Rigotz Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 So⦠what led you to make this bold claim?  Was it the 7 page thread I created on the topic a week ago?   Quote
Homey D. Clown Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 On 4/5/2023 at 9:09 PM, CaptnCoke11 said: I donβt see it. Β Nothing in McDermotts past leads me to believe heβll push to draft a linebacker who canβt tackle, not good in coverageΒ Β Have you not seen Edmunds? 1 Quote
nosejob Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 14 hours ago, Victory Formation said: Iβm going out on a limb and I say that Bijan Robinson will be a Bill at 27. Β If he's at 27, I'd be trying to fleece somebody. 1 Quote
fergie's ire Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 On 4/5/2023 at 10:28 PM, Dablitzkrieg said: Β Inconsistent in reading his keys for misdirection. Some change-of-direction delay in coverage. Pursuit leverage and tackle balance need improvement. Allows runners to slip away from his grasp. Sounds like we've found Edmunds replacement. Quote
RunTheBall Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 If they go LB in the first itβs gotta be Campbell. You arenβt replacing Tremaineβs athleticism the guy is a freak. You can replace his lack of instincts and aggressiveness with a very instinctive yet still very athletic LB in Campbell. McD said himself he wants to increase the nastiness factor of the D and that starts with the MLB. I donβt see them taking a flyer on a guy who has one start or canβt tackle well.Β Β If all this talk about Brown has been a smokescreen then they go OT ( I tend to believe Beane likes Brown and has been talking straight with us about him) Β With no DTβs under contract past this year I think DT is a very good possibility and then this board will go ChernobylΒ Quote
dje85 Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 15 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: If they draft D with the first pick, I am so done with the Bills..... Start packing yourΒ fandom bags. It is very highly likely that is the route they go. LB, DT, and DE can all be argued to be needs for a starter or depth rotation and can also be argued based on projections would all be bpa at our pick or just barely need reaches.Β Β Add to that a relatively weak wr class and the Bills supposedly sold on our tackles and already have gone the fa route for guards I am betting picking d is likely unless we go te or Bijan Robinson is available at our pick. But if I were a betting man it is 75/25 we pick defense in the first if we even draft in the first and don't trade down. 1 1 Quote
nosejob Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: If they go LB in the first itβs gotta be Campbell. You arenβt replacing Tremaineβs athleticism the guy is a freak. You can replace his lack of instincts and aggressiveness with a very instinctive yet still very athletic LB in Campbell. McD said himself he wants to increase the nastiness factor of the D and that starts with the MLB. I donβt see them taking a flyer on a guy who has one start or canβt tackle well.Β Β If all this talk about Brown has been a smokescreen then they go OT ( I tend to believe Beane likes Brown and has been talking straight with us about him) Β With no DTβs under contract past this year I think DT is a very good possibility and then this board will go ChernobylΒ Draft night at 27... No Wright, no Addison , JSN or Johnston, no Kincaid or Meyer and no Breese. Bills trade Oliver to hometown Houston for... Β nos, 33 / 65 and 188. ( Texans have 2 3rds and 2 6ths).Β At 33 the Bills select Calijah Kancey then trade 59 /91/ 206 and next yrs 4th to Carolina for no. 39 and select Jack Campbell.Β With no. 65 the Bills Select Steve Avila. Β Pick 130Β Rashee Rice WR Pick 137Β Zack KuntzΒ TE Β I forgot I said I was gonna quit doing this....20 more days Quote
