somnus00 Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 This team needs front 7 help. Fact. Even though we've gone edge multiple times recently. I like the dline prospects more than the top LBs or WRs in this year's draft. 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 Of course they did, it’s what all the cool kids are doing…. Quote
Yantha Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 2 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: So I slammed them hard in live chat about going Edge in round 1 and ignoring ILB in early rounds. But... Listening to them talk about going Edge in round 1. They do make sense though I still disagree. I am hoping I am right about going Edge round 1 is a horrible decision but maybe someone here can prove me wrong? here is the link. Okay, I don't like it either but I'll try to justify that direction. Again, I don't agree with it.... Argument 1: The Eagles and Chiefs were the TOP TWO teams in sacks during the regular season. Interesting. Where did the Bills land? SIXTEENTH. Also interesting. Argument 2: Von Miller is old and injured. Not a good combination heading into a new season. And when he returns, will be 100? And effective? How many games will he be able to play? 16? 8? Argument 3: Miller's backup (slated to be the starter until Miller can return from injury) is Epenesa? Basham? Are we good with that? That's all I got..... but if we do "the unthinkable" and pick DE Van Ness, for example...... think about Argument 1-3..... 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 You will never go broke drafting pass rushers. Perfectly fine with this. 2 1 Quote
Yantha Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You will never go broke drafting pass rushers. Perfectly fine with this. Argument 4: It's always nice to see opposing QB's on their back. Especially Mahomes, and Burrow. 2 Quote
BBFL Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brandon said: Aaron Maybin was probably the most obvious bust I've ever seen the Bills take over the last 30+ years. It's a classic example of why a team shouldn't reach for a player just based on high positional value. Never liked the pick but positionally I don’t even think it was that bad of a choice… We were still in Trent Edwards infancy and had a decent run game to assist… Schobel and Kelsey were both the only real options entering that off season, the former ended up retiring after Maybin’s rookie year. To boot, Maybin didn’t do too bad in limited use his Freshman year at Penn State and his Sophomore year wasn’t bad by any standard for an edge player. The problem was the high risk, high reward. After Maybin there was only one player, going by positional selection, who panned out. And that was Orakpo; who actually had very similar stats the year of draft declaration. Its always a combination of both the player and the coaching they come into. Saw an interview with Maybin in his studio apartment a few years back where he was talking about his real passion being the arts. That, if anything, played the biggest part to his failure. He got paid and didn’t have the need or desire to play football. Can’t hit every pick on the head. Edited April 8, 2023 by BBFL 1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Yantha said: Okay, I don't like it either but I'll try to justify that direction. Again, I don't agree with it.... Argument 1: The Eagles and Chiefs were the TOP TWO teams in sacks during the regular season. Interesting. Where did the Bills land? SIXTEENTH. Also interesting. Argument 2: Von Miller is old and injured. Not a good combination heading into a new season. And when he returns, will be 100? And effective? How many games will he be able to play? 16? 8? Argument 3: Miller's backup (slated to be the starter until Miller can return from injury) is Epenesa? Basham? Are we good with that? That's all I got..... but if we do "the unthinkable" and pick DE Van Ness, for example...... think about Argument 1-3..... I get what you are saying but I see it differently when it comes to Von. I actually don't want him to start the season. I hope he starts later, gets into the form by the end of the season and peaks in PO. Less (fewer?) games he plays lower the chance he gets injured. I want us for once to have a different season. Let's start with lot of question marks, with some losses to tough teams, and get it together when it matters. Von's injury could be blessing in disguise in this respect (I mean for the next season, it wasn't one for the last). I am perfectly fine with drafting edge if he is clearly a BPA though. Edited April 8, 2023 by No_Matter_What Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) Edge rusher my goodness this is just lazy reporting why not just go running back as well. How many more high picks does a defense need to suck in the clutch? Here Josh even though you are the franchise here’s an ok guard and two mediocre receivers now watch as we go defensive end again. Edited April 8, 2023 by 78thealltimegreat Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 With poyer returning and Bernard moving up, Edge is the greatest need. Bring in Nolan smith 1 Quote
nosejob Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Yantha said: Okay, I don't like it either but I'll try to justify that direction. Again, I don't agree with it.... Argument 1: The Eagles and Chiefs were the TOP TWO teams in sacks during the regular season. Interesting. Where did the Bills land? SIXTEENTH. Also interesting. Argument 2: Von Miller is old and injured. Not a good combination heading into a new season. And when he returns, will be 100? And effective? How many games will he be able to play? 16? 8? Argument 3: Miller's backup (slated t o be the starter until Miller can return from injury) is Epenesa? Basham? Are we good with that? That's all I got..... but if we do "the unthinkable" and pick DE Van Ness, for example...... think about Argument 1-3..... This could also, at least mostly, apply to Dhop as well. Bringing him in praying for Lofton while kicking the can might not be very wise either. Quote
Yawning Frog Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 4 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: So I slammed them hard in live chat about going Edge in round 1 and ignoring ILB in early rounds. But... Listening to them talk about going Edge in round 1. They do make sense though I still disagree. I am hoping I am right about going Edge round 1 is a horrible decision but maybe someone here can prove me wrong? here is the link. I take all these mock drafts with a grain of salt. Just plain speculation and mostly bs. Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted April 8, 2023 Author Posted April 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Yawning Frog said: I take all these mock drafts with a grain of salt. Just plain speculation and mostly bs. I would not call this BS. I could see us taking many of these picks in these rounds... that being said... Of COURSE.. I take it with a grain of salt. I try and keep Cover 1 chats fun by throwing fits when I do not agree with something lol Quote
JerseyBills Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 I mean if we can get a difference maker, grab him. Any position but CB because we're stacked with talent. Even a S if he has to sit a year behind Hyde I'd be fine with. Just grab the most impactful player 1 Quote
Yawning Frog Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: I would not call this BS. I could see us taking many of these picks in these rounds... that being said... Of COURSE.. I take it with a grain of salt. I try and keep Cover 1 chats fun by throwing fits when I do not agree with something lol maybe 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Brandon said: Aaron Maybin was probably the most obvious bust I've ever seen the Bills take over the last 30+ years. It's a classic example of why a team shouldn't reach for a player just based on high positional value. Facts. NOBODY wanted Maybin. Orakpo was the consensus pick for 90% of fans on the Bills forums. Stupid stupid pick. At least Whitner went on to have a decent career. 1 Quote
Bookie Man Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 Edge is sneaky need. Who are we banking on? 34 year old Von coming off of ACL surgery? Rousseau to make a huge leap. AJE and Boogie are definition of JAG. This defense becomes extremely soft without a rush. No more Frazier, this is McDs defense this year. He is going to want to put his stamp on it. 1st pick is definitely defense imo. ILB is a more glaring need but edge is not far behind at all. 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 6 hours ago, The Wiz said: What's another edge rusher in the top two rounds? Keep em coming and they will eventually hit on one of them. They're bound to accidentally run into a good one after 8-10 picks. 1 Quote
JaCrispy Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 I like this pick better than Addison- get top value in the 1st and then a WR later 👍 Quote
Simon Says Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 3 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: With poyer returning and Bernard moving up, Edge is the greatest need. Bring in Nolan smith Who said Bernard is "moving up"? I think there is little chance he can,or even will, replace Edmunds. 1 1 Quote
JaCrispy Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 3 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: With poyer returning and Bernard moving up, Edge is the greatest need. Bring in Nolan smith This could be a really fun idea…👍 1 Quote
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