New stadium cost goes up from $1.4 billion to $1.54 billion.

[Buffalo Super Fan]

11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I really don’t get all the complaining on here. Before the site was chosen and the design work started there were people who wanted a dome and those that didn’t. Now that it’s set it seems like they’ve provided fans with a choice. You can buy seats under the cover or you can sit out in the elements. What the heck do people want? 

There was no real choice most can’t afford the higher prices of the canopy seats. That is the Buffalo Bills organization out of touch when everyone would be warm with a dome stadium. That is the whole point the media doesn’t care they are in a warm press box. The government politicians don’t care there in a covered luxury box of the wealthy as guest. The owner certainly doesn’t care and the well to do area business elites of Western New York are in there luxury box all on the taxpayers dime who have two choices stay home and not freeze or freeze in the cheap seats which will cost a whole lot more with no covering some deal those Buffalo Bills are getting. The Buffalo Bills did this too themselves and I am shocked actually that Terry Pegula chose to go that route with the backlash that has come with it. Tells me he don’t care and is phony too in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[mrags]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Well he goes to college full time so no he don’t work full time but it’s a good chunk of his money lol

Yup. I bet it’s his everything too. Like most season ticket holders. Was for me when first started going to game. When I started as a ST holder. Now I enjoy it but for different reasons. I’m gonna love out these last few years at the Ralph and see what happens. I wish we had until it was built to make a decision going forward but I’m sure they will start this spring/summer looking for PSL money for the new stadium. 

[Buffalo Super Fan]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Because they steal our money

Yes bingo no more callers we have a winner for the money Western New York is paying for this stadium it’s a complete joke it doesn’t have a dome in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

18 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Everything is going to keep going up. Probably will climb to $1.8 billion or more by the time it's completed.

Imagine 5 years ago I told you they’d build a $1.8 billion stadium in the parking lot across the street and it’s open air. 😂

[mrags]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:

There was no real choice most can’t afford the higher prices of the canopy seats. That is the Buffalo Bills organization out of touch when everyone would be warm with a dome stadium. That is the whole point the media doesn’t care they are in a warm press box. The government politicians don’t care there in a covered luxury box of the wealthy as guest. The owner certainly doesn’t care and the well to do area business elites of Western New York are in there luxury box all on the taxpayers dime who have two choices stay home and not freeze or freeze in the cheap seats which will cost a whole lot more with no covering some deal those Buffalo Bills are getting. The Buffalo Bills did this too themselves and I am shocked actually that Terry Pegula chose to go that route with the backlash that has come with it. Tells me he don’t care and is phony too in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

Hard to argue with any of this. 

[Buffalo Super Fan]

20 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Everything is going to keep going up. Probably will climb to $1.8 billion or more by the time it's completed.

Yet still no dome stadium while Indianapolis Colts and Detroit Lions fans are nice and warm in a dome. Some Buffalo Bills fans can’t stand Buffalo being the but of jokes over the years but this is ok that we are? With this new Bills stadium not having a dome? The Buffalo Bills look ridiculous and backwards more than anything the Buffalo Bills did on the field or Buffalo fans did in general in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:

Yet still no dome stadium while Indianapolis Colts and Detroit Lions fans are nice and warm in a dome. Some Buffalo Bills fans can’t stand Buffalo being the but of jokes over the years but this is ok that we are? With this new Bills stadium not having a dome? The Buffalo Bills look ridiculous and backwards more than anything the Buffalo Bills did on the field or Buffalo fans did in general in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

You’re got to be kidding, right? Just to name a few off the top of my head…New England, New York, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Chicago, Baltimore, etc all have relatively new facilities and NONE of them are indoors or have ANY sort of roof whatsoever. And all of those are in the northeast. Buffalo is definitely NOT going to look ridiculous or backwards. Come on, “Super Fan”!

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Question. If fans had a choice would they have chosen a renovation and no PSL’s at $900 million or what we’re getting at $1.6 billion and PSL’s that could be more? 
 

I should add that a renovation would mean playing games elsewhere for 2-3 years.

Edited April 11, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[mrags]

7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You’re got to be kidding, right? Just to name a few off the top of my head…New England, New York, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Chicago, Baltimore, etc all have relatively new facilities and NONE of them are indoors or have ANY sort of roof whatsoever. And all of those are in the northeast. Buffalo is definitely NOT going to look ridiculous or backwards. Come on, “Super Fan”!

In fairness. None of them have the kind of weather we do. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You’re got to be kidding, right? Just to name a few off the top of my head…New England, New York, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Chicago, Baltimore, etc all have relatively new facilities and NONE of them are indoors or have ANY sort of roof whatsoever. And all of those are in the northeast. Buffalo is definitely NOT going to look ridiculous or backwards. Come on, “Super Fan”!

Buffalo has the worst weather in league by far, there’s no comparison. 
 

Let me also say this stadium is going to be gorgeous and state of the art. Nothing embarrassing about it. I just think they should’ve gone all in and built it right. $200 million is a lot of money added for a dome  but over 50 years for an NFL team it’s a small amount.

