TheBeaneBandit Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 8 hours ago, JaCrispy said: If this happened, Beane should be fired before round 2…😉 Sad part is, given his draft history, I could actually see Beane doing something this stupid… The thing is though Darnell Wright is not that good. The guy is a late second early third rounder but there is this strange love fest with the guy. I just don't see it and I'm guessing it's mostly because people have given up on Spencer Brown, which I think is another mistake. We shall see when they take the field this year... 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: The thing is though Darnell Wright is not that good. The guy is a late second early third rounder but there is this strange love fest with the guy. I just don't see it and I'm guessing it's mostly because people have given up on Spencer Brown, which I think is another mistake. We shall see when they take the field this year... I would prefer Matthew Bergeron in the second. I think they need a better backup plan for Brown. Maybe he develops as they hope and avoids injury issues. If he doesn't, the entire oline is going to be a mess trying to compensate. If the guard play improves that helps. RT is still a question mark. Doesn't need to be a first round pick, but I would use a day 2 pick to acquire a resource there. Quote
NewEra Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said: The thing is though Darnell Wright is not that good. The guy is a late second early third rounder but there is this strange love fest with the guy. I just don't see it and I'm guessing it's mostly because people have given up on Spencer Brown, which I think is another mistake. We shall see when they take the field this year... This is the best part of this time of year. Johnny Couch educating people about what value prospects are. what makes you think Spencer brown IS going to be good? Please elaborate with something tangible. See here’s the thing…. We can’t afford to have him play like he did last season. Going into the year with him and quess as our only RT tackle options is extremely risky. If he doesn’t improve, our SB chances are likely out the window. Too big a risk 3 Quote
LEBills Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: This is the best part of this time of year. Johnny Couch educating people about what value prospects are. what makes you think Spencer brown IS going to be good? Please elaborate with something tangible. See here’s the thing…. We can’t afford to have him play like he did last season. Going into the year with him and quess as our only RT tackle options is extremely risky. If he doesn’t improve, our SB chances are likely out the window. Too big a risk Exactly. Right now our only tackles on the roster are Dawkins, Brown and Quessenberry. That is awful. Quess should not be more than an OT4 on a roster Brown was only a late third round pick. If he doesn’t become a starter but can give us a better option at swing tackle, that is still a lot of value out of a third rounder. Get an OT early so we can hopefully have better protection for the most important player on the team. 1 3 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, NewEra said: This is the best part of this time of year. Johnny Couch educating people about what value prospects are. what makes you think Spencer brown IS going to be good? Please elaborate with something tangible. See here’s the thing…. We can’t afford to have him play like he did last season. Going into the year with him and quess as our only RT tackle options is extremely risky. If he doesn’t improve, our SB chances are likely out the window. Too big a risk Well for one thing when he has been in the lineup our run blocking has been substantially better, that's pretty much a fact. As for his pass blocking yeah they were definitely some ugly moments but I want to see how much that back injury had to do with that. If the right prospect falls to compete with him I'm good with it but I'm not going out of my way to draft a right tackle and miss out on better players at other positions. Quote
gobills404 Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said: The thing is though Darnell Wright is not that good. The guy is a late second early third rounder but there is this strange love fest with the guy. I just don't see it and I'm guessing it's mostly because people have given up on Spencer Brown, which I think is another mistake. We shall see when they take the field this year... The vast majority of mock drafts have him going before the Bills first round pick. Is that also because of Bills fans giving up on Brown? Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Give me Jack Campbell in the first But why? Quote
Dunkirk Donski Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Give me Jack Campbell in the 3rd Fixx'd 1 1 1 1 Quote
finn Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 9 hours ago, SCBills said: I’m good with the Rousseau pick. I’m hoping he comes into his own this year .. the floor is decent, but we drafted him for his ceiling. The Basham and Bernard picks are types of picks that shake your faith in this Front Office. Literally every fan hated the picks at the time … and thus far, have been proven correct. Despite what we think, I doubt many of us want to believe we know more about drafting than the people paid to do it for our team. Too early to judge Bernard. But it really seems unlikely Basham will live up to his second-round draft status. He'll forever be the guy they took instead of Creed Humphrey, an All-Pro center for our biggest rival who could have played guard for us. And it's not hindsight: as the OP says, pretty much all fans were like "WTF?" Somebody should run a snap poll when the Bills are on the clock in every round. (I'll be traveling and can't.) Then, in two years, we can compare the TBD's consensus picks with Beane's. I'm not sure the board would do a better job than Beane, but I suspect his picks weren't be vastly better. That says more about the crapshoot nature of the draft than Beane's prowess or our perspicacity. 1 Quote
bills6969 Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: But why? b/c we currently don’t have a mike and it’s our biggest need imo 6 minutes ago, Unsavory Peterman said: Fixx'd Good one. Most draft prognosticators have him going late first. 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 50 minutes ago, NewEra said: This is the best part of this time of year. Johnny Couch educating people about what value prospects are. what makes you think Spencer brown IS going to be good? Please elaborate with something tangible. See here’s the thing…. We can’t afford to have him play like he did last season. Going into the year with him and quess as our only RT tackle options is extremely risky. If he doesn’t improve, our SB chances are likely out the window. Too big a risk I’m beginning to wonder if we are going to trade up for an OT. Quote
Dunkirk Donski Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, bills6969 said: b/c we currently don’t have a mike and it’s our biggest need imo Good one. Most draft prognosticators have him going late first. "Mu draft prognosticators" 1 Quote
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 Albert Breer reporting Bills tied to Gibbs. Let the games begin 2 1 Quote
NewEra Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Well for one thing when he has been in the lineup our run blocking has been substantially better, that's pretty much a fact. As for his pass blocking yeah they were definitely some ugly moments but I want to see how much that back injury had to do with that. If the right prospect falls to compete with him I'm good with it but I'm not going out of my way to draft a right tackle and miss out on better players at other positions. I couldn’t care less about his run blocking. You shouldn’t either. there were more than “some” ugly moments. We can see how much his back injury had to do with that and cover our a**** at the same time. Everyone needs tackles. If he turns out to be good and we draft another good tackle, I’d call that a great problem to have 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I’m beginning to wonder if we are going to trade up for an OT. I’m not. Sadly 1 Quote
Whkfc Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 Solomon Wilcots was talking about a trade between the Pat's and Texans for the #2 overall pick. He said it would be Mac Jones going the other way. 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Whkfc said: Solomon Wilcots was talking about a trade between the Pat's and Texans for the #2 overall pick. He said it would be Mac Jones going the other way. Pats want the second pick and someone to take Mac Jones -- entitled schmucks. 1 1 Quote
mabden Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, NewEra said: This is the best part of this time of year. Johnny Couch educating people about what value prospects are. what makes you think Spencer brown IS going to be good? Please elaborate with something tangible. See here’s the thing…. We can’t afford to have him play like he did last season. Going into the year with him and quess as our only RT tackle options is extremely risky. If he doesn’t improve, our SB chances are likely out the window. Too big a risk Maybe, if Brown doesn't have back surgery just before training camp, he will play better. Quote
GunnerBill Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Good one. Most draft prognosticators have him going late first. Like who? Quote
NewEra Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, mabden said: Maybe, if Brown doesn't have back surgery just before training camp, he will play better. Yeah….we’re risking our season (and Allen’s health) on “maybe” this guy who was never good, will now be good. that’s literally the only thing- he was recovering from surgery. He’s never shown to be even below average pass protection. He’s always been bad. Quote
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