BillStime Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, aristocrat said: oh I can read and not one of your points has turned out to be correct. Not one. the government is involved because when it comes to money people will do anything for it. Including carving up kids who can’t consent to sex let alone have their genitals cut off. Both are wrong But slaughtering them at school is just fine according to the simps.
Pokebball Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: But slaughtering them at school is just fine according to the simps. LOL Did you just respond to a post claiming 100% error, with one that is 100% in error.
BillStime Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 39 minutes ago, Pokebball said: LOL Did you just respond to a post claiming 100% error, with one that is 100% in error. huh
JaCrispy Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillStime said: But slaughtering them at school is just fine according to the simps. Your straw man argument is lazy, and no one takes you more seriously just because you keep posting it…Just a nickel’s worth of advice for ya…😉👍 Edited April 9, 2023 by JaCrispy
BillsFanNC Posted April 9, 2023 Author Posted April 9, 2023 @ChiGoose First it's up to school boards and administrators to monitor what's on the shelves. Petition them he/she/they says/say. Sure...go petition the very same commies to stop this madness who: 1. Allowed it to happen in the first place. 2. Will tell you that it's not happening right after being confronted with irrefutable evidence that it is. So yeah...***** you very much for that plan. Then he/she/they say/says that giving porn to kids in their school libraries can't be criminalized. This from the same person who supports.. Denying political prisoners rotting in DC jails their constitutional rights. Cheers the comical political indictment of the leading Presidential candidate. With all due disrespect, ***** you with your selective rule of law I'll ***** on the constitution when its politically expedient bull *****. Finally I have a proposal for the @ChiGoose and @BillStime of the world. 1. I give you one of these books shown to be on the shelves of elementary schools. Let's pick the one that talks to kids about tossing off and ***** slime. 2. You go to a local park, ask a random 7 year old to sit on a bench next to you and you read the book to him or her. 3. I record video of you reading this book to a minor and provide it to the kids parents and law enforcement. 4. I look forward to you continuing your defense of this crap during your ensuing legal troubles. 2
Buffarukus Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Lol. I thought you blocked me. Pathetic. So it’s ok for the government to have laws criminalizing books so long as they pinky swear not to enforce them? This is modern conservatism? you keep jumping topics to avoid the subject. the books that are being "banned" ARE the pornography. you just said cpp should get involved when children are shown pornography. THATS THE GOV! now your saying each book needs a law? asking repeatedly that gov shouldnt be involved with books. this from the guy that is perfectly ok with gov "getting involved" with social media companies about posts. your all over the map to simply avoid the very clear simple argument that kids should not be exposed. if we all agree then there is no gov required but we have people like you that will do backflips to justify it. entire thread is full of examples so "its not happening" "its just gay penguines" is thouroly debunked. not alot of hope that you arent fully on board with this sick pedo culture forming when all things are added up at this point. Edited April 9, 2023 by Buffarukus
BillsFanNC Posted April 9, 2023 Author Posted April 9, 2023 I did block you @ChiGoose. I see your bull#### when others who should have blocked you, quote you. ***** off.
BillsFanNC Posted April 9, 2023 Author Posted April 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: you keep jumping topics to avoid the subject. the books that are being "banned" ARE the pornography. you just said ccp should get involved when children are shown pornography. now your saying each book needs a law? asking repeatedly that gov shouldnt be involved with books. this from the guy that is perfectly ok with gov "getting involved" with social media companies about posts. your all over the map to simply avoid the very clear simple argument that kids should not be exposed. if we all agree then there is no gov required but we have people like you that will do backflips to justify it. entire thread is full of examples so "its not happening" "its just gay penguines" is thouroly debunked. not alot of hope that you arent fully on board with this sick pedo culture forming when all things are added up at this point. You're trying to use reasoned discussion with a commie. But still, thanks for the post.
Buffarukus Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: You're trying to use reasoned discussion with a commie. But still, thanks for the post. well its not for him particularly. it would be nice for him to see which side he really stands on but its not my first try so never had expectations. its for any lurkers who see these rationalizations and push back with facts and reasoning. simply blowing them off is what i would think society as a whole would do but even somthing so simple as not wanting kids exposed to sexuality at a young age has a built in mainstream narrative for them to follow so it doesnt come off as insane. level headed debate is the answer imo if you want to have moderate people who arent paying attention see where we are. otherwise THEY come off as the calm logical one and your just a guy insulting them. just my 2 cents. could be wrong. people dont seem to care much when they threaten and trap a young woman who is simply trying to defend womens rights and spaces. just give the aggressors a empathetic backing and anything is justifiable at this point. ( far right transphobic speaker is confronted by pro lgb mob). so im prob giving to much credit toward society being rational about anything anymore. Edited April 9, 2023 by Buffarukus 1 1
ALF Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 Minors should be off limits except for their parents and impartial medical professionals in that field.