BillsVet Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 Β On 4/6/2023 at 8:50 AM, SoCal Deek said: Iβve always considered MLB to be the heart of your defense, somewhat akin to quarterback on offense. So unless the Bills intend to roll with the smattering of guys currently on our thin bench I can definitely see them going MLB in Round One. If not, itβs going to look a whole lot like the years we went with Peterman, whoever, and/or nobody at QB.Β Β This is just flat out false equivalency. Β Based on pay rates and where they're drafted, QBs are much more valued than MLBs. Β And, I'm pretty sure you could tell me the top 3 QBs in the NFL off the top of your head, but could not identify the top 3 MLB/ILBs.Β Β Buffalo's defense was 16th in points and 14th in yards allowed in 2020, but made the AFC Championship. Β The following year, they improved dramatically to 1st / 1st, but lost in the Division Round. Β This past season, 2nd / 6th, yet blown out in the Division Round. Β Β It's funny to see the latent anxiety here because there isn't a clear starter at MLB and a 1st round pick makes people feel warm and fuzzy. Β Still doesn't mean you use the highest pick this team owns on that position.Β Quote
T master Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 If the Bills could get Drew with their first pick it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all but if he's not there getting Campbell wouldn't hurt my feelings either I think they can get a good WR in the later rounds but MLB is the position they need to fill . Β I've heard some folks say they would rather have Beane bring in a veteran LB but that would cost more against the cap i would think unless they wait till after the draft then they may be able to get a player for vet minimum . Β But if they get a very good rookie they would have him for 4 to 5 yrs . Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, nosejob said: Draft night at 27... No Wright, no Addison , JSN or Johnston, no Kincaid or Meyer and no Breese. Bills trade Oliver to hometown Houston for... Β nos, 33 / 65 and 188. ( Texans have 2 3rds and 2 6ths).Β At 33 the Bills select Calijah Kancey then trade 59 /91/ 206 and next yrs 4th to Carolina for no. 39 and select Jack Campbell.Β With no. 65 the Bills Select Steve Avila. Β Pick 130Β Rashee Rice WR Pick 137Β Zack KuntzΒ TE Β I forgot I said I was gonna quit doing this....20 more days What happens at #27? Are they trading Oliver and 27?Β Edited April 7, 2023 by Solomon Grundy Quote
JaCrispy Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) I just donβt see it with JSNβ¦I mean, he is a nice receiver and allβ¦But I donβt see him any better than a Robert Woodsβ¦No burst or elite long speedβ¦he is just a great route runnerβ¦Unfortunately, that doesnβt equate as first round talent to meβ¦JSN looks like 2nd round talentβ¦pass at 27 imoβ¦ Β Β Edited April 7, 2023 by JaCrispy Quote
RyanC883 Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 2 hours ago, RunTheBall said: If they go LB in the first itβs gotta be Campbell. You arenβt replacing Tremaineβs athleticism the guy is a freak. You can replace his lack of instincts and aggressiveness with a very instinctive yet still very athletic LB in Campbell. McD said himself he wants to increase the nastiness factor of the D and that starts with the MLB. I donβt see them taking a flyer on a guy who has one start or canβt tackle well.Β Β If all this talk about Brown has been a smokescreen then they go OT ( I tend to believe Beane likes Brown and has been talking straight with us about him) Β With no DTβs under contract past this year I think DT is a very good possibility and then this board will go ChernobylΒ Β Who's Brown (Sidney Brown?).Β Β Β Β 3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I just donβt see it with JSNβ¦I mean, he is a nice receiver and allβ¦But I donβt see him any better than a Robert Woodsβ¦No burst or elite long speedβ¦he is just a great route runnerβ¦Unfortunately, that doesnβt equate as first round talent to meβ¦JSN looks like 2nd round talentβ¦pass at 27 imoβ¦ Β Β Β I think this is an issue with everyone at 27: "he'd be great as a 2nd round pick".Β Would be great to have a few picks at the top of the second.Β Could get a good G/C (Avila), a LB (Campbell/Sanders) and WR.Β Β Quote
gobills404 Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I just donβt see it with JSNβ¦I mean, he is a nice receiver and allβ¦But I donβt see him any better than a Robert Woodsβ¦No burst or elite long speedβ¦he is just a great route runnerβ¦Unfortunately, that doesnβt equate as first round talent to meβ¦JSN looks like 2nd round talentβ¦pass at 27 imoβ¦ Β Β His route running is great and as well as his change of direction, YAC ability, hands, ball skills, and ability to find the soft spot in zone coverage. Lots of the best WRs of the past decade (Adams, Hopkins, Kupp, AB, Evans) didnβt have great athleticism either. If he falls down the board itβs gonna because teams want a βtrue #1 WRβ and Njigba only played in the slot at Ohio State. Bills already have their #1 guy so I personally think he would be a home run pick if he somehow made it to 27. 1 Quote
