Transsurrection: All the documented events that aren't happening. TRANS WOMEN ARE MEN

[SectionC3]

Just now, Pokebball said:

Disagree. If you can get a book on the internet or in a public library the book isn't banned. Is there anything, anything at all, that you believe would be inappropriate in a grade school library?

We disagree on the dictionary definition of ban.  For yours to work, you’d have to fire up the DeLorean, get a timely lightning strike, and get Noah Webster on board before he takes his dirt nap.  

 

As to your other point, I’m not the guy looking to ban, so it’s not my list to make.  But I believe my answer lies in other posts.  

Just now, aristocrat said:

So no age restrictions on any books? 
 

can you buy the books outside of schools? If so it’s just a restriction

A restriction, like a prohibition?  Which *gasp* is a ban.  

[Pokebball]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

 

That’s sort of the point.  Nobody disputes that something like a playboy magazine shouldn’t appear in a public or school library.  Nobody.  It’s when we get into the removal of non-explicit material covering certain subject areas that I have a problem.  If MAGA wants to say that children shouldn’t have access to explicit materials, and wants to define “explicit” as pornographic, then I’d be on board. (Defining “pornographic” is its own nettlesome issue, but that’s sort of a “know it when you see it” thing.)  But MAGA hasn’t framed its complaint as such. Again to my anecdotal interpretation, the issue doesn’t rest simply with explicit materials, but with a wider swath of literature and thought that is not explicit and which respect to which MAGA simply disagrees.  That is not my America. 

Why do you feel the need to describe a difference of opinion to yours as MAGA? That's where any sort of meaningful discussion on our differences goes south, and quickly.

 

For example, I think a book describing a #### ###, with pictures< is inappropriate. You?

[SectionC3]

9 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

So no age restrictions on any books? 
 

can you buy the books outside of schools? If so it’s just a restriction

You and Tipper Gore might have more in common than you think.  

6 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Why do you feel the need to describe a difference of opinion to yours as MAGA? That's where any sort of meaningful discussion on our differences goes south, and quickly.

 

For example, I think a book describing a #### ###, with pictures< is inappropriate. You?

This particular difference is a MAGA issue. 

Edited May 2, 2023 by SectionC3

[Pokebball]

4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

We disagree on the dictionary definition of ban.  For yours to work, you’d have to fire up the DeLorean, get a timely lightning strike, and get Noah Webster on board before he takes his dirt nap.  

 

As to your other point, I’m not the guy looking to ban, so it’s not my list to make.  But I believe my answer lies in other posts.  

A restriction, like a prohibition?  Which *gasp* is a ban.  

Just above you support restricting certain content. And I don't consider you a banner. Interesting?

[Pokebball]

3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

This particular different is a MAGA issue. 

Yeah, OK  

 

I guess you're in a self imposed stalemate

Edited May 2, 2023 by Pokebball

[aristocrat]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

You and Tipper Gore might have more in common than you think.  

This particular different is a MAGA issue. 

You’re entitled to your own opinion but your own facts. Definitions of words matter and just cause you keep using the word ban will not change its definition 

[SectionC3]

4 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

You’re entitled to your own opinion but your own facts. Definitions of words matter and just cause you keep using the word ban will not change its definition 

The definition is used appropriately.  If you disagree, then I suggest doing such things as picking up empty cans (not Bud Light cans, of course), or holding a bake sale to raise funds sufficient to purchase a dictionary.  A garage sale may also satisfy this purpose. 

Edited May 2, 2023 by SectionC3

[Pokebball]

11 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

We disagree on the dictionary definition of ban.  For yours to work, you’d have to fire up the DeLorean, get a timely lightning strike, and get Noah Webster on board before he takes his dirt nap.  

 

Love the passion and drama. For shyts and giggles, I looked up the definition, and your position on the definition couldn't be further from your claim.

[SectionC3]

6 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Just above you support restricting certain content. And I don't consider you a banner. Interesting?

I don’t get your point.  If you’re asking whether I believe pornography should be banned from publicly-funded K-12 schools and from public libraries, the answer is an emphatic yes.  If you’re trying to get into some sort of semantics game, unfortunately for you I don’t find that sufficiently amusing at the moment to participate.  Maybe later, maybe tomorrow.  But semantics just isn’t funny enough for me right now. 

2 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Love the passion and drama. For shyts and giggles, I looked up the definition, and your position on the definition couldn't be further from your claim.

