reddogblitz Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 6 hours ago, BillStime said: Yeah you couldn’t find a number because I never mentioned one… lmao - they try so hard You keep digging yourself in further and further and telling everyone you don’t know wtf you’re talking about. Go do some actual research. And forcing a ten year old to deliver her rapists baby is pleasant? I don't know, "most" would indicate to me at least 51%. Any stats to back that up? Even the more rabid trans activists say 40% even though most articles I find put the 40%-50% number to indicate those who have "seriously considered" (whatever that means) suicide. Not sure where you get your >50% number from. If you can provide it I'd be interested to read it.
reddogblitz Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) I've been following the discussion between @BillStime and @aristocrat about puberty blockers and whether they sterilize children or not. While it may be true puberty blockers on their own don't, but when then followed with hormone treatments, they do. And almost all that do puberty blockers go on to hormone treatments. Quote The Tavistock Center published its study the day after the High Court’s ruling. The study began in 2011 and followed 44 children ages 12 to 15 for three years. Youth participants were urged to store their gametes before taking blockers, and female participants reported they did not menstruate while taking the drugs, indicating the practitioners anticipated and observed effects on the patients’ reproductive development. Endocrinologist Michael Laidlaw from Rocklin, Calif., noted that children in the study who took puberty blockers exhibited significantly less bone density than their peers. That causes stunted height and puts them at greater risk for osteoporosis and fractures in adulthood, he said. Given the study’s findings that nearly all children who take puberty blockers end up on cross-sex hormones, it is clear that the drugs do more than give children time to pause to consider their gender identity. Cross-sex hormones carry side effects including sterility, increased risk of cardiovascular disease, and increased risk of breast and uterus cancers, and other harmful psychoactive effects of high-dose hormones such as mood swings and even psychosis, Laidlaw said. Why do you suppose they were advised to store their gametes? https://wng.org/roundups/study-effects-of-puberty-blockers-can-last-a-lifetime-1617220389 Dr. Jeremi Carswell, a pediatric endocrinologist at Boston Childrens Hospital says the same thing. Quote Carswell uses the example of a "12 or 13 year-old testicle-bearing person who hasn't really had too much puberty" to explain that putting in a puberty blocker at that early stage of development and following it with estrogen leaves the young person infertile. https://thepostmillennial.com/boston-childrens-hospital-gender-doc-admits-puberty-blockers-can-cause-sterility-in-minors Edited May 1, 2023 by reddogblitz 1
BillStime Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 11 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Even the more rabid trans activists say 40% even though most articles I find put the 40%-50% number to indicate those who have "seriously considered" And you don't think those percentages are HIGH ENOUGH? jfc 11 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Not sure where you get your >50% number from. There you go - there is your MAGIC number: Female to male adolescents reported the highest rate of attempted suicide (50.8%), followed by adolescents who identified as not exclusively male or female (41.8%), male to female adolescents (29.9%), questioning adolescents (27.9%), female adolescents (17.6%), and male adolescents (9.8%). Identifying as nonheterosexual exacerbated the risk for all adolescents except for those who did not exclusively identify as male or female (ie, nonbinary). For transgender adolescents, no other sociodemographic characteristic was associated with suicide attempts. Here is another one for you: More than 50% of trans and non-binary youth in US considered suicide this year, survey says Want to know another UNCOMFORTABLE fact for the bigots out there like @aristocrat @BillsFanNCand the Matt Walsh's of the world don't want to admit: Suicide Risk Reduces 73% in Transgender, Nonbinary Youths with Gender-Affirming Care Idiots need to stop listening to DR and Matt Walsh - and actually read about the struggles these children and families face. This type of care is NOT given out on a whim. 5 hours ago, reddogblitz said: While it may be true puberty blockers on their own don't, but when then followed with hormone treatments, they do. And almost all that do puberty blockers go on to hormone treatments. Exactly - but @aristocratread an article from a magazine that didn't get into THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. He kept repeating the same BS that puberty blockers cause sterilization...
