Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 27, 2023 Posted May 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Andy1 said: I don’t understand the relevance of the shooter being trans. Does the media investigate and report the straight/gay/trans status of other mass killers? A more productive activity would be working on how to prevent future mass killings, regardless of who the shooter is. I can help- people are tired of main stream media pushing narratives and doing zero investigative journalism when one of these events doesn’t fit the narrative. 1
SCBills Posted May 27, 2023 Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Andy1 said: I don’t understand the relevance of the shooter being trans. Does the media investigate and report the straight/gay/trans status of other mass killers? A more productive activity would be working on how to prevent future mass killings, regardless of who the shooter is. When we get this criticism it basically comes off as “why are you noticing things?” There is relevance if you believe we are dealing with underlying issues causing someone to pull the trigger as being a major piece of the gun violence puzzle. If you don’t … well then it’s simply us pointing out that we get a week of in-depth media analysis on the dangers of straight white men when it’s a straight white man, and then it’s quickly swept under the rug when it doesn’t fit the media narrative. ….or apparently now, we get told they’re white supremacists anyway, regardless of color. The media narrative is then used to drive our President’s weaponizing of the FBI/CIA/Justice Department to then rationalize to the public why they are targeting pro-lifers and parents protesting teachers unions. ….because, after all, “white supremacy” is our biggest threat. Edited May 27, 2023 by SCBills 1
BillStime Posted May 27, 2023 Posted May 27, 2023 On 5/26/2023 at 12:44 AM, aristocrat said: community notes are great It’s funny that you, @Chris farley, @B-Man, and @Westsidenever laugh and cheer on the guys in this thread:
aristocrat Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, BillStime said: It’s funny that you, @Chris farley, @B-Man, and @Westsidenever laugh and cheer on the guys in this thread: whataboutism
BillStime Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 Just now, aristocrat said: whataboutism Oh no it is not - it is all about bigotry
Andy1 Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, SCBills said: When we get this criticism it basically comes off as “why are you noticing things?” There is relevance if you believe we are dealing with underlying issues causing someone to pull the trigger as being a major piece of the gun violence puzzle. If you don’t … well then it’s simply us pointing out that we get a week of in-depth media analysis on the dangers of straight white men when it’s a straight white man, and then it’s quickly swept under the rug when it doesn’t fit the media narrative. ….or apparently now, we get told they’re white supremacists anyway, regardless of color. The media narrative is then used to drive our President’s weaponizing of the FBI/CIA/Justice Department to then rationalize to the public why they are targeting pro-lifers and parents protesting teachers unions. ….because, after all, “white supremacy” is our biggest threat. I have never heard reporters describe a mass killer as a “straight white man”. So this is about debunking the emphasis on white supremacy being a motivation for violence? That makes no sense, but okay… The motivation of the killer is always something to be investigated but that alone won’t stop future killings. Personally, I believe the good Americans working at the FBI if they claim white supremacy groups are a rising source of violence. 3
SCBills Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Andy1 said: I have never heard reporters describe a mass killer as a “straight white man”. So this is about debunking the emphasis on white supremacy being a motivation for violence? That makes no sense, but okay… The motivation of the killer is always something to be investigated but that alone won’t stop future killings. Personally, I believe the good Americans working at the FBI if they claim white supremacy groups are a rising source of violence. The naivety is astounding 1
aristocrat Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 41 minutes ago, BillStime said: Oh no it is not - it is all about bigotry They would call you a bigot for denying surgeries for kids under 18
Andy1 Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 39 minutes ago, SCBills said: The naivety is astounding If I hang out here long enough, maybe someday I will achieve enlightenment to see and understand the truth.
SCBills Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Andy1 said: If I hang out here long enough, maybe someday I will achieve enlightenment to see and understand the truth.
Pokebball Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 3 hours ago, BillStime said: Oh no it is not - it is all about bigotry You really should be more accepting of repubs
Andy1 Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 11 hours ago, SCBills said: So the FBI overstepped its authority. It’s not the first time in our history that has happened. It’s up to Congress to rein it in then. That doesn’t mean the agency is rotten to its core. The people working there are protecting this country by investigating crime and enforcing our laws. Before Trump, did you believe the FBI was corrupt? If the FBI is anti republican , why didn’t they go after Bush 1 or Bush 2? If anything, people in law enforcement would generally lean to the right politically. You can’t only support them when they are investigating Dems.
SCBills Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Andy1 said: So the FBI overstepped its authority. It’s not the first time in our history that has happened. It’s up to Congress to rein it in then. That doesn’t mean the agency is rotten to its core. The people working there are protecting this country by investigating crime and enforcing our laws. Before Trump, did you believe the FBI was corrupt? If the FBI is anti republican , why didn’t they go after Bush 1 or Bush 2? If anything, people in law enforcement would generally lean to the right politically. You can’t only support them when they are investigating Dems. It’s not a left or right thing .. our intelligence agencies are corrupted and need to be rebuilt from the ground up. Here’s an example of them going after the left. …and if you want to learn about the CIA, start off by reading up on Operation Northwoods to see what they’re capable of. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/19/fbi-surveillance-black-lives-matter-protesters-00097924 Edited May 28, 2023 by SCBills 1
BillStime Posted May 28, 2023 Posted May 28, 2023 10 hours ago, Pokebball said: You really should be more accepting of repubs You should hate less.
reddogblitz Posted May 29, 2023 Posted May 29, 2023 13 hours ago, BillStime said: You should hate less. You should hate less. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted May 29, 2023 Posted May 29, 2023 This new world where (public) corporations have the first amendment is lit.
BillStime Posted May 29, 2023 Posted May 29, 2023 9 hours ago, reddogblitz said: You should hate less. Bigots and homophobes? Nope.
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