New stadium cost goes up from $1.4 billion to $1.54 billion.

[OZBILLS]

Did they add a dome?

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I'll go one further.

 

Bills fans used to make fun of other stadiums where the stadium was filled with opposing fans.

 

That could now happen in Buffalo as Bills fans try sell their tickets to recoup the high cost of season tickets and PSLs.

Why would you buy tickets Just to sell them ? 
 

Yeah there’s brokers who by five season tickets and sell three of them

 

But if you’re a fan who wants to go…. Why would you purchase season tickets.. Just to turn around and sell them all

[mrags]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Nope. I mentioned because many on here have no idea what it costs build things these days. We have local school construction bonds that regularly exceed $1 Billion…and that’s not for anything more than a single suburban school district. Yikes…right? 

Thanks. And you obviously know it costs close to $100 just for a parking spot at SoFi. Wait until people see the increase in Orchard Park! 

Yup. Added into the PSLs, the increase of ticket prices. Then you go ahead and add up the parking and concession increases. They are definitely attempting to price out the drunken idiots that just want to go and get smashed for games. 
 

I have no doubt the Bills will or at least will attempt to buy some of the local lots that people tailgate in now. Massively increase prices and have stricter rules while tailgating. Even if they manage to buy 1-2 of the bigger private lots and increase prices that will make it a no brainer for the other private lots to follow suit and charge more. 

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

fans won't. But companies will. Say you had tickets in the lower bowl for 30 years and you want the same ones in the replica across the street? Now you will have to pay a $5,000 PSL. MANY fans just aren't gonna do that.

 

Companies will pay the PSL, buy up their seats just to split them up and sell on secondary marketplaces to opposing fans

 

 

 

 

I’ve already crunch the numbers for you

 

And there’s plenty of people who already said they will be willing to buy PSLs

The $5000 PSL at the new bills stadium would be 15 grand at MetLife

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

17 minutes ago, OZBILLS said:

Did they add a dome?

The canopy got bigger at least. Almost there.

 

The anger that’s coming when fans find out they’re paying double and still wet. 

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, mrags said:

Yup. Added into the PSLs, the increase of ticket prices. Then you go ahead and add up the parking and concession increases. They are definitely attempting to price out the drunken idiots that just want to go and get smashed for games. 
 

I have no doubt the Bills will or at least will attempt to buy some of the local lots that people tailgate in now. Massively increase prices and have stricter rules while tailgating. Even if they manage to buy 1-2 of the bigger private lots and increase prices that will make it a no brainer for the other private lots to follow suit and charge more. 

What makes you think the drunken idiots are cheap?

 

Plenty of six-figure drunken #######s who like the bills lol 

 

Literally to a lot of people in Buffalo… The bills are everything

 

People are willing to spend

 

Edited April 11, 2023 by Buffalo716

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

Oh that's a good one, yeah run with that I'm sure it makes everyone feel better haha

 

Your schtick Is terrible… Be glad people want you here for laughs

[SoCal Deek]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The canopy got bigger at least. Almost there.

 

The anger that’s coming when fans find out they’re paying double and still wet. 

I really don’t get all the complaining on here. Before the site was chosen and the design work started there were people who wanted a dome and those that didn’t. Now that it’s set it seems like they’ve provided fans with a choice. You can buy seats under the cover or you can sit out in the elements. What the heck do people want? 

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

Jeez .. do you work for Pegula Sports & Entertainment or something? How can you argue he saved the franchise from a declining market and also argue there are lots of six-figure income fans in that market willing to invest into the franchise. it makes no sense. 

 

the PSL default rate will be high and the number of unique (key word) season ticket holders will decline drastically. I am sure they will sell a lot of PSLs, but it wont be to fans, it will be to LLCs, many of them the same LLCs

 

 

 

First of all…. There is a massive difference between a small market and a super broke market …. With regards to spending on sports

 

Buffalo is a very small market…. And there’s not a lot of big big money in Buffalo

 

There’s a good amount of people who makes six figures lol especially in the burbs… You can’t buy a bills team with six figures

 

But you can buy season tickets…. Very few people making $10,000 a year buy Buffalo Bills season tickets

Edited April 11, 2023 by Buffalo716

[Big Turk]

Everything is going to keep going up. Probably will climb to $1.8 billion or more by the time it's completed.

[Buffalo Super Fan]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

I've been to UBS arena. The place is gorgeous. 

I didn’t think New York Islanders arena looked gorgeous it looked like a shrine to the horse racing industry and a lot of horsing around nah. I wouldn’t want that for the Buffalo Sabres arena more like the Detroit Red Wings Little Caesars Arena in Detroit or the Minnesota Wild Arena. New York State when building stadiums and arenas have a lot to be desired with cut corners to save a buck then they fall apart. We can agree to disagree in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Sabres! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

Jeez .. do you work for Pegula Sports & Entertainment or something? How can you argue he saved the franchise from a declining market and also argue there are lots of six-figure income fans in that market willing to invest into the franchise. it makes no sense. 