 

 

[Breakout Squad]

I’m still impressed the Colts built Lucas Oil stadium for under 1 billion dollars. Pegula should’ve built a stadium when he first bought the team. They could’ve built this same stadium for $700 million. A domed stadium probably for $1 billion. Unfortunately stadiums are so damned expensive to build now. 

[SoCal Deek]

10 minutes ago, mrags said:

In fairness. None of them have the kind of weather we do. 

Oh for heaven’s sake! Do you think I’m a Bills fan that was born in raised in California? I sat through many a foul weather game at the Rockpile and Rich Stadium. The weather is what is and always has been. For the majority of the games, the weather is just fine. And as I’ve said, if you don’t like it, then make sure to buy seats under the roof…DONE!!

[mrags]

17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Oh for heaven’s sake! Do you think I’m a Bills fan that was born in raised in California? I sat through many a foul weather game at the Rockpile and Rich Stadium. The weather is what is and always has been. For the majority of the games, the weather is just fine. And as I’ve said, if you don’t like it, then make sure to buy seats under the roof…DONE!!

Wasn’t my argument. The point was none of those cities/stadiums had the kind of weather issues that Buffalo has. 
 

the argument was in regards to pricing the average fan out of the stadium if they wanted to be under cover. Which will likely happen. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

18 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:

I’m still impressed the Colts built Lucas Oil stadium for under 1 billion dollars. Pegula should’ve built a stadium when he first bought the team. They could’ve built this same stadium for $700 million. A domed stadium probably for $1 billion. Unfortunately stadiums are so damned expensive to build now. 

It’s unreal the cost of this thing. There was a stadium report released in 2015 and one in 2021. The prices nearly doubled. Basically the same report. Back in 2015 the general thought was we’d never be able to build a billion dollar stadium. 

 

I don’t understand why they didn’t build one back then. I wonder if it was because the team was bad and possibly not secure in Buffalo? If the Pegulas planned on owning the team forever in Buffalo why didn’t they get this done?

 

The stadium they’re building now would’ve cost around $600 million to build. Just imagine, had they got this approval in 2015, opening season would’ve been Josh Allen’s rookie year.

[mrags]

18 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

It’s unreal the cost of this thing. There was a stadium report released in 2015 and one in 2021. The prices nearly doubled. Basically the same report. Back in 2015 the general thought was we’d never be able to build a billion dollar stadium. 

 

I don’t understand why they didn’t build one back then. I wonder if it was because the team was bad and possibly not secure in Buffalo? If the Pegulas planned on owning the team forever in Buffalo why didn’t they get this done?

 

The stadium they’re building now would’ve cost around $600 million to build. Just imagine, had they got this approval in 2015, opening season would’ve been Josh Allen’s rookie year.

100% the reason. 

[Augie]

36 minutes ago, mrags said:

Wasn’t my argument. The point was none of those cities/stadiums had the kind of weather issues that Buffalo has. 
 

the argument was in regards to pricing the average fan out of the stadium if they wanted to be under cover. Which will likely happen. 

 

I’m not arguing any particular point, but I’m just here to say I’ve lived in both Cincinnati and Buffalo for extended periods. Buffalo may have its snow events, but it can get SERIOUSLY cold in Cincinnati. Bitter, BITTER cold. 

[LabattBlue]

3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Nope. I mentioned because many on here have no idea what it costs build things these days. We have local school construction bonds that regularly exceed $1 Billion…and that’s not for anything more than a single suburban school district. Yikes…right? 

Thanks. And you obviously know it costs close to $100 just for a parking spot at SoFi. Wait until people see the increase in Orchard Park! 

It was reported a couple of weeks back that design costs for the new stadium were upwards of $180 mil. Would love to hear your thoughts on this number?

[purple haze]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The canopy got bigger at least. Almost there.

Where did you see this info?

[SoCal Deek]

12 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

It was reported a couple of weeks back that design costs for the new stadium were upwards of $180 mil. Would love to hear your thoughts on this number?

That seems high based strictly on the recently reported construction cost. Typically a/e design costs would be somewhere around 7.0% for a project of this size. The higher the construction cost, the lower the percentage. This is generally true for all types of projects (residential, commercial, institutional, etc.)

[purple haze]

3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Nope. I mentioned because many on here have no idea what it costs build things these days. We have local school construction bonds that regularly exceed $1 Billion…and that’s not for anything more than a single suburban school district. Yikes…right? 

Thanks. And you obviously know it costs close to $100 just for a parking spot at SoFi. Wait until people see the increase in Orchard Park! 

I sure do.  I found parking on the street when I went to Bills/Rams in September.   I’d rather walk a bit than blow a $100 to be hemmed in after the game.  
 

Went to Bills/Rams at the Coliseum when Rex was coach.  Spent $300 or so to sit 12 rows up, behind the Bills bench at the 40 yard line.  At SoFi I spent almost $700 to sit 11 rows up in the end zone.  That’s showbiz.