Cam Newton open to backing up Buffalo Bills’ Josh Allen

[HOUSE]

This is like being an airline pilot, "Yeah I crashed a few planes , ran out of gas twice but I will only work for Delta, American Airlines, Jet Blue and Eastern. "

 

 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

He’s got Jack Sparrow vibes 

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

* Lamar Jackson has entered the chat *

 

Lamar Jackson has a $32M 1-year non-exclusive franchise tag contract from the Ravens awaiting his signature.

No one else wants him because they'd have to give the Ravens 2 first round picks.

 

Different situation entirely than Cam right now.

[C.Biscuit97]

Heathy Cam >>>>> Kyle Allen

 

people hate him, and get it to an extent, but if he’s healthy (and that’s a huge if), he’s the perfect backup to Allen. Former MVP, played in a SB, was said to be a great team guy in NE.  It won’t happen but I feel a million times better winning a game with him than Josh’s friend Kyle. 

[BringBackFergy]

7 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Lamar Jackson has a $32M 1-year non-exclusive franchise tag contract from the Ravens awaiting his signature.

No one else wants him because they'd have to give the Ravens 2 first round picks.

 

Different situation entirely than Cam right now.

I hear ya. My opinion of him as a clown is more akin to a fool. Was listening to Sirius XM NFL yesterday. The Ravens have offered him 6 years, $270 million with $150 million guaranteed. More than Bills paid Josh Allen. More fully guaranteed money than Josh. He declined. That is the epitome of “clown”. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

Sad thing is , he's a better option then Kyle Allen.

[C.Biscuit97]

15 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

I hear ya. My opinion of him as a clown is more akin to a fool. Was listening to Sirius XM NFL yesterday. The Ravens have offered him 6 years, $270 million with $150 million guaranteed. More than Bills paid Josh Allen. More fully guaranteed money than Josh. He declined. That is the epitome of “clown”. 

In billion dollar business where owners make billions for being terrible (Dan Snyder is going to make a billion dollar profit for being the worst owner in sports), players who can be cut at any time when they get injured, how is a player a clown for maximizing their value? You can question his tactics which is reasonable but how does that make him a clown?

 

also because something is reported, how do we know that is true? If you thought you were the best or one of the best at your job and someone you thought you were better than got a better contract than you, you would just be ok with that? I think you would be a clown to just be ok with that. 

41 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:

Why did he pick certain players he's will to back-up. It's a back-up position. You're on the bench or sidelines. I don't get it.

 

The more I think of it, It's actually a little creepy. 

He was picking qbs who his style is similar to. I do agree he probably should humble himself and realize he has little leverage now. 

37 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

This is like being an airline pilot, "Yeah I crashed a few planes , ran out of gas twice but I will only work for Delta, American Airlines, Jet Blue and Eastern. "

 

 

But the pilot also was a decorated military pilot who won several awards before crashing those planes. 

[BringBackFergy]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

In billion dollar business where owners make billions for being terrible (Dan Snyder is going to make a billion dollar profit for being the worst owner in sports), players who can be cut at any time when they get injured, how is a player a clown for maximizing their value? You can question his tactics which is reasonable but how does that make him a clown?

 

also because something is reported, how do we know that is true? If you thought you were the best or one of the best at your job and someone you thought you were better than got a better contract than you, you would just be ok with that? I think you would be a clown to just be ok with that. 

Is Josh Allen a clown for accepting less than YOU perceive his market value?

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, BringBackFergy said:

Is Josh Allen a clown for accepting less than YOU perceive his market value?

Huh? The whole clown thing is just a garbage way to describe someone looking for a contract. It’s a billion dollar business. Stop getting in your feelings about it. Worrying about another man’s money is clown behavior. Either he gets it or he doesn’t. 

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

Because he is outside looking in, didn't even play last year.  He is not even a luke warm commodity 

 

Well, duh. I never said that any team should sign him. I never  even argued against any point in the post I quoted here. Obviously there is very little upside and a whole lot of downside for a team that would sign him - especially if he tries to mentor a young player. No disagreement there.

 

But explain to me why a player who has made so much money already should play for vet minimum (or close) to play somewhere he doesn’t want to play?. 

[BigAl2526]

I think Cam Newton is far better in his own mind than he is under center.

[nucci]

32 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Heathy Cam >>>>> Kyle Allen

 

people hate him, and get it to an extent, but if he’s healthy (and that’s a huge if), he’s the perfect backup to Allen. Former MVP, played in a SB, was said to be a great team guy in NE.  It won’t happen but I feel a million times better winning a game with him than Josh’s friend Kyle. 

except he was terrible his last couple of seasons

[BringBackFergy]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Huh? The whole clown thing is just a garbage way to describe someone looking for a contract. It’s a billion dollar business. Stop getting in your feelings about it. Worrying about another man’s money is clown behavior. Either he gets it or he doesn’t. 

Your initial response to me asked why a player (who might get injured) wouldn’t want to maximize their earnings in a billion dollar industry. Do you not understand what “fully guaranteed” money is? He declined over $150 million of fully guaranteed money. Ok, I’ll qualify my characterization of him “foolish clown” 

[C.Biscuit97]

4 minutes ago, nucci said:

except he was terrible his last couple of seasons

That’s why it’s if he is healthy. His shoulder was shot. It’s also more of what I think of Kyle Allen. I think he might be the worst backup in the league next to Peterman. Josh is a monster but we have been really lucky with him not getting too majorly hurt. 
 

I would feel better with Cam running a wishbone than Kyle Allen. JMO. 

[Saxum]

4 hours ago, Lost said:

Only if he wears that hat every game he's sitting on the sidelines

 

I take it you do not like the season ticket holder whose view he will block?

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

He’s a former league MVP

 

Come on. This is so meaningless. Cam's throwing shoulder is completely shot. It's sad but his career is over.

[C.Biscuit97]

6 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Your initial response to me asked why a player (who might get injured) wouldn’t want to maximize their earnings in a billion dollar industry. Do you not understand what “fully guaranteed” money is? He declined over $150 million of fully guaranteed money. Ok, I’ll qualify my characterization of him “foolish clown” 

Agree to disagree. IT’s negotiations and a lot of rumors being reported. I don’t blame any player for getting every penny they can. Every other sport has guaranteed contracts. Why not the sport that has the shortest careers? 
 

if in a few years, the nfl has guaranteed contracts, will Lamar be a clown or a trendsetter? 

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

That’s why it’s if he is healthy. His shoulder was shot. It’s also more of what I think of Kyle Allen. I think he might be the worst backup in the league next to Peterman. Josh is a monster but we have been really lucky with him not getting too majorly hurt. 
 

I would feel better with Cam running a wishbone than Kyle Allen. JMO. 

 

I'd feel better watching Cam Newton suck the meat off of a wishbone on Thanksgiving than to ever see him in a Bills uniform.

 

I've always been a Cam Newton fan, but he absolutely sucks now.  Healthy or not.

[C.Biscuit97]

9 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I think Cam Newton is far better in his own mind than he is under center.

 But that separates great athletes from regular people. You have to be overly confident. I’m sure he just thinks he is still young enough and sees awful qbs getting paid good money and knows his resume. 
 

but he should have someone in his ear telling him to just do a fake grateful for the opportunity and I’ll do whatever it takes to help the team act because it would help him get signed. People surround themselves with too many yes men.

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

No thanks, Cam.

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This should be New England's official third uniform.