nosejob Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: What happens at #27? Are they trading Oliver and 27?Β Β 3 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: What happens at #27? Are they trading Oliver and 27?Β We also gave Houston a 2024 4th conditional 3rd. Β No 27 isn't in the deal. Β .Robinson fell in our laps and we sent him to Seattle for 37 and 83 then took Darnell Washington at 37 and Cedric Tillman at 83. IDKΒ i'm going crazy ....20 days Edited April 7, 2023 by nosejob Quote
3rdand12 Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 20 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Β We also have Nyheim Hines. And as I said, McDermott doesn't dress 4 RB's on Game Day. Hines will be active for his ST's, in addition to his ability as a runner and pass catcher. Meaning one of Robinson, Cook, or Harris will be inactive. Β I just don't see how they'd trade a 5th for Hines and spend a 2nd on Cook within 6 months of each other and then turn around and spend another 1st on another one - after doing all of that AND signing Harris.Β Β It doesn't make sense to begin with. It makes even less sense when you factor in the holes we have at other positions and the upgrades we need at other positions, with the lack of cap space we have to do those things with FA's. RB is covered.Β Β If Robinson were on the board, I see it as way more likely we'd trade down to someone who wanted him and pick up more Draft capital than it is we'd draft him.Β yep Quote
harmonkillebrew Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 Bills are looking to trade up. Β At least that is the word on the streets.Β It won't be for Drew Sanders, but more likely someone they love at OT or DE - premium positions - that is falling. Β If we stay put it could be Sanders, but more likely we wait until the 2nd Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 11 hours ago, fergie's ire said: Sounds like we've found Edmunds replacement. You and many here are going to be upset at how bad the defense is going to be this year with this poor front 7 Quote
NewEra Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 13 hours ago, nosejob said: Draft night at 27... No Wright, no Addison , JSN or Johnston, no Kincaid or Meyer and no Breese. Bills trade Oliver to hometown Houston for... Β nos, 33 / 65 and 188. ( Texans have 2 3rds and 2 6ths).Β At 33 the Bills select Calijah Kancey then trade 59 /91/ 206 and next yrs 4th to Carolina for no. 39 and select Jack Campbell.Β With no. 65 the Bills Select Steve Avila. Β Pick 130Β Rashee Rice WR Pick 137Β Zack KuntzΒ TE Β I forgot I said I was gonna quit doing this....20 more days You think we can get 33,, 65 and 188 for Ed? Β Quote
machine gun kelly Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 On 4/5/2023 at 10:00 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said: Everyone likes Jack Campbell, and i do too, but hes the safe pick to replace Edmunds but Sanders is dynamic and can not only play off the ball and he can rush the passer and not just a blitzer but actually has pass rush moves.Β Β he could be our Lawrence Taylor instead of another Edmunds. Β And hes got that NASTY, which this team needs more of. Β Β Β BB, you know I respect youβre opinion, but itβs highly unlikely most teams will use their #1 even at 27th on an off the ball LB. Β You know I like MTCΒ on NFLR and those guys are pretty informative. Β They are in the season where they do their mock drafts on Fridays. Β They referenced the same point that S, RB, and the above position usually you can get a quality one in the 2nd rd. Β On the other hand if we donβt get into the Hopkins or OBJ sweepstakes, we probably will grab a WR. Β We can always add depth at RT in the 3rd, and Iβd love it if we grabbed a stud TE in one of the higher rounds as this is a deep TE class. Beane has tipped his hand if you read between the tea leaves that he wants a better 12 personnel option. Quote
Governor Posted April 8, 2023 Posted April 8, 2023 A LB at our spot without first trading into the 2nd would be a pretty awful choice. Letβs hope Beane doesnβt draft for desperate immediate need like the other years.Β Quote
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