Tommy Callahan Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ basic statistics. they only polled the people that came into the DR office. thats not scientific ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "This sample was, however, limited to individuals who obtained care at a single, urban community health center,2 limiting the generalizability of results." 1
aristocrat Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, BillStime said: And you don't think those percentages are HIGH ENOUGH? jfc There you go - there is your MAGIC number: Female to male adolescents reported the highest rate of attempted suicide (50.8%), followed by adolescents who identified as not exclusively male or female (41.8%), male to female adolescents (29.9%), questioning adolescents (27.9%), female adolescents (17.6%), and male adolescents (9.8%). Identifying as nonheterosexual exacerbated the risk for all adolescents except for those who did not exclusively identify as male or female (ie, nonbinary). For transgender adolescents, no other sociodemographic characteristic was associated with suicide attempts. Here is another one for you: More than 50% of trans and non-binary youth in US considered suicide this year, survey says Want to know another UNCOMFORTABLE fact for the bigots out there like @aristocrat @BillsFanNCand the Matt Walsh's of the world don't want to admit: Suicide Risk Reduces 73% in Transgender, Nonbinary Youths with Gender-Affirming Care Idiots need to stop listening to DR and Matt Walsh - and actually read about the struggles these children and families face. This type of care is NOT given out on a whim. Exactly - but @aristocratread an article from a magazine that didn't get into THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. He kept repeating the same BS that puberty blockers cause sterilization... lol I was asking you to correct me. You know nothing about this. Literally nothing. The kids need mental health help. Nobody is saying no to mental health services 1
BillStime Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, aristocrat said: lol I was asking you to correct me. You know nothing about this. Literally nothing. The kids need mental health help. Nobody is saying no to mental health services It’s not my job to educate bigots like you. You don’t care about these kids and the struggle they face. 27 minutes ago, Chris farley said: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ basic statistics. they only polled the people that came into the DR office. thats not scientific ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "This sample was, however, limited to individuals who obtained care at a single, urban community health center,2 limiting the generalizability of results." Then get own freakn stats you idiot. Comments like this prove you don’t give a fk about the actual issue. One is too many and you’re crying about stats over 50%. GTFOH
aristocrat Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, BillStime said: It’s not my job to educate bigots like you. You don’t care about these kids and the struggle they face. I do in fact. I’d rather see them get the mental health treatment they deserve. I just don’t buy into your threats that if you dont remove their genitals they will kill themselves. how young should kids be allowed to fully transition in your opinion?
BillStime Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, aristocrat said: I do in fact. I’d rather see them get the mental health treatment they deserve. I just don’t buy into your threats that if you dont remove their genitals they will kill themselves. how young should kids be allowed to fully transition in your opinion? After 18
B-Man Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Read this and weep A significant subset of people I know believe that the uprising against alphabet ideology is the result of a moral panic. Moral panics are very real and a pervasive theme in history. The Salem Witch Trials, for instance, were the result of a moral panic. In the 1980s millions of Americans became convinced that daycare facilities were run by Satan-worshipping child molesters, and while nobody was burned at the stake some people went to jail, and lives were ruined. The New York Times called it, aptly, the Satanic Panic. There were no witches or Satan-worshipping child-care workers draining blood from babies, yet lives were ruined and millions of people bought into the story. In this case, though, to the extent that there is a moral panic going on it is the myth that there is a “trans-genocide” and that social conservatives are engaged in a witch hunt in which kids are psychologically tortured, books are banned, and drag performers are being driven out of society. Less than the average of the general population ! None of this is remotely true. Nobody cares about drag shows except when they are aimed at children; not stocking books in middle-school libraries is not banning them, unless you believe that 99.999% of all books are banned (since so few books can be held in any library, no less a middle-school one), and the only people psychologically torturing kids are those who are telling them that they will kill themselves unless they go on puberty blockers, hormones, and eventually get mutilated. What is happening is something very different: children are indeed being groomed, sexualized, and psychologically ruined for the pleasure and self-satisfaction of adults. “Diversity” is not being celebrated; “tolerance” is not being promoted (quite the opposite!); pornography is being shoved in the faces of children; and kids are literally being recruited to perform for the sexual delight of adults. {snip} Objecting to this is not a war on drag. That would be like arguing that preventing 7-year-olds from going into R-rated movies is a war on art. I love the John Wick movies but wouldn’t take a young child to one, and wouldn’t consider taking a kid under 13-15 either. I am perfectly fine with theaters denying entrance to minors without a parent. It is simply a recognition that age-appropriateness matters. The same with books. Shoving a book that informs kids about how to log onto Grindr in the face of a 10 or 12-year-old is grooming them, and preventing these books from being distributed in schools is hardly extreme. https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/05/01/read-this-and-weep-for-humanity-n547217 1 1
B-Man Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Vivek Ramaswamy Schools Chuck Todd on the Evils of Transitioning Children. Democrats have a history of claiming to be the party of science. To them, their positions are objectively supported by scientific evidence, be they about abortion, the COVID-19 vaccines, or climate change. Yet, the “science” that they claim backs up their positions is not exactly true. The most recent example of this is the radical left’s endorsement of transgender ideology. On NBC’s Meet the Press when moderator Chuck Todd engaged in a debate with GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on this issue, particularly when it comes to children, Ramaswamy argued that it is reasonable to prohibit genital mutilation or chemical castration through puberty blockers for minors. Chuck Todd disagreed, offering some ginormous whoppers to support his position. “But below the age of 18, I think it’s perfectly legitimate to say that we won’t allow genital mutilation or chemical castration through puberty blockers,” Ramaswamy said. “You’re calling it that, but how do you know it’s that? Again, how do you know? Are you confident that you know that gender is as binary as you’re describing it? Are you confident?” For what it’s worth, Ramaswamy graduated from Harvard College summa ***** laude with an A.B. in biology and was a member of Phi Beta Kappa. Chuck Todd, however, attend George Washington University and majored in political science but didn’t earn a degree. Ramaswamy told Todd he was confident in his position. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/04/30/vivek-ramaswamy-schools-chuck-todd-on-the-evils-of-transitioning-children-n1691640 2 1
BillsFanNC Posted May 1, 2023 Author Posted May 1, 2023 Yes. More of this. Confront commie absurdity with even greater absurdity. Im certain condemnation of this brave woman of color by our transphobe racist white supremacists @BillStime @ChiGoose @Tiberius @redtail hawk awaits. 1 1
Tiberius Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Yes. More of this. Confront commie absurdity with even greater absurdity. Im certain condemnation of this brave woman of color by our transphobe racist white supremacists @BillStime @ChiGoose @Tiberius @redtail hawk awaits. What?
