBers everyone loved falls to us. But that’s just me in fantasy land lol

[NickelCity]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

Get ready to be pissed.  I think Beane feels he’s already fortified the O-line in FA and they like Spencer Brown at RT.  I am steeling myself for MLB and DT/Edge with the first two picks, not necessarily in that order.

 

Yep, that'd piss me off alright. 

[Einstein's Dog]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Statistically we should expect WR to be the first pick and not much focus on LB or OL.

 

I would also just about guarantee we will draft a TE at some point considering we've been connected to so many TE prospects.

Small sample size.  But WR would be exciting, means the FO has identified a fit.  And while not much focus on LB it seems a glaring need.

 

To the OP, my DO NOT DRAFT is B Robinson.  No RB in the first for me please.  Maybe round 4 that R Johnson.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Anyone that some Southern drawling, tobacco juice drooling rube deems a 'bell cow'. 
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[SCBills]

I don’t think I could stomach LB at 27.  
 

And if we don’t take a LB at 27, there’s probably only about a 25% chance someone who isn’t a JAG in the mix with Bernard/Dodson/Spector is available at 59.  
 

So, I’m pretty much leaning towards DO NOT DRAFT A LB.

 

[Dr. Who]

15 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Anyone that some Southern drawling, tobacco juice drooling rube deems a 'bell cow'. 
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I'd answer you with proper vigor, but I'm rather busy looking for a spittoon to eradicate some chaw just now.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

The “do not draft” lists are worthless ever since the 2018 draft.

 

that said, I’m still basically anti-running back in the first round no matter what.
 

[Not at the table Karlos]

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I could, of course be wrong, but I hope they don’t draft:

- Quentin Johnston - concerned about hands

- Bijon Robinson/Jahmyr Gibbs - RB too dependent on OL and won’t commit to running enough to justify.

- Brian Branch - most his experience is at sot corner, might be great S, but lesser priority position.

I remember watching some of his videos and going back and trying to find a ball that he didn't let into his body. It took a long time to find one.