B-Man Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 Back to the thread. USUALLY THAT’S BECAUSE IF PEOPLE COULD READ IT, THEY’D LAUGH: Indictment secrecy repeats pattern of past efforts targeting Trump. Everyone in the universe knew that an indictment of former President Donald Trump would be an explosive event in the political, legal, and media worlds. It would be something everybody talked about, dominating television, the internet, social media, radio, everything. And indeed, that has turned out to be the case. But here's the thing: Everyone is talking about Trump's indictment, but no one knows what Trump has been indicted for. The indictment is under seal until Tuesday, and outside of a small group of local prosecutors in Manhattan, no one knows the charges against Trump — not even Trump himself. We know what has been reported in recent weeks, that the indictment could be a strained effort to convert an old misdemeanor charge against Trump into a new campaign finance-related felony, but we don't really know what the document says. In the absence of facts, speculation flourishes, some of it in an atmosphere of high emotions. Is the indictment, in fact, "a misdemeanor that somebody put a suit on," in the words of former congressman and federal prosecutor Trey Gowdy? Does it document one of the most momentous crimes in U.S. history? Is democracy itself being tested? (And if so, how do we pass the test?) It is obvious that in such a debate, the public should know what the charges are. Are the counts in the indictment what has been discussed previously? Are they strong? Are they weak? No one knows for sure. What we do know for sure is that in these highly politicized cases, the accuser benefits from secrecy. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/indictment-secrecy-repeats-pattern-of-past-efforts-targeting-trump 1
T&C Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ap-top-news/2023/04/04/donald-trump-to-surrender-to-history-making-criminal-charges "A conviction would not prevent Trump from running for or winning the presidency in 2024." 2
Tommy Callahan Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: Back to the thread. USUALLY THAT’S BECAUSE IF PEOPLE COULD READ IT, THEY’D LAUGH: Indictment secrecy repeats pattern of past efforts targeting Trump. Everyone in the universe knew that an indictment of former President Donald Trump would be an explosive event in the political, legal, and media worlds. It would be something everybody talked about, dominating television, the internet, social media, radio, everything. And indeed, that has turned out to be the case. But here's the thing: Everyone is talking about Trump's indictment, but no one knows what Trump has been indicted for. The indictment is under seal until Tuesday, and outside of a small group of local prosecutors in Manhattan, no one knows the charges against Trump — not even Trump himself. We know what has been reported in recent weeks, that the indictment could be a strained effort to convert an old misdemeanor charge against Trump into a new campaign finance-related felony, but we don't really know what the document says. In the absence of facts, speculation flourishes, some of it in an atmosphere of high emotions. Is the indictment, in fact, "a misdemeanor that somebody put a suit on," in the words of former congressman and federal prosecutor Trey Gowdy? Does it document one of the most momentous crimes in U.S. history? Is democracy itself being tested? (And if so, how do we pass the test?) It is obvious that in such a debate, the public should know what the charges are. Are the counts in the indictment what has been discussed previously? Are they strong? Are they weak? No one knows for sure. What we do know for sure is that in these highly politicized cases, the accuser benefits from secrecy. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/indictment-secrecy-repeats-pattern-of-past-efforts-targeting-trump in every instance. trump never had due process. all one sided. from impeachment to Mueller and J6. Was theatre at the highest level. expensive to boot. Edited April 4, 2023 by Chris farley 1
Commsvet11 Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, yall said: You mean like the obvious ones you missed when you did your worst impression of Evelyn Wood? The hunting examples are clearly listed in those documents. Go right ahead refute away. 11 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Nope, just ad hominem attacks. its the script. it’s their fantasyland, 10 miles is such a distance, poor minorities aren’t capable of getting an ID, college kids can’t use a a piece of plastic with their picture on it ohhhh the humanity! 2
Roundybout Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: We as a nation are already there, and have been for decades. The D’s and the left go way too far with it now , as they do with just about everything else these days. Just outrageous stuff that no self respecting individual could agree with imo. Statistically we are not. There are wide gaps in things like healthcare and education. To say otherwise is a shocking display of sticking your head in the sand. Edited April 4, 2023 by Roundybout 1
Boatdrinks Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Nothing you say wasn't said before on Fox or any q forum. Yes the oh so scary war on whites!!! You are so oppressed!! Pansy. I suspect if you were 100% honest you'd share some tiki torch pics from some of your cool rallies. Another grumpy old man spoon fed his news. Your worse than most because you believe Trump. Your ignorant brethren at least know he's full of shiite. Oh Ron, now you’re just being ignorant. I’ve gone to Trump rallies - no tiki torches though. Don’t consider myself old and certainly not oppressed- though I did live through Covid in the Communist Republic of NYS ( that was an eye opener) but not an “ oppressor “ either. Trump and his policies make a lot of sense. You just have to navigate through some of the extraneous stuff in his speeches. I see plenty of segments from liberal news or things like “ the view” the racist Joy Reid etc. Even local news is polluted with such garbage these days. Thank goodness for Fox News as I can barely stand to listen to the refuse on most other networks. You keep on with your party that can’t define a woman, thinks America is bad, and that America can run solely on electric power. 1
Roundybout Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said: Go right ahead refute away. it’s their fantasyland, 10 miles is such a distance, poor minorities aren’t capable of getting an ID, college kids can’t use a a piece of plastic with their picture on it ohhhh the humanity! If you do not have a car, work two jobs and rely on public transit, then yes 10 miles is very far. 1 1
