D.C. radio slams Ralph Wilson

[SF Bills Fan]

I wish I'd heard it...listening to someone bash Ralph Wilson's presumed greed through the questionable mechanism of defending Dan Snyder's obvious greed has a certain humor factor going for it... 

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Wasn't Snyder the guy that charged $10 to see training camp practices? I'd like to punch this little broadcast mule in the nose. It's not about greed, he's missed the point.

[Live&DieBillsFootball]

the entire of this thread, if you go back and read - if that the 'model' you talk about is going to be ruined once the CBA leaves and hence, the salary cap is lifted.  the cap protects wilson, once gone, wilson is up **** creek without a padel, thus he is crying bloody murder 3-4 years early.  but the other owners will balk at this attempt, as they go forward and he is stuck in 1st gear

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I think that you have it wrong. The players are going to demand a % of revenue with local revenue included. Let's say they get 60% of all revenue as a salary cap. 60% of the Redskins total revenue may be 100% of the Bills total revenue. Which means that in order to spend the cap dollars Ralph has to pay 100% of his revenue. He can't afford to do this so he lowers the Bills payroll accordingly and the Bills can no longer keep or sign free agents.

 

Ralph's not fighting for past dollars. Snyder and Jones have been spending a lower % of their revenue to meet the cap. Ralph knows that the players are going to want the local revenue included in any new CBA. If the smaller market teams don't get a share of the total league revenues, none of them can compete with the big boys.

[MadBuffaloDisease]

You make a fine post, then finish pathetically with a conclusion that's immature.  Jones and Synder "can deal with it?"  They are the richest owners and are in teh big markets.  They ARE IN THE DRIVER's SEAT - not wilson.  They are making the league huge, not wilson.  Wilson is in the minority now - this is NOT 1961.  Read the N.Y. Giant's news clip on the front of the website.  you will see that wilson is going to get buried with a negative backlash re: his views and when the cap is lifted will have a hard time fielding a winnig team.

I'm going back on word about being done with this thread to address that article. Here is the quote from Mara that tells it all:

"We need to find the right formula to preserve the competitive balance, but which doesn't deter entrepreneurism," he said.

[Ramius]

I think that you have it wrong.  The players are going to demand a % of revenue with local revenue included.  Let's say they get 60% of all revenue as a salary cap.  60% of the Redskins total revenue may be 100% of the Bills total revenue.  Which means that in order to spend the cap dollars Ralph has to pay 100% of his revenue.  He can't afford to do this so he lowers the Bills payroll accordingly and the Bills can no longer keep or sign free agents.

 

Ralph's not fighting for past dollars.  Snyder and Jones have been spending a lower % of their revenue to meet the cap.  Ralph knows that the players are going to want the local revenue included in any new CBA.  If the smaller market teams don't get a share of the total league revenues, none of them can compete with the big boys.

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you said it exactly right...if the TV deal gives every team 50 mil, and they set the cap at say 45 mil, thats no problem. the problem is when each team gets 50 mil from TV, but the cap is based on total revenue...so say danny boy makes 50 mil TV + 50 mil local = 100 mil, hes fine at a 75 mil cap, where ralph who only makes 25 local is screwed and has to change the way his team is run...

[FTW_BillsFan]

For the sake of the NFL, let's hope that Ralph Wilson wins this battle.

 

The only reason why the NFL is so popular is that there is 'competitive balance'. IE. each team has a salary cap and must stay under that number. Now, the cap number is based on revenue shared by all the NFL teams (TV, Direct TV, ticket sales, etc...). So in other words the salary cap is based on money that is shared by all teams, so each team has enough money to field a team that reached the cap.

 

Now, this is where it might get a little tricky, so hang in there.

 

There is a new CBA that needs to be negotiated with the players. And those damn players want more money (% of gross revenues) and more revenue streams added into the cap (Luxury suites, local revenues), because they are currently not counted in the cap. So the new CBA coming up will have a higher salary cap and will probably take into account more revenue streams than in the previous CBA.

 

BUT BEFORE they can negotiate with the NFLPA, the owners need to get their camp in order and figure out how they are going to share revenue between themselves. The richer franchises (Dallas /Washington) want to keep all the current non-shared revenues to themselves(each team keeps their own), while the smaller market teams want some kind of revenue sharing of these revenues to keep the league competitively balanced.

 

Ralph Wilson sees the writing on the wall, because here is what is going to happen. RW knows that those previous revenue streams that are not in the current CBA will be added to the new CBA. He also knows that when that happens the salary cap will go through the roof and the small market teams will not be able to compete with the larger markets. Once this happens, the NFL will be a shell of it current wonderful self.

 

In a previous post the difference between the richest and poorest NFL franchise is 120 Million(Washington-Arizona). So what that says is that Washington made 120Mil more than Arizona with the revenue streams that are not shared in the NFL. There is no way that Arizona or Buffalo can financially compete with the Dallas and Washingtons of the world. Dal and Wash have 3 or 4 times the amount of people in those cities and other factors in their favor.

 

How to fix this: Any revenue streams that are counted toward the CBA shall be revenue shared between the owners of the NFL. This would make sure that every team has a solid footing and can compete.

 

Finally, an example of what will happen if the owners to do not agree to sharing all the revenue steams in the new CBA. I do not know what the real numbers are, if someone knows please share them with the class.

 

Buf Wash (Current CBA)

80M 80M Amount of shared revenue (Assume cap is 60M)

40M 140M Amount of non-shared revenue

120M 220M Total.

 

Buf Wash (New CBA, with all revenue steams added and sharing same).

80M 80M Amount of shared revenue

40M 140M Amount of non-shared revenue

120M 220M Total.

 

Now the cap in the new CBA will be dramatically higher to take into account the new revenue streams. The cap will now probably be around 85-90M.

 

So, how is buffalo going to compete when the cap is 85-90M and they only bring in revenues of 120M? How will they be able to pay those big signing bonuses when they have to put all their money just to fielding a roster?

 

Let's hope that RW wins this for all the NFL or it will turn into MLB or NHL, the have and have nots.

[EndZoneCrew]

I can't stand these pre-madonna owners like Snyder and Jones....it's guys like Bud Adams and Ralph Wilson who got this great league going and this is how they show their respect....FUG EM!!!!!!!