The Bills need worse recievers

[julian]

15 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

That isn't a typo.

 

Josh Allen is elite now.  Diggs served his purpose, much like Tyreek Hill served his in Kansas City.  They gave shooting star QB's reliable, talented targets they could confidently throw to, helping to establish confidence and develop the QB's mental game.  

 

Hill complained after being traded (at least he watied to make this public when he was already gone) that he wasn't being focused on enough, or getting enough targets...etc.

The Chiefs traded him away, used the assets and cap space to improve other parts of the team, AND then went out and performed even better on offense.  I strongly believe that a reason why this happend is becasue Mahomes was entirely free to run each and every play with the idea that making the most optimal throw is what mattered.  Not to massage an ego or placate a guy wanting a larger role etc.  You can make a strong case KC's WR room isn't any great shakes.  I'd agree with that.  They don't need to be.  Zach Wilson isn't our QB....and he's not the Bills QB either.  Josh Freaking Allen is.  Allen doesn't need elite, high cots WR's to shine now.   

 

I know the Bills are committed to this season as an all in, all chips to the middle of the table type season....that's fine.  I wouldn't even say that it's a bad idea....but I think it would be better if you moved Diggs for all you could possibly get, go sign a couple vets who need to prove it, who have maybe some low self esteem because they've fallen out of favor due to injury etc....get a couple mid level guys who you know are good pros.  Let ALLEN run the team.. let HIM dictate the best place for the ball to go.  It's his job to run as efficient, well managed offense as he possibly can....not make sure pouting WR's see the ball X number of times a game.

 

Use the resources to add to your team in areas that Allen doesn't directly impact, like the defense etc.  If the guys work out...they move on, sign big deal somewhere else...and you reload with a couple more dudes who need to prove it again.  There is never a shortage of these guys and they overplay their contracts consistantly.  Plus, you'll be supplimenting these WR's with WR's you draft who are cheap and cost controlled.  

 

ALLEN is it. He's why you are 3rd best odds to win Super Bowl this upcoming season.. LEAN INTO IT.

I’d prefer to have elite WRs and my QB be confident enough with his standing in the locker room and the franchise to not give a rats ass about anybody’s ego.

 

 I do agree with most of your points.

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

“Need”……No.

 

Not sure why people continue to use that word.  As if there is only one way to win a Lombardi. 

 

We “need” to go through the playoffs without a loss and there a several ways this team can accomplish this.  Not one, as you suggest with the word need.  
 

end of thread. 
 

 

Actually, the lynchpin is the O-line, if that group doesn’t show up in the post season…, well, we have all seen that show…, 

[machine gun kelly]

1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Come on, Davis hasn't had poor production at all. Not great production is very different from poor production.

 

Particularly for a 3rd year 4th rounder whose injury caused him to miss two games and play hobbled in two more. On Cover1 today, Ant pointed out that if that injury hadn't happened, he'd likely have put up a thousand yards and the narrative would be very different.

 

Agreed adding a solid WR would be very good. I doubt Zerovoltz would disagree either with that part of your post.

 

 

 

He is a Chiefs fan. He's not a troll. However, it was April 1st, and that's worth considering.

 

ok, because it’s you, I’ll take you’re word for it.  Maybe a bad and dumb April fools joke.  It went over like a Lead balloon.

[chongli]

5 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

This guy posts clown remarks to drive Bills fans crazy as he is a trol from another team.  Pick you’re AFCE opponent who feels inadequate.

 

Or if memory serves I think he might be a Chiefs fan.  It doesn’t matter.  It’s why I never bother going to other teams boards as it’s a waste of time and I have better things to do.

 

Yeah, he is a knowledgeable Chiefs fan, except for this post, lol. I don't know, maybe he was drunk, given the number of typos in the post and it was a Saturday night? Anyway, I agree it's never a good idea to post on another team's forum, even with good intentions. You will face hostility no matter what from many, even moderators. And some forums flat out ban other teams' posters, like Jungle Noise.

Edited April 2, 2023 by chongli

[NewEra]

27 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

Yeah, he is a knowledgeable Chiefs fan, except for this post, lol. I don't know, maybe he was drunk, given the number of typos in the post and it was a Saturday night? Anyway, I agree it's never a good idea to post on another team's forum, even with good intentions. You will face hostility no matter what from many, even moderators. And some forums flat out ban other teams' posters, like Jungle Noise.

Considering he hasn’t replied to the thread once- it has to be an April fools 

[PrimeTime101]

12 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Considering he hasn’t replied to the thread once- it has to be an April fools 

yea and when it comes to these boards? there is a fine line between April fools and just a good day to troll lol

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I actually think we need worse posters

[JerseyBills]

18 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

That isn't a typo.

 

Josh Allen is elite now.  Diggs served his purpose, much like Tyreek Hill served his in Kansas City.  They gave shooting star QB's reliable, talented targets they could confidently throw to, helping to establish confidence and develop the QB's mental game.  

 

Hill complained after being traded (at least he watied to make this public when he was already gone) that he wasn't being focused on enough, or getting enough targets...etc.

