jahnyc Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 MLB group seems weak in this draft. Campbell may be one of the only potential MLB picks (or the only one) who would be able to step in as a rookie and start (and even that would not be a given as a rookie MLB on a veteran unit with significant pass coverage requirements for the MLB). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Juggernaut Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Starting to think we can hold off WR in first and address other areas. Top WRs could be there for our second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bills Juggernaut said: Starting to think we can hold off WR in first and address other areas. Top WRs could be there for our second. im warming up to the idea of taking Washington RD1 (if a RT we like isnt there), and trading up round 2 to take one of top receivers left if this happens. Washington helps improve the OL considerably, and helps free up Knox to run more, that very intriguing to me. then top the offense with another WR weapon. could make us very explosive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, Bills Juggernaut said: Starting to think we can hold off WR in first and address other areas. Top WRs could be there for our second. Which is the exact reaction Beane hoped to create when he asked Nagy to post this “news” 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Bills Juggernaut said: Starting to think we can hold off WR in first and address other areas. Top WRs could be there for our second. In a typical draft there are 20 or less 1st round prospects total. If teams pass on WRs in the top 20 then we should definitely be looking to grab one at 27 or even move up a few picks and grab the best one. Also the last “weak” WR draft saw players like AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, and Deebo Samuel go in the 2nd. Edited April 10, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: im warming up to the idea of taking Washington RD1 (if a RT we like isnt there), and trading up round 2 to take one of top receivers left if this happens. Washington helps improve the OL considerably, and helps free up Knox to run more, that very intriguing to me. then top the offense with another WR weapon. could make us very explosive Folks won't like positional value, but I am open to this as well. I sure as hell would rather go this direction than MLB at 27. I also wouldn't rule out Kincaid and Mayer in the first, though if you want blocking help for the OL, Washington is your fella. Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: In a typical draft there are 20 or less 1st round prospects total. If teams pass on WRs in the top 20 then we should definitely be looking to grab one at 27 or even move up a few picks and grab the best one. I do think there are a handful of wrs that Beane should pick at 27 if they are available. Still think they are hardwired to go D, but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 12 hours ago, jahnyc said: MLB group seems weak in this draft. Campbell may be one of the only potential MLB picks (or the only one) who would be able to step in as a rookie and start (and even that would not be a given as a rookie MLB on a veteran unit with significant pass coverage requirements for the MLB). When I think of it, I don't recall many drafts where the Bills needs have matched up with the quality of that year's draft class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Folks won't like positional value, but I am open to this as well. I sure as hell would rather go this direction than MLB at 27. I also wouldn't rule out Kincaid and Mayer in the first, though if you want blocking help for the OL, Washington is your fella. I do think there are a handful of wrs that Beane should pick at 27 if they are available. Still think they are hardwired to go D, but we'll see. The idea of drafting a WR or TE2 is exciting. It means the FO sees a huge talent. But IMO it is unlikely. From a financial perspective, picking at 27 is around a $2.5M spot. We just picked up someone comparable to J Hyatt for under $2M, we had someone on our practice squad sniped on us comparable to Q Johnson - Hodgins. Our TE2's have salaries under $3M - even OJ Howard. Or the Bills can take what looks like a comparable to the guy that just left us for $18M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 4 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Which is the exact reaction Beane hoped to create when he asked Nagy to post this “news” Yep, this is all to push someone down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Which is the exact reaction Beane hoped to create when he asked Nagy to post this “news” No. It’s a very bad top of the draft for WRs. Just no clear WR1’s. I personally feel it’s a pretty weak draft overall. Not very exciting draft. Which tells me to draft offensive lineman early and often. I would take 2 OL in the 1st 3 rounds and try to grab a WR that falls down in the 1st or 2nd. Edited April 10, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: The idea of drafting a WR or TE2 is exciting. It means the FO sees a huge talent. But IMO it is unlikely. From a financial perspective, picking at 27 is around a $2.5M spot. We just picked up someone comparable to J Hyatt for under $2M, we had someone on our practice squad sniped on us comparable to Q Johnson - Hodgins. Our TE2's have salaries under $3M - even OJ Howard. Or the Bills can take what looks like a comparable to the guy that just left us for $18M. I don't see Hyatt as a first round wr. Johnson is boom or bust, but I think he could be DK Metcalf. I don't equate him with Hodgins who is a big slot. Our TE2s have been an afterthought. I'm considering a scenario where Dorsey would make 12 personnel more of a staple. Kincaid, Mayer, Washington, and LaPorta are the top four at the position with differing skill sets. Kincaid has the most dangerous offensive potential, imo, but he's not a blocker. Washington is a monster blocker, but limited to a RZ offensive threat. I think TE is one of the stronger talent positions in a weak draft, so I personally hope we grab one of these guys. Edited April 10, 2023 by Dr. Who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: im warming up to the idea of taking Washington RD1 (if a RT we like isnt there), and trading up round 2 to take one of top receivers left if this happens. Washington helps improve the OL considerably, and helps free up Knox to run more, that very intriguing to me. then top the offense with another WR weapon. could make us very explosive How many two TE sets do you expect Dorsey to utilize? While we need a 2nd TE, using pick 27 on one would be a mistake IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: im warming up to the idea of taking Washington RD1 (if a RT we like isnt there), and trading up round 2 to take one of top receivers left if this happens. Washington helps improve the OL considerably, and helps free up Knox to run more, that very intriguing to me. then top the offense with another WR weapon. could make us very explosive Washington also has untapped receiver potential, he can definitely do some damage against a defense. There's upside there.....how much is the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Bills Juggernaut said: Starting to think we can hold off WR in first and address other areas. Top WRs could be there for our second. I said in another thread that the OBJ signing was an indictment on the receiving class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: I said in another thread that the OBJ signing was an indictment on the receiving class More like total desperation from the Ravens to convince Lamar to stay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Bills Juggernaut said: I don't think this is a surprise. I have zero true 1sts. I have two borderline 1st/2nds - Addison and JSN. Dane Brugler's draft guide came out today. He is one of the best in the business. He had one true first - JSN. He then had four borderlines that were (in order) - Addison, Hyatt, Flowers, Johnston. On Johnston particularly I feel like I have been making this point for weeks. People understandably love the ceiling. But the floor is like Kevin White style bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 On 4/4/2023 at 3:35 PM, Dr. Who said: Think that is Bucky Brooks. He used to play for us a long time ago. They are probably just playing out various mock drafts on the ticker. They all look the same.😂😂 That's Jeff Chadiha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: They all look the same.😂😂 That's Jeff Chadiha Yes, as I explained upthread, I do not get NFL Network. I recalled that Brooks used to do mock drafts and guessed that he might be the fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think this is a surprise. I have zero true 1sts. I have two borderline 1st/2nds - Addison and JSN. Dane Brugler's draft guide came out today. He is one of the best in the business. He had one true first - JSN. He then had four borderlines that were (in order) - Addison, Hyatt, Flowers, Johnston. On Johnston particularly I feel like I have been making this point for weeks. People understandably love the ceiling. But the floor is like Kevin White style bust. Give me Hyatt ALL DAY!! & a TE that's a good pass catcher and suddenly the offense has actually added real value IF THE COACHING STAFF IS SMART ENOUGH TO PLAY THEM. Sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Give me Hyatt ALL DAY!! & a TE that's a good pass catcher and suddenly the offense has actually added real value IF THE COACHING STAFF IS SMART ENOUGH TO PLAY THEM. Sigh Has there been a good WR out of Tennessee since Peerless Price? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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