Calling it now: Drew Sanders will be the Bills number Three pick 😁😁

[gobills404]

12 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Definitely see Beane being more interested in Sanders than Campbell. He's big on athleticism, measurements, and having room to grow. 

 

[Shaw66]

12 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Everyone likes Jack Campbell, and i do too, but hes the safe pick to replace Edmunds but Sanders is dynamic and can not only play off the ball and he can rush the passer and not just a blitzer but actually has pass rush moves. 

 

he could be our Lawrence Taylor instead of another Edmunds.

 

And hes got that NASTY, which this team needs more of.

 

 

 

Well, I don't know if he merits a first-round grade, but I see in him what you see.   Well, I don't see Lawrence Taylor.    If he had much of Lawrence Taylor in him everyone would have seen it by now.   

 

But "dynamic and can not only play off the ball and he can rush the passer and not just a blitzer but actually has pass rush moves....  And he's got that NASTY, which this team needs more of" is exactly right.  He's all of that.  Especially the NASTY part - he's hungry to hit people, and that's the thing that no one ever said about Edmunds.  Technique isn't always the best, but he hits people. 

 

 

[Shaw66]

17 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

 

I've never gotten into the RAS world and don't know exactly what to think about it.  But I found Sanders' RAS, and it's not materially different.  His is 9.28, but when I look at the relevant individual data, I don't see a lot of difference.   I mean, Sanders broad jump is less, but do I care?  Sanders sprint splits are marginally better, which is more important than broad jump.  Sanders agility score is lower, which I care about, but not as much as the foot speed, where Sanders has a real edge.  

 

I think what people are saying is true:  Campbell has the higher floor, Sanders the higher ceiling.   High ceiling is what Beane went after with Allen and with Edmunds.   Beane is fearless, so on these numbers I'd guess he'll go after the ceiling again. 

[Einstein's Dog]

16 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Yeah.  I like this.  

 

A year ago at this time, Beane and McD were talking about the things that Edmunds had shown so far and what they hoped he would do in 2022.   I'm reminded that in Allen's second year, Beane said he hoped Allen would make him write a big check when the time came; Allen did and Beane did.   Beane said the same thing to McD about Edmunds, and Edmunds didn't do what he needed to do to force Beane to write the big check.  

 

If two or three of these draftees look good to Beane, then maybe he waits to round two, and maybe he trades out of round one into early round two.   But that hasn't generally been Beane's style.   He will like one of those guys better than the others, and he likely will move UP to get the guy he wants.   He might move up a few positions in round one, or he might move up in round two.  

 

If Beane moves UP in round one, say from 27 to 20, to take a middle linebacker, then you're looking at the 2023 starter.  

I hope they don't move up - just too costly.  My worry is that they may have a limited top tier, like Sanders/Campbell and someone takes one of them ahead of us.  This would make Beane very nervous.  Something similar happened last year with cb.

[Billz4ever]

11 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

It’s a bad class. Campbell is highly overrated on these boards he’s a mid to late 2nd rounder in my opinion and drafting him at 27 would be a waste. 

That's why I believe trading out of the first round may be the better play than reaching.  Not a ton of true first round talent in this draft IMO and if we get a chance to get an extra pick or two by dropping back into the early/mid second, we should probably take it.

[Don Otreply]

13 hours ago, Big Turk said:

How about Drew Bledsoe?

When it comes to being tackled,Drew was damn good at it…

[Shaw66]

8 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I hope they don't move up - just too costly.  My worry is that they may have a limited top tier, like Sanders/Campbell and someone takes one of them ahead of us.  This would make Beane very nervous.  Something similar happened last year with cb.

Well, I understand the worry, but I don't worry.  I mean, I worry that Beane may be making bad judgments, but I don't have any way know, except three years down the road.   

 

I agree, it seems like last year.  Beane said something like "Elam was the last guy we had a first-round grade on, so we moved up to get him."   I have no idea how they conclude a guy has a first round grade, but I suspect it may be colored by need.  So, I will not be surprised, at all, if the Bills move up a few spots from 27 to get a linebacker.   Beane will say the same thing - we had a first-round grade on him, and we didn't want to lose him.  

 

I actually like Beane's philosophy - he has the courage to go get the guys he wants.   My problem with Beane is that his history in the draft hasn't shown me that he's really good at figuring out which guys he should want.  