BillsFanNC Posted April 4, 2023 Author Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, T&C said: https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ap-top-news/2023/04/04/donald-trump-to-surrender-to-history-making-criminal-charges "A conviction would not prevent Trump from running for or winning the presidency in 2024." Says the Constitution. Cue the commies who will put on repeat "the rule of law" and "saving our democracy" while simultaneously shitt ing on the constitution. Edited April 4, 2023 by BillsFanNC 2
Roundybout Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said: Says the Constitution. Cue the commies who will put on repeat "the rule of law" and "saving our democracy" while simultaneously shitt ing on the constitution. Hopefully it'll be hard to run from a prison cell. 1
BillsFanNC Posted April 4, 2023 Author Posted April 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Oh Ron, now you’re just being ignorant. I’ve gone to Trump rallies - no tiki torches though. Don’t consider myself old and certainly not oppressed- though I did live through Covid in the Communist Republic of NYS ( that was an eye opener) but not an “ oppressor “ either. Trump and his policies make a lot of sense. You just have to navigate through some of the extraneous stuff in his speeches. I see plenty of segments from liberal news or things like “ the view” the racist Joy Reid etc. Even local news is polluted with such garbage these days. Thank goodness for Fox News as I can barely stand to listen to the refuse on most other networks. You keep on with your party that can’t define a woman, thinks America is bad, and that America can run solely on electric power. @L Ron Burgundy Get back to the circle jerk. Release. Calm. Don't let the TDS completely consume you. 1
Roundybout Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: that America can run solely on electric power. As opposed to what? Whale oil? The hell is this? 1
Boatdrinks Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: Statistically we are not. There are wide gaps in things like healthcare and education. Statistically we don’t all have to be. It’s pretty simple - focus on school. Get a job that has benefits. Adobe good habits , exercise take care of yourself. We live in the land of opportunity. Not the land of free stuff or the land where we make sure excellence is rewarded the same as mediocrity and failure. Sadly it’s trending in the wrong direction. There will always be gaps because of cultural differences. Some will succeed and others won’t. It’s just not someone else’s fault. A wise man once said “There are no failures of talent, only failures of character “ To realize this we must first acknowledge that there is such a thing as good and bad. 7 minutes ago, Roundybout said: If you do not have a car, work two jobs and rely on public transit, then yes 10 miles is very far. If you sit and do nothing, 10 miles may as well be 500. 1
Commsvet11 Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: If you do not have a car, work two jobs and rely on public transit, then yes 10 miles is very far. Ghost, no it’s not. Getting an ID isn’t a daily thing it’s a once every few years do not tell me that person who can work two jobs and rides bus to Saudi jobs can’t make it ten miles somewhere. This why those on the right don’t respect your views. They are stupid and made up scenarios. 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 52 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Wanting better treatment of historically marginalized groups = hates caucasians in your tiny, sad little world apparently. But while there are good intentions at work here for "better treatment" its characterized by "equity" as "privilege". Just in the opposite direction as the historical preferential treatment/privilege argument social justice types rally against when it comes to whites. It all seems like revenge. 1
Roundybout Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 Just now, Commsvet11 said: Ghost, no it’s not. Getting an ID isn’t a daily thing it’s a once every few years do not tell me that person who can work two jobs and rides bus to Saudi jobs can’t make it ten miles somewhere. This why those on the right don’t respect your views. They are stupid and made up scenarios. Wouldn't be a problem if Election Day was a federal holiday with mandatory closures for business to give employees a time to vote. Or We could continue to make it easier to vote with mail ballots and absentee voting. Your choice. 1 1
Boatdrinks Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: As opposed to what? Whale oil? The hell is this? As opposed to the USA’s plentiful natural gas that NY and it’s horse - faced governor are trying to get rid of right now… as opposed to the American oil that Biden couldn’t wait to close the spigot on. Are you paying attention ? 1
Roundybout Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Statistically we don’t all have to be. It’s pretty simple - focus on school. Get a job that has benefits. Adobe good habits , exercise take care of yourself. And if you live in a poor area with mediocre schools and little access to healthy food? 4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: There will always be gaps because of cultural differences. Gaps because of cultural differences should not exist. Everyone should have equal opportunity to succeed no matter where they are from. John Rawls' philosophy is what I subscribe to. 6 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: If you sit and do nothing, 10 miles may as well be 500 If you have two kids, two jobs and no car then yes. Come on. 2
Boatdrinks Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Wouldn't be a problem if Election Day was a federal holiday with mandatory closures for business to give employees a time to vote. Or We could continue to make it easier to vote with mail ballots and absentee voting. Your choice. Oh geez , there’s tons of early voting if you haven’t been living under a rock. Mail ballots should be requested and minimal 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: @L Ron Burgundy Get back to the circle jerk. Release. Calm. Don't let the TDS completely consume you. I thought you had everyone that scares you on ignore? Did that fleshy patch grow a pair? Ooooh I am excited for you!! 1
Roundybout Posted April 4, 2023 Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: As opposed to the USA’s plentiful natural gas that NY and it’s horse - faced governor are trying to get rid of right now… as opposed to the American oil that Biden couldn’t wait to close the spigot on. Are you paying attention ? You said "run on electricity." Biden just approved a massive drilling project in the Arctic. Pay attention.
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