All_Pro_Bills Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: We shouldn’t provide treatment to people if it is profitable to do so? Its debatable whether trans surgery is a treatment solution or exploitation by the medical an social justice communities when it comes to dealing with children. Along with disclosure of all potential mental and physical risks (like buyers remorse many experience) and the necessary patient consent.
aristocrat Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: We shouldn’t provide treatment to people if it is profitable to do so? no we should but realize why they’re running to do this stuff and stepping over each other to do so. Rarely if ever does this type of furor work out well for the victims…the kids in this case. Trans numbers are sky rocketing and certainly not all of them are actually trans. the government is involved supporting trans surgeries on kids just look at what bidens people are saying. trans people exist and should get help. The issue is how you treat them as it’s a mental disorder. You don’t treat all mental disorders by doing body modification do you? There is a good percentage that end up de transitioning so what should happen to the docs if that person has had permanent body moss?
ChiGoose Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Its debatable whether trans surgery is a treatment solution or exploitation by the medical an social justice communities when it comes to dealing with children. Along with disclosure of all potential mental and physical risks (like buyers remorse many experience) and the necessary patient consent. 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: no we should but realize why they’re running to do this stuff and stepping over each other to do so. Rarely if ever does this type of furor work out well for the victims…the kids in this case. Trans numbers are sky rocketing and certainly not all of them are actually trans. the government is involved supporting trans surgeries on kids just look at what bidens people are saying. trans people exist and should get help. The issue is how you treat them as it’s a mental disorder. You don’t treat all mental disorders by doing body modification do you? There is a good percentage that end up de transitioning so what should happen to the docs if that person has had permanent body moss? Can we please actually look at what gender affirming care for minors actually is? You’re all so focused on the surgery part when that is very rare and doesn’t represent the typical case. Also, as to the higher rates of Transpeople, I’ll leave you with this chart
aristocrat Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: Can we please actually look at what gender affirming care for minors actually is? You’re all so focused on the surgery part when that is very rare and doesn’t represent the typical case. Also, as to the higher rates of Transpeople, I’ll leave you with this chart we’re just saying no puberty blockers and surgeries. No permanent body damage. Not saying no to all affirming care. 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Can we please actually look at what gender affirming care for minors actually is? You’re all so focused on the surgery part when that is very rare and doesn’t represent the typical case. Also, as to the higher rates of Transpeople, I’ll leave you with this chart Also, us and Canada seem to be the only countries with these massive trans numbers. Weird
ChiGoose Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, aristocrat said: we’re just saying no puberty blockers and surgeries. No permanent body damage. Not saying no to all affirming care. “I’m not saying no to all affirming care, just certain ones that are approved by the medical community and really help Transpeople.” Also, not only are puberty blockers reversible, they are used in non-trans kids for treatment of issues, allow patients to put off surgery until they are more mature, and yes, reduce the risk of suicide
aristocrat Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: “I’m not saying no to all affirming care, just certain ones that are approved by the medical community and really help Transpeople.” Also, not only are puberty blockers reversible, they are used in non-trans kids for treatment of issues, allow patients to put off surgery until they are more mature, and yes, reduce the risk of suicide https://www.transgendertrend.com/nhs-no-longer-puberty-blockers-reversible/ why are democrats for not charging kids cause their brains don’t develop until age 24 but will allow permanent body modifications? 7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: “I’m not saying no to all affirming care, just certain ones that are approved by the medical community and really help Transpeople.” Also, not only are puberty blockers reversible, they are used in non-trans kids for treatment of issues, allow patients to put off surgery until they are more mature, and yes, reduce the risk of suicide https://www.binary.org.au/new_studies_prove_puberty_blockers_are_not_reversible
aristocrat Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: “I’m not saying no to all affirming care, just certain ones that are approved by the medical community and really help Transpeople.” Also, not only are puberty blockers reversible, they are used in non-trans kids for treatment of issues, allow patients to put off surgery until they are more mature, and yes, reduce the risk of suicide https://www.etonline.com/jazz-jennings-opens-up-about-her-gender-confirmation-surgery-111747?amp she had trouble finding a surgeon because the blockers stopped the growth and complicated the transition. What were you saying about reversible?