BillStime Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 And people wonder why LGTBQ are committing suicide at alarming rates. We have idiots like @BillsFanNC and @aristocratcheering on bigots who mock the LGTBQ community. SO MUCH WINNING, RIGHT GUYS? @BillsFanNCand @B-Man would gladly trade high suicide rates and further danger the LGTBQ community rather than talk solutions... but the cult can't talk solutions - that would kill their brand. And how else can Matt Walsh make money off degenerates? So much winning for the cult they seek "wins" off a marginalized community.
B-Man Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 Trans activist India Willoughby DRAGGED for bullying 12-year-old girl who said men can’t be women https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/05/01/trans-activist-india-willoughby-dragged-for-bullying-12-year-old-girl-who-said-men-cant-be-women-watch/ 1
aristocrat Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 2 hours ago, BillStime said: After 18 But the kids need to transition! You bigot! Jfc 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 2 hours ago, BillStime said: And people wonder why LGTBQ are committing suicide at alarming rates. We have idiots like @BillsFanNC and @aristocratcheering on bigots who mock the LGTBQ community. SO MUCH WINNING, RIGHT GUYS? @BillsFanNCand @B-Man would gladly trade high suicide rates and further danger the LGTBQ community rather than talk solutions... but the cult can't talk solutions - that would kill their brand. And how else can Matt Walsh make money off degenerates? So much winning for the cult they seek "wins" off a marginalized community. The only solution is for these people to accept who they are and stop pumping themselves full of hormones. 1
BillStime Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: But the kids need to transition! You bigot! Jfc More ignorance from the peanut gallery 1
BillsFanNC Posted May 1, 2023 Author Posted May 1, 2023 @BillStime @SectionC3 Why do you want to make porn available to kids at public school libraries?
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 4 hours ago, B-Man said: Vivek Ramaswamy Schools Chuck Todd on the Evils of Transitioning Children. Democrats have a history of claiming to be the party of science. To them, their positions are objectively supported by scientific evidence, be they about abortion, the COVID-19 vaccines, or climate change. Yet, the “science” that they claim backs up their positions is not exactly true. The most recent example of this is the radical left’s endorsement of transgender ideology. On NBC’s Meet the Press when moderator Chuck Todd engaged in a debate with GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on this issue, particularly when it comes to children, Ramaswamy argued that it is reasonable to prohibit genital mutilation or chemical castration through puberty blockers for minors. Chuck Todd disagreed, offering some ginormous whoppers to support his position. “But below the age of 18, I think it’s perfectly legitimate to say that we won’t allow genital mutilation or chemical castration through puberty blockers,” Ramaswamy said. “You’re calling it that, but how do you know it’s that? Again, how do you know? Are you confident that you know that gender is as binary as you’re describing it? Are you confident?” For what it’s worth, Ramaswamy graduated from Harvard College summa ***** laude with an A.B. in biology and was a member of Phi Beta Kappa. Chuck Todd, however, attend George Washington University and majored in political science but didn’t earn a degree. Ramaswamy told Todd he was confident in his position. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/04/30/vivek-ramaswamy-schools-chuck-todd-on-the-evils-of-transitioning-children-n1691640 Chuck Todd 😂 dude has no business taking Russert seat. The guy is an emotional tool and not very bright. Not surprised he couldn’t get through college. 1 1
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