And yet you didn’t publish your definition.  

[BillStime]

10 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

This wouldn't be a thing if trans men didn't demand to compete in biological women's sports. Your solution is degrading women. Why the hate towards women? Let's either have trans men compete against biological men or lets start a separate trans league and let trans men compete against other trans men?

 

 

So, lets expose EVERY CHILD - literally, expose - EVERY CHILD's GENITALS - so that we can weed out transMEN participating in WOMENS' sports.

 

Got it.

 

Meanwhile, GYM JORDAN probably loves the idea... 

 

 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

This is the part where the left says Porn is OK, as long as one is not aroused by it.  then it's not actual porn, amirite?

 

 

 

 

[Pokebball]

2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I don’t get your point.  If you’re asking whether I believe pornography should be banned from publicly-funded K-12 schools and from public libraries, the answer is an emphatic yes.  If you’re trying to get into some sort of semantics game, unfortunately for you I don’t find that sufficiently amusing at the moment to participate.  Maybe later, maybe tomorrow.  But semantics just isn’t funny enough for me right now. 

And yet you didn’t publish your definition.  

I trust my position and disagreement with you is clear to you as well. When you feel like disengaging, have at it. After all, you self imposed the stalemate

[SectionC3]

Just now, Chris farley said:

This is the part where the left says Porn is OK, as long as one is not aroused by it.  then it's not actual porn, amirite?

 

 

 

 

Define “the left.”

[Pokebball]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

So, lets expose EVERY CHILD - literally, expose - EVERY CHILD's GENITALS - so that we can weed out transMEN participating in WOMENS' sports.

 

Got it.

 

Meanwhile, GYM JORDAN probably loves the idea... 

 

 

 

 

How did we get to exposing every child's genitals?

[SectionC3]

Just now, Pokebball said:

I trust my position and disagreement with you is clear to you as well. When you feel like disengaging, have at it. After all, you self imposed the stalemate

I don’t even know what the stalemate is.  You’re playing some semantical game about “ban.”  You disagree with Noah Webster with respect to the definition of the word.  Fine.  Maybe you have a problem with linguists.  Whatever.  Beyond that, I have no clue what you’re talking about. 

1 minute ago, Pokebball said:

How did we get to exposing every child's genitals?

You have a point on the semantics of it.  Perhaps what should have been said is exposing the genitals of every child who wishes to compete or to attempt to compete in interscholastic sports.  

 

A smaller universe of those who must submit to an inspection of their junk, to be sure, but it doesn’t change the fact that said inspection is really, really messed up. 

[Tommy Callahan]

4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

You’re playing some semantical game about “ban.”

You're playing some semantical game about the definition of "pornography."

 

[SectionC3]

Just now, Chris farley said:

You're playing some semantical game about the definition of "pornography."

 

It’s Potter Stewart’s game.  Google him.  If you get Internet in that van down by the river. 

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

How did we get to exposing every child's genitals?

 

Are you purposely trying to deny that genital examinations are NOT part of these bills?

 

 

[Pokebball]

3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I don’t even know what the stalemate is.  You’re playing some semantical game about “ban.”  You disagree with Noah Webster with respect to the definition of the word.  Fine.  Maybe you have a problem with linguists.  Whatever.  Beyond that, I have no clue what you’re talking about. 

I don't know what your reason for your stalemate is either. I used Webster. You are taking an extremely narrow view IMO

 

I stated above that I was kinda in the middle of this issue. I think both extreme viewpoints here are whacked. There's a pretty simple and reasonable compromise and you and other extremists refuse to yield, at all.

5 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Are you purposely trying to deny that genital examinations are NOT part of these bills?

 

 

Of every single child? Absolutely

[SectionC3]

6 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

I don't know what your reason for your stalemate is either. I used Webster. You are taking an extremely narrow view IMO

 

I stated above that I was kinda in the middle of this issue. I think both extreme viewpoints here are whacked. There's a pretty simple and reasonable compromise and you and other extremists refuse to yield, at all.

Of every single child? Absolutely

 This is where we disagree.  You think a ban has to be universal.  I recognize the reality that a ban can apply to certain places.  (Dogs are banned from the grocery store.  Guns are banned in movie theaters.  Christians are banned from Mecca.) My view is perfectly consistent with the dictionary definition (dictionary.com, for what it’s worth), which does not contain the universality component you wish to project.