 

the PSL default rate will be high and the number of unique (key wors) season ticket holders will decline drastically. I am sure they will sell a lot of PSLs, but it wont be to fans, it will be to LLCs, many of them the same LLCs

 

 

 

At Giants Stadium both the Jets and Giants had 78,000 season tickets holders. The Giants had a waiting list around 100k the Jets 25K. When MetLife and PSL's started both teams went thru their waiting list. The Giants can still sellout with mostly season tickets holders but there are a limited number of individual tickets for sale. The Jets don't have as many season tickets holders. They advertise both season tickets sales and individual tickets sales. It will hurt Bills season ticket sales no doubt. Many will be priced out unfortunately.

[mrags]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

First of all…. There is a massive difference between a small market and a super broke market …. With regards to spending on sports

 

Buffalo is a very small market…. And there’s not a lot of big big money in Buffalo

 

There’s a good amount of people who makes six figures lol especially in the burbs… You can’t buy a bills team with six figures

 

But you can buy season tickets…. Very few people making $10,000 a year buy Buffalo Bills season tickets

I’d imagine with minimum wage there isn’t a single person with season tix is making less than 40k a year. Unless they try really hard at not working. 

Edited April 11, 2023 by mrags

[Buffalo716]

Just now, mrags said:

I’d imagine with minimum wage there isn’t a single person with season tix is making less than 40k a year. Unless they fry really hard at not working. 

My nephew bought season tickets making 28k a year 

 

dedication 

[Gregg]

Just now, Buffalo Super Fan said:

I didn’t think New York Islanders arena looked gorgeous it looked like a shrine to the horse racing industry and a lot of horsing around nah. I wouldn’t want that for the Buffalo Sabres arena more like the Detroit Red Wings Little Caesars Arena in Detroit or the Minnesota Wild Arena. New York State when building stadiums and arenas have a lot to be desired with cut corners to save a buck then they fall apart. We can agree to disagree in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Sabres! Let’s Go Buffalo 

 

If you are in area sometime maybe when the Sabres are on Long Island or any game/concert. You should check it out. It really is a nice arena.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I really don’t get all the complaining on here. Before the site was chosen and the design work started there were people who wanted a dome and those that didn’t. Now that it’s set it seems like they’ve provided fans with a choice. You can buy seats under the cover or you can sit out in the elements. What the heck do people want? 

I keep repeating this but Buffalo fans don’t care about the new stadium. At least right now. Us arguing about it on here is nothing. 
 

It’s going to be about costs AFTER it’s built. We’ll see what they charge. We’ll see if they price out longtime fans. 

I envision a lot of problems in the future. We’ll see. IMO they’re spending top dollar for an open stadium and it’s a mistake.

 

 

Edited April 11, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Buffalo Super Fan]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

First of all…. There is a massive difference between a small market and a super broke market …. With regards to spending on sports

 

Buffalo is a very small market…. And there’s not a lot of big big money in Buffalo

 

There’s a good amount of people who makes six figures lol especially in the burbs… You can’t buy a bills team with six figures

 

But you can buy season tickets…. Very few people making $10,000 a year buy Buffalo Bills season tickets

We’re broke yet we can afford a $1 billion dollar Kennington Expressway tunnel and the $750 million dollars for the South Buffalo Solar Panels project that never produced the 1,500 jobs it was promised. It seems like New York State found the money for that? I guess I question the broke parroted talking points of New York State and Erie County in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Buffalo Super Fan said:

We’re broke yet we can afford a $1 billion dollar Kennington Expressway tunnel and the $750 million dollars for the South Buffalo Solar Panels project that never produced the 1,500 jobs it was promised. It seems like New York State found the money for that? I guess I question the broke parroted talking points of New York State and Erie County in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

Because they steal our money

[mrags]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

My nephew bought season tickets making 28k a year 

 

dedication 

Well. That is dedication. He can’t be working full time. At full time he’d have to be making at least 30k a year. I’ve got a kid that sat behind me that didn’t have a home, he bounced around between moms house and friends houses that worked at McDonalds. 
 

that type of season ticket holder is no long going to be buying season tickets to games. Most likely your nephew won’t be able to afford them either. 
 

but who knows, maybe they are able to get the last seat in the 500s when all is done. We will see. 

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, mrags said:

Well. That is dedication. He can’t be working full time. At full time he’d have to be making at least 30k a year. I’ve got a kid that sat behind me that didn’t have a home, he bounced around between moms house and friends houses that worked at McDonalds. 
 

that type of season ticket holder is no long going to be buying season tickets to games. Most likely your nephew won’t be able to afford them either. 
 

but who knows, maybe they are able to get the last seat in the 500s when all is done. We will see. 

Well he goes to college full time so no he don’t work full time but it’s a good chunk of his money lol

Edited April 11, 2023 by Buffalo716