The Chiefs traded him away, used the assets and cap space to improve other parts of the team, AND then went out and performed even better on offense.  I strongly believe that a reason why this happend is becasue Mahomes was entirely free to run each and every play with the idea that making the most optimal throw is what mattered.  Not to massage an ego or placate a guy wanting a larger role etc.  You can make a strong case KC's WR room isn't any great shakes.  I'd agree with that.  They don't need to be.  Zach Wilson isn't our QB....and he's not the Bills QB either.  Josh Freaking Allen is.  Allen doesn't need elite, high cots WR's to shine now.   

 

I know the Bills are committed to this season as an all in, all chips to the middle of the table type season....that's fine.  I wouldn't even say that it's a bad idea....but I think it would be better if you moved Diggs for all you could possibly get, go sign a couple vets who need to prove it, who have maybe some low self esteem because they've fallen out of favor due to injury etc....get a couple mid level guys who you know are good pros.  Let ALLEN run the team.. let HIM dictate the best place for the ball to go.  It's his job to run as efficient, well managed offense as he possibly can....not make sure pouting WR's see the ball X number of times a game.

 

Use the resources to add to your team in areas that Allen doesn't directly impact, like the defense etc.  If the guys work out...they move on, sign big deal somewhere else...and you reload with a couple more dudes who need to prove it again.  There is never a shortage of these guys and they overplay their contracts consistantly.  Plus, you'll be supplimenting these WR's with WR's you draft who are cheap and cost controlled.  

 

ALLEN is it. He's why you are 3rd best odds to win Super Bowl this upcoming season.. LEAN INTO IT.

Except he has Travis Kelce who is by far the #1 option even when Hill was there. 

And they went and got him a couple of #2 WRs in MVS and Juju, traded a 3rd rder for Toney who has a ton of potential.  Spent a 1st rounder on WR. This take is ridiculous,  I'm sorry.  I see your point but this isn't basketball and Mahomes had plenty of resources around him.

Edited April 2, 2023 by JerseyBills

[chongli]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Considering he hasn’t replied to the thread once- it has to be an April fools 

 

That, or he was embarrassed by the post.

[PrimeTime101]

i think we need people that know less about football... wait is that even possible?  

[BillsVet]

OP's thread is like political party A giving political party B advice on how to win elections.  Not exactly the guidance you take.

 

Until or unless the NFL changes rules surrounding RTP, PI, holding, et al. then the way to win remains throwing the ball downfield to as many solid receiving options as possible.  

 

Sheffield and Harty are effectively on 1 year deals, Davis in his last year of a rookie contract and Shakir is unproven.  The draft could shake out any number of ways, but finding another receiver in RD1/2 should be a priority.  One would think by now that banking on improved production from lower-tier players and Diggs isn't enough...but McBeane probably ain't changing this late in the game. 

[daz28]

4 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Actually, the lynchpin is the O-line, if that group doesn’t show up in the post season…, well, we have all seen that show…, 

This is the only thing that allows his post to hold any water at all.  Too bad the salary cap ramifications make it about impossible.  

[Don Otreply]

13 minutes ago, daz28 said:

This is the only thing that allows his post to hold any water at all.  Too bad the salary cap ramifications make it about impossible.  

It’s not just the salary cap, it is intentional that they do not “as a regular practice” bring in upper level draft talent for the O-line, Cody Ford has been the extent of it, and they now go with lower level picks, and project FA players that always appear to be coming of injuries, as we have all seen this makes for regularly poor O-line play, there’s an old adage, “ya pay peanuts, and ya get monkeys” seems to fit our situation. Fingers crossed that I’m wrong and the O-line makes a big jump 🤞

[BigAl2526]

20 hours ago, Gambit said:

I'm assuming this is just a April Fools joke.? If not, wow.... Just wow.

Maybe more of a troll thing.  The "Bills sign askew" is an April Fool's thing.  BTW, we missed that this year, or at least I did.

[mrags]

Was this whole topic an April fools prank? 

[DCofNC]

8 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

This is debatable!! Gronk also made the Patriots offense go and was a major cog to Tom Brady's greatness

He did, but he was not quite as dynamic as Kelce and no where NEAR as durable.

[Goin Breakdown]

OP, I have to disagree with much of this based on KC having an elite OL, Coach, TE, better running game and so on. I do understand what you are saying , but without those things mentioned, I just can't get behind this. I do respect your thoughts and where you are going. Another thing to consider is that they had already won a SB. I think this gives a team some freedom to take chances. The team, fans, and NFL community now see you as a successful team and tend to trust what's going on. 
As much as I love Allen, he just doesn't have the support around him that Mahomes does. You can't take Diggs away right now. 

Edited April 2, 2023 by Goin Breakdown

[Ramza86]

Andy Reid and Travis Kelce. 

 

 

[TampaBillsJunkie]

While we're at it, we should get worse OL, DL, LB, CB, TE and RB. Josh can handle this.

[billsfan89]

KC still had an elite weapon in Kelce so I just don’t think your logic adds up…