Virgil Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Dillard has played guard too in his career. If they get a chance to take a tackle who can start for a decade they should not let Andre Dillard stop them IMO. I don't hate the Bijan pick BTW. I get the logic there. But offensive line is by far Tennessee's #1 need. Honestly, the Titans seem like a bit of a mess to me right now. I could see them going in a multitude of directions. If they want to stick to their current offensive philosophy, the RB makes sense. I could also see them trading up for a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Dillard has played guard too in his career. If they get a chance to take a tackle who can start for a decade they should not let Andre Dillard stop them IMO. I don't hate the Bijan pick BTW. I get the logic there. But offensive line is by far Tennessee's #1 need. 16 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: You do realize the Titans already signed Andre Dillard to starter level money at LT right? They are not drafting a LT with the 11th pick to sit behind Dillard, and they didn't pay Dillard starter money to sit the bench with their cap situation. If they were to take someone on the OL there it would be Peter Skoronski who would be slated to start at LG. They could also go WR at 11 there too. But with the extra draft pick I picked up with this trade, we can find IOL help in the 2nd round and a WR. Yeah I think the Titans take Johnson if he is there. I think they pass on OL if he isn’t JMO. I don’t think they will reach on a guard, so it’s probably Johnson or Jones or WR or trade down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 @aristocrat and the bengals are trading Tee Higgins, pick 28 and pick 92 in the 2023 draft for the Ravens #14 overall pick in the 2023 draft. Bengals are now on the clock 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 45 minutes ago, wppete said: With the 12th selection, the Houston Texans select Peter Skoronski, OT North Western. Houston gets long term protection for new QB Bryce Young. Have to protect your young QB. Houston plugs in Skoronski at RT to go with Tunsil at LT. The New York Jets and @NewEra are on the clock. @Virgil So they have Tunsil at LT and Tytus Howard at RT. Howard has actually developed into a very good player. Then Shaq Mason, 1st round pick last year Kenyon Brown at guard. If I am the Texans and I make this move, I just stick Skoronski at center and he’s the best center in the league for 12 years, pair him up with your rookie QB and you are good to go. Very high for a guy who won’t play LT, but Skoronski is an instant all pro in the interior imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 The Bengals need to think salary cap and with Tee Higgins having only 1 year left on his deal couldn't pass up a chance to have a cost controlled number 1 threat for the next 5 years. With Higgins looking at 20 plus mil per year on a deal and the 14th pick last year being paid around 4 mil per year the value is too good. The Bengals select Quentin Johnston WR TCU. His size and speed will immediately replace Higgins and allow the Bengals to sign Chase to a long term deal keeping Joe Burrow very happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) Top Quarterbacks still on the board this late and really good corners still on the board is kind of the worst case scenario for Buffalo. We need a heavy run on those positions for talent to drop. Edited April 7, 2023 by MrEpsYtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Yeah I think the Titans take Johnson if he is there. I think they pass on OL if he isn’t JMO. I don’t think they will reach on a guard, so it’s probably Johnson or Jones or WR or trade down I think they will take Johnson, Jones or a receiver. It won't be Bijan but I do see where @Alphadawg7 is going with it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: The Bengals need to think salary cap and with Tee Higgins having only 1 year left on his deal couldn't pass up a chance to have a cost controlled number 1 threat for the next 5 years. With Higgins looking at 20 plus mil per year on a deal and the 14th pick last year being paid around 4 mil per year the value is too good. The Bengals select Quentin Johnston WR TCU. His size and speed will immediately replace Higgins and allow the Bengals to sign Chase to a long term deal keeping Joe Burrow very happy. I'm not a fan of the trade, but I won't veto it. I don't see the Bengals trading Higgins within the division 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: I don't see the Bengals trading Higgins within the division Yeah, zero chance of that… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 The Packers @bkep32are on the clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: I'm not a fan of the trade, but I won't veto it. I don't see the Bengals trading Higgins within the division Yea I think I would have vetoed it personally but it's your show Virg. There is zero chance they trade him in division. I am not even sure they will trade him within the AFC. If the only bidders are AFC teams they are better playing it out and taking the 3rd round comp pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, GunnerBill said: Yea I think I would have vetoed it personally but it's your show Virg. There is zero chance they trade him in division. I am not even sure they will trade him within the AFC. If the only bidders are AFC teams they are better playing it out and taking the 3rd round comp pick. At the end of the day, it's all