Draconator Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 And we took Ed Oliver 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Reminder that the nfl doesn’t care about woman beaters. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Now they need to save some cap and dump Derrick Henry to the Bills 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, aristocrat said: And we took Ed Oliver What do you do? 6 teams before us didn’t take Josh Allen. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: Now they need to save some cap and dump Derrick Henry to the Bills Bills don't have the cap space to take Henry. Not to mention they would have to give up a valuable draft pick or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 So help me if Ed Oliver references this in a tweet… 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Herb Nightly said: Bills don't have the cap space to take Henry. Not to mention they would have to give up a valuable draft pick or two. Oh fudge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Beast said: What do you do? 6 teams before us didn’t take Josh Allen. That in and of itself is enough to stop with the 20/20 vision into the past, but if you look at WHO was taken before josh allen it becomes particularly lol worthy I say that with total self deprecation because i was a wrong josh guy and thought borker mayfield was going to be great 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Simmons, Quentin Williams, Christian Wilkins. These players are true game wreckers at DT. Ed Oliver is not. Period. 3 1 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, JohnNord said: Simmons, Quentin Williams, Christian Wilkins. These players are true game wreckers at DT. Ed Oliver is not. Period. No he is not.. But looking at this deal …they wouldn’t be able to afford to pay Oliver if he was at this level… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, dorquemada said: That in and of itself is enough to stop with the 20/20 vision into the past, but if you look at WHO was taken before josh allen it becomes particularly lol worthy I say that with total self deprecation because i was a wrong josh guy and thought borker mayfield was going to be great It wasn’t all hindsight… Not everyone believed Oliver was the better DT prospect. Simmons was always touted as a top prospect at DT in 2018. The knock on him was character related because a video re-surfaced of him hitting a woman a few years earlier. He likely would have been drafted higher. As far as Oliver - the reception was very much mixed how he would transition to the NFL. Some were enthralled with the quickness of his first step and his athleticism whereas others were more concerned about his size. I think the comparisons in his game to Aaron Donald helped raise his stock in the eyes of some. Not to say he was going to be the next Donald, but that he had that kind of potential. Oliver’s career over his first four season is probably dead set in the middle of his ceiling/floor trajectory coming out of the draft. He had flashed at times but overall isn’t nearly the difference maker the other 2018 first round rookie tackles have been 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I knew Simmons was good but I never saw 23 million a year good from him. I admit only seeing him maybe a dozen games over years but this is just below Aaron Donald type good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Simmons, Quentin Williams, Christian Wilkins. These players are true game wreckers at DT. Ed Oliver is not. Period. Dexter Lawrence is pretty dang good as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, DCbillsfan said: Dexter Lawrence is pretty dang good as well Correct..:my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, JohnNord said: It wasn’t all hindsight… Not everyone believed Oliver was the better DT prospect. Simmons was always touted as a top prospect at DT in 2018. The knock on him was character related because a video re-surfaced of him hitting a woman a few years earlier. He likely would have been drafted higher. As far as Oliver - the reception was very much mixed how he would transition to the NFL. Some were enthralled with the quickness of his first step and his athleticism whereas others were more concerned about his size. I think the comparisons in his game to Aaron Donald helped raise his stock in the eyes of some. Not to say he was going to be the next Donald, but that he had that kind of potential. Oliver’s career over his first four season is probably dead set in the middle of his ceiling/floor trajectory coming out of the draft. He had flashed at times but overall isn’t nearly the difference maker the other 2018 first round rookie tackles have been Simmons also had a major injury before the draft-many thought it was a reach he was taken as high as he was. If he hadn’t gotten injured he would’ve been taken a lot higher 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 31 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: I knew Simmons was good but I never saw 23 million a year good from him. I admit only seeing him maybe a dozen games over years but this is just below Aaron Donald type good “Just below Aaron Donald type good” was where many had projected Ed Oliver 😟 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 A true beast, unlike mediocre Oliver. Another swing and Miss by McClappy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: Simmons also had a major injury before the draft-many thought it was a reach he was taken as high as he was. If he hadn’t gotten injured he would’ve been taken a lot higher Good point… all goes back to the fact that Simmons turning out to be a better pro than Oliver isn’t exactly complete hindsight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 55 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: No he is not.. But looking at this deal …they wouldn’t be able to afford to pay Oliver if he was at this level… If we had Jeffrey Simmons, you find a way. KC broke the mold by trading away an elite WR in his prime, but they also have Kelce. Who knows how things play out if Ed lived up to the hype… Do we spend so much draft capital at EDGE? Do we sign Von? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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