ChiGoose Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://www.transgendertrend.com/nhs-no-longer-puberty-blockers-reversible/ why are democrats for not charging kids cause their brains don’t develop until age 24 but will allow permanent body modifications? https://www.binary.org.au/new_studies_prove_puberty_blockers_are_not_reversible 15 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://www.etonline.com/jazz-jennings-opens-up-about-her-gender-confirmation-surgery-111747?amp she had trouble finding a surgeon because the blockers stopped the growth and complicated the transition. What were you saying about reversible? So medical treatment has side effects? This is honestly good information but doesn’t change my opinion that these decisions should be up to the patient with informed consent (and guardian if the patient is a minor). I guess I’m just not a big government person like you, but I feel that these decisions should be between a patient and their doctor, and not their local state rep.
aristocrat Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: So medical treatment has side effects? This is honestly good information but doesn’t change my opinion that these decisions should be up to the patient with informed consent (and guardian if the patient is a minor). I guess I’m just not a big government person like you, but I feel that these decisions should be between a patient and their doctor, and not their local state rep. you said it was reversible. Now they’re side effects? Ok
aristocrat Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: So medical treatment has side effects? This is honestly good information but doesn’t change my opinion that these decisions should be up to the patient with informed consent (and guardian if the patient is a minor). I guess I’m just not a big government person like you, but I feel that these decisions should be between a patient and their doctor, and not their local state rep. big government
Tiberius Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 The Biden administration on Thursday proposed new regulations that would allow schools to bar transgender athletes from participating in competitive high school and college sports, but disallow blanket bans on the athletes that have been approved across the country. The proposal was met with mixed reaction from transgender rights activists, with some saying that it provided a welcome set of protections for trans students and others saying the regulations could offer a roadmap for those who want to discriminate.
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HamSandwhich Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Can we please actually look at what gender affirming care for minors actually is? You’re all so focused on the surgery part when that is very rare and doesn’t represent the typical case. Also, as to the higher rates of Transpeople, I’ll leave you with this chart Chemical castration is better? Left handers = Trans? What the heck are you talking about? You’re off your rocker man. Lolololol Edited April 6, 2023 by HamSandwhich 1 1
HamSandwhich Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Biden WH Has Troubling Reaction to 'Tennessee Three' Expulsion Efforts After 'Transurrection' The fallout from the Tennessee “transurrection” that took place in the Tennessee Capitol building just three days after 28-year-old transgender person Audrey Hale murdered six including three children at a Nashville Christian elementary school continues, as one of the ringleaders of the capitol storming – Democrat state Rep. Justin Jones – has officially been expelled from the House over his actions. Jones was one of three woke Democratic state lawmakers who whipped up the outrage mob while on the House floor, with bullhorns in hand, chanting things like “no action, no peace,” aiding the far-left agitators in the gallery and in the hallway with disrupting official proceedings. (Well now we know where Roundy got his "marching orders") I wish I could say I was shocked to see the Biden White House again pretend that the trans community was the real victim of the Nashville mass murders, but I’m not, because they did it the very week that six innocent lives were taken by a person who identified as “he/him” and who reportedly had issues with her Christian family allegedly not accepting her LGBTQ status. In fact, it’s almost as despicable as what the “protesters” said during the day they stormed the capitol building, with several of them holding up seven fingers to suggest that Hale was the seventh victim of the mass shooting she carried out. https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2023/04/06/biden-wh-has-troubling-reaction-to-tennessee-three-expulsion-efforts-after-transurrection-n727645 It’s simply adults finally standing up and saying we are not playing these stupid games anymore, finally. I listened to the pathetic grandstanding from those being expelled and they’re racist, sexist, rhetoric calling all of the republicans everything under the sun and making them out to be the devil. Finally some sort of semblance of order brought back, some decorum, and the liberals hate that because they’re all about chaos and burning down the system 1 1
JaCrispy Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: Chemical castration is better? Left handers = Trans? What the heck are you talking about? You’re off your rocker man. Lolololol Might wanna think twice about dating a left handed person…😉
HamSandwhich Posted April 6, 2023 Posted April 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Might wanna think twice about dating a left handed person…😉 ….but but but, I’m left handed 😳 2
JaCrispy Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: ….but but but, I’m left handed 😳 Then it’s a good thing we aren’t dating…😉👍
HamSandwhich Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, JaCrispy said: Then it’s a good thing we aren’t dating…😉👍 How do you know for sure? 🤔
JaCrispy Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 Just now, HamSandwhich said: How do you know for sure? 🤔 1
BillsFanNC Posted April 7, 2023 Author Posted April 7, 2023 Why Bud Light went all in on trans and why boycotting won't help. CEI scores. Corporations have been beholden to these commies for decades. It has nothing to do with actually being behind the trans movement, the trans movement is simply a tool that if promoted in your face enough, will continue tearing the country apart faster. Rest assured if commies ever take full control, homosexuals and trans people will be among the first groups persecuted. It's going to get much worse folks. Wake up. 1 1
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