for fun. I'm trying to walk that line of taking it too seriously. For our 3rd mock with trades, I wouldn't have approved it. The only trades I will approve for that one is the two 1sts for Lamar or the Rodgers trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: I'm not a fan of the trade, but I won't veto it. I don't see the Bengals trading Higgins within the division The Bengals do not fear a team that has no qb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Yea I think I would have vetoed it personally but it's your show Virg. There is zero chance they trade him in division. I am not even sure they will trade him within the AFC. If the only bidders are AFC teams they are better playing it out and taking the 3rd round comp pick. Teams have traded other teams in their division before (lions and Vikings have traded twice in the last 12 months) but honestly if you all don’t think it’s possible then just switch the pick from bengals to ravens. I was between Johnson and porter at pick 14 so either is fine. Bengals have a plethora of receiving options and probably aren’t going to pay Higgins so they unload him to the ravens for a chance to get a cheap option with Tee Higgins upside. I also think Mac Jones needs a proven weapon outside of Andrews to start his Ravens career out right You guys decide I’m having fun either way Edited April 7, 2023 by NeverOutNick Example of in division trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: The Bengals do not fear a team that has no qb. I don't think it's a fear thing. It's just incredibly rare to see that kind of trade happen within the division. I also don't think the Ravens would do it, as Higgins is going to want 20 mil per. Ravens don't pay offensive weapons that much money 1 minute ago, NeverOutNick said: Teams have traded other teams in their division before but honestly if you all don’t think it’s possible then just switch the pick from bengals to ravens. I was between Johnson and porter at pick 14 so either is fine. Bengals have a plethora of receiving options and probably aren’t going to pay Higgins so they unload him to the ravens for a chance to get a cheap option with Tee Higgins upside. You guys decide I’m having fun either way Nope, you're good boss. It's approved. I'm just giving my personal opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: So they have Tunsil at LT and Tytus Howard at RT. Howard has actually developed into a very good player. Then Shaq Mason, 1st round pick last year Kenyon Brown at guard. If I am the Texans and I make this move, I just stick Skoronski at center and he’s the best center in the league for 12 years, pair him up with your rookie QB and you are good to go. Very high for a guy who won’t play LT, but Skoronski is an instant all pro in the interior imo. Yeah I agree. You can put Skoronski at any position on the oline and I think he does well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 42 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Dillard has played guard too in his career. If they get a chance to take a tackle who can start for a decade they should not let Andre Dillard stop them IMO. I don't hate the Bijan pick BTW. I get the logic there. But offensive line is by far Tennessee's #1 need. I agree, OL is there top need and I was definitely going OL with the pick prior to the trade. I still think Skoronski is the more likely pick. Dillard was paid starting LT money and is better suited there than guard. And Skoronski brings versatility who can play tackle and guard. With the scenario of picking up an extra second here, the plan is to address OL in the second with at least one of those 2nd rounders, possibly both if the right people are on the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think they will take Johnson, Jones or a receiver. It won't be Bijan but I do see where @Alphadawg7 is going with it. I agree, it won’t be Bijan if Henry is still on the roster. And I also agree it will be OL or a receiver in that scenario. But if they did trade Henry ahead of the draft (or during), Bijan would be an option at 11, assuming he’s still even on the board of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I agree, OL is there top need and I was definitely going OL with the pick prior to the trade. I still think Skoronski is the more likely pick. Dillard was paid starting LT money and is better suited there than guard. And Skoronski brings versatility who can play tackle and guard. With the scenario of picking up an extra second here, the plan is to address OL in the second with at least one of those 2nd rounders, possibly both if the right people are on the board. I can see taking Skoronski and then decide who plays where - Dillard LT and Skoronski LG or vice versa. Equally though Dillard's deal ia really a 2 year $8.5m AAV deal. That isn't a deal that precludes him from playing guard or RT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: I can see taking Skoronski and then decide who plays where - Dillard LT and Skoronski LG or vice versa. Equally though Dillard's deal ia really a 2 year $8.5m AAV deal. That isn't a deal that precludes him from playing guard or RT. Don’t disagree with any of that. I just think Dillards strongest position is LT, and Skoronski can play inside and potentially take over at LT when Dillards deal is done too if they wish. I’m always a fan of versatility though when it comes to the OL. I’m also very high on Skoronski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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