ChiGoose Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Buffarukus said: you keep jumping topics to avoid the subject. the books that are being "banned" ARE the pornography. you just said cpp should get involved when children are shown pornography. THATS THE GOV! now your saying each book needs a law? asking repeatedly that gov shouldnt be involved with books. this from the guy that is perfectly ok with gov "getting involved" with social media companies about posts. your all over the map to simply avoid the very clear simple argument that kids should not be exposed. if we all agree then there is no gov required but we have people like you that will do backflips to justify it. entire thread is full of examples so "its not happening" "its just gay penguines" is thouroly debunked. not alot of hope that you arent fully on board with this sick pedo culture forming when all things are added up at this point. Beloved is pornography? The Handmaid’s Tale is pornography? Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West is pornography? Those books have been banned in compliance with Florida’s new censorship law. There are laws against distributing pornography to minors. If that’s actually what is happening, arrest the perpetrators. We don’t need a new law for it, they can be charged under existing law. My point is that we shouldn’t criminalize books. That’s it. If you think someone is giving porn to kids, then report them to the police. These laws aren’t about protecting kids. We already have laws in place to do that. These laws exist solely to gain political support and dupe people. 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Beloved is pornography? The Handmaid’s Tale is pornography? Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West is pornography? Those books have been banned in compliance with Florida’s new censorship law. There are laws against distributing pornography to minors. If that’s actually what is happening, arrest the perpetrators. We don’t need a new law for it, they can be charged under existing law. My point is that we shouldn’t criminalize books. That’s it. If you think someone is giving porn to kids, then report them to the police. These laws aren’t about protecting kids. We already have laws in place to do that. These laws exist solely to gain political support and dupe people. DeSantis brand is calibrated for the modern, social media based, validation driven media environment. So obviously it's going to be based on virtue signaling. That's why he's getting pulled down these pearl clutching, nanny state rabbit holes instead of campaigning for the nomination. Trump hit him for being a groomer and a pedo-enabler, and he'll keep it up until DeSantis finds a response. These feel-good laws were supposed to vaccinate DeSantis against this strategy and failed. 1 1
aristocrat Posted April 9, 2023 Posted April 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Beloved is pornography? The Handmaid’s Tale is pornography? Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West is pornography? Those books have been banned in compliance with Florida’s new censorship law. There are laws against distributing pornography to minors. If that’s actually what is happening, arrest the perpetrators. We don’t need a new law for it, they can be charged under existing law. My point is that we shouldn’t criminalize books. That’s it. If you think someone is giving porn to kids, then report them to the police. These laws aren’t about protecting kids. We already have laws in place to do that. These laws exist solely to gain political support and dupe people. woman reads approved books gets called out for violating tv standards for reading book lol. There are in fact books inappropriate for certain ages. it has been amazing watching you get owned left and right here but somehow move on to the nest topic and start claiming intellectual superiority. To live in your head must be wild
ChiGoose Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, aristocrat said: woman reads approved books gets called out for violating tv standards for reading book lol. There are in fact books inappropriate for certain ages. it has been amazing watching you get owned left and right here but somehow move on to the nest topic and start claiming intellectual superiority. To live in your head must be wild I’ve never said there aren’t books that are inappropriate for certain ages. My argument has always been that the government shouldn’t be in the position of criminalizing books.
aristocrat Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: I’ve never said there aren’t books that are inappropriate for certain ages. My argument has always been that the government shouldn’t be in the position of criminalizing books. here’s the problem with this. The left keeps putting out books in schools that are inappropriate. The right says take them out. The left keeps them in. The right the files suit and removed them. The left cries censorship. The left also removes books not included in the bans and posts gaslighting pictures on the internet that fool people like you. Like the picture of empty bookshelves in the Florida school that had nothing to do with the ban lol Btw all the books are still able to buy through Amazon. like I said. Living in your brain must be a nightmare 2
Buffarukus Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Beloved is pornography? The Handmaid’s Tale is pornography? Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West is pornography? Those books have been banned in compliance with Florida’s new censorship law. There are laws against distributing pornography to minors. If that’s actually what is happening, arrest the perpetrators. We don’t need a new law for it, they can be charged under existing law. My point is that we shouldn’t criminalize books. That’s it. If you think someone is giving porn to kids, then report them to the police. These laws aren’t about protecting kids. We already have laws in place to do that. These laws exist solely to gain political support and dupe people. ok well handmaids tale premise is women are routinely raped. what age do you think that story is appropriate? whatever your answer what makes that correct for someone elses child? whatever answer can these "banned" books be picked up at a bookstore? if it can its not banned at all. its just not supplied at a school library PUBLIC school aka gov funded so gov is already involved for unsupervised children to take or deranged teachers to assign to other peoples children knowing it is innapropriate thats it. thats the crux of the hysteria is florida is removing questionable books that may be age inappropriate..and as been talked about in earlier replies most likely is washed out because there are far more sick examples that people and misguided teachers ARE DEMANDING be available or assigned under the darkness of night. a teacher desperately wants a story of rape to be in the curriculum? inform the parents to go buy the book. but that is a problem i guess because then the parents have no choice but to be aware of what it is that is being assigned when they go and get it from a section or bookstore that def is not the childrens section. Edited April 10, 2023 by Buffarukus 1
ChiGoose Posted April 10, 2023 Posted April 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: ok well handmaids tale premise is women are routinely raped. what age do you think that story is appropriate? whatever your answer what makes that correct for someone elses child? whatever answer can these "banned" books be picked up at a bookstore? if it can its not banned at all. its just not supplied at a school library PUBLIC school aka gov funded so gov is already involved for unsupervised children to take or deranged teachers to assign to other peoples children knowing it is innapropriate thats it. thats the crux of the hysteria is florida is removing questionable books that may be age inappropriate..and as been talked about in earlier replies most likely is washed out because there are far more sick examples that people and misguided teachers ARE DEMANDING be available or assigned under the darkness of night. a teacher desperately wants a story of rape to be in the curriculum? inform the parents to go buy the book. but that is a problem i guess because then the parents have no choice but to be aware of what it is that is being assigned when they go and get it from a section or bookstore that def is not the childrens section. The problem is making it a crime. In a sane world, you could have Handmaiden’s Tale in a school library where a teen could check it out. If a librarian let a 6 year old take it, then the librarian could be disciplined. But at no point has anyone committed a crime. If someone provides actual pornography to kids, then that person can already be charged with a crime under existing law.
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