[TheyCallMeAndy]

I think he’s number two, but we will see!!

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

13 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Everyone likes Jack Campbell, and i do too, but hes the safe pick to replace Edmunds but Sanders is dynamic and can not only play off the ball and he can rush the passer and not just a blitzer but actually has pass rush moves. 

 

he could be our Lawrence Taylor instead of another Edmunds.

 

And hes got that NASTY, which this team needs more of.

 

 

 

Lawrence ***** Taylor? you had to go there

[nosejob]

The question for me is....Would it be better to have a top tier communicator and badass in the middle who can cover in zone?  or do I want someone with one year inside who may be better at OLB for his pass rushing ability from the end?

 

For me, I'd rather have Campbell, because MLB is more important. I'd love to have a stud OLB who can hit the gaps or around the end, but it would seem like trying to have Sanders doing double duty. I don't think that's doable. One or the other..Would love both.

 

Sanders / Campbell / Milano would be the shyt.  Bernard / Spector and Matekevich make 6....and I'd still like Klein back depending if it's possible to carry that number.

 

I am all for Beane dipping into next year's picks to move up when he needs to. 

Edited April 6, 2023 by nosejob

[C.Biscuit97]

Seems weird to let Edmunds go and replace him with a 1st rounder who isn’t a natural MLB. 

[boyst]

I don't watch college ball. Never heard of this guy. Watched his highlights. Id not take him in the first two rounds. I was not at all impressed.

 

He doesn't play big. He does not use his [lack of]size to win. He uses speed against inferior opposition. He is like Aaron may in. Too small.

 

He didn't do anything extraordinary. Didn't read any plays in a special way. 

 

The only comment I can say for the positive is that he uses his speed and athleticism to get him back into the position to save him from having bad coverage.

 

The NFL is much faster than the college ball. On defense he will struggle. 

 

The guy won't start 4 years in the NFL. 

[HappyDays]

He just looks too lean to me in the highlights I've watched. If we're taking a defensive player in the 1st round I want that size element. No more finesse players. I want someone that opposing players are afraid of.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

33 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Seems weird to let Edmunds go and replace him with a 1st rounder who isn’t a natural MLB. 

I mean he'll be cheaper, but I hope this isn't the plan.

[Alphadawg7]

14 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Everyone likes Jack Campbell, and i do too, but hes the safe pick to replace Edmunds but Sanders is dynamic and can not only play off the ball and he can rush the passer and not just a blitzer but actually has pass rush moves. 

 

he could be our Lawrence Taylor instead of another Edmunds.

 

And hes got that NASTY, which this team needs more of.

 

 

 

He is more Edmunds than Campbell is.  His biggest cons are his missed tackles and lack of instincts, areas he is considered raw at.  Basically the same as Edmunds was coming out, athletic freak but raw and would need to be developed in a lot of areas.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

So looking at Todd McShays top 150 prospects, he has LB Devin Llyod as his 13th best player, and he went 27th overall. 
 

His 17th best player, LB Nakobe Dean, went 83rd overall. 
 

His next highest rated LB was Christian Harris, who was ranked 38th and went 75th.

 

[starrymessenger]

13 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

Lawrence Taylor is gonna be there at 27?😂

I wish.

But no.

[boyst]

29 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

He is more Edmunds than Campbell is.  His biggest cons are his missed tackles and lack of instincts, areas he is considered raw at.  Basically the same as Edmunds was coming out, athletic freak but raw and would need to be developed in a lot of areas.

that shows up on tape. it's a hard pass from me in the 1st round. 

 

a 2nd round flyer, sure if we have the luxury but i don't even like that Jack dude enough to think he's 1st round grade

[billsfan89]

I wouldn't hate adding Sanders but I would rather spend pick 27 on offense. I can live with taking an MLB at pick 59 or 91 or later and having lesser MLB play if it means adding a better piece around Josh, 2 out of the first 3 picks should be on offense to get Josh more help.

[Saxum]

15 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Do a little research on Keuchlys college scouting reports lol.  Do you live under a rock?

 

Living under a rock is not so bad.  Good for Chicken Littles who are afraid of sky failing.

 

 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/meet-the-man-who-literally-lives-under-a-rock