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44 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

This is so beyond effed up I can’t believe there are people who actually support this type of barbarism on minors…

 

No doubt future generations will look back on the horror of this time period as one of the ultimate crimes against humanity…so sad…

 

 


For like the zillionth time, genital surgery on minors goes against the medical guidelines. Surgery on minors is extremely rare and if it is done, it’s generally top surgery performed after years of gender affirming care. 
 

Do you guys care at all that you’re being lied to? When you hear these outrageous claims that liberals are trying to chop up kids genitals, doesn’t it seem ludicrous? Do you ever think to look up what the actual medical guidelines are?


Bad faith actors are trying to boil down the entire range of different forms of gender affirming care into surgery and then lying about it. You’re being fooled and playing right into their hands. 
 

In general, what liberals want for trans kids is that they get age-appropriate medical community approved care from medical professionals with informed consent and parental support. That’s it. This BS about genital surgery is coming from people who seem to be incapable of not thinking about kids’ junk. 

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1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

This is so beyond effed up I can’t believe there are people who actually support this type of barbarism on minors…

 

No doubt future generations will look back on the horror of this time period as one of the ultimate crimes against humanity…so sad…

 

 

They will certainly look at it as a time when many people lost their minds. Literally believed that down is up and that somehow the worst thing one can do is hurt someone’s feelings. Worse than committing violent crimes. So much so that it’s more offensive to refer to a deceased killer with the “ wrong pronouns” than it was for them to murder children in cold blood. So dumb it can’t be believed.

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These anti trans laws are all about keeping the religious right and conservatives in general motivated and focused on a cause as a voting block. Gay marriage is settled (a loss for them), Roe has been overturned. Next on the list is the rights of trans people and a nation-wide abortion ban. 

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6 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

They will certainly look at it as a time when many people lost their minds. Literally believed that down is up and that somehow the worst thing one can do is hurt someone’s feelings. Worse than committing violent crimes. So much so that it’s more offensive to refer to a deceased killer with the “ wrong pronouns” than it was for them to murder children in cold blood. So dumb it can’t be believed.


This post is so dumb it can’t be believed.

 

You live in a fantasy world. Log off the internet, it’s rotted your brains. 

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4 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

These anti trans laws are all about keeping the religious right and conservatives in general motivated and focused on a cause as a voting block. Gay marriage is settled (a loss for them), Roe has been overturned. Next on the list is the rights of trans people and a nation-wide abortion ban. 

Ridiculous. I’m conservative and not the least bit religious. Don’t care one bit about gay marriage. Heck , I don’t care about trans once they’re adults- but they don’t need or deserve special rights. Biological males have advantages over females and should not compete against them in scholastic / college sports. Parents should have a say but there should be some protection for kids from weirdos too. Children clearly shouldn’t make some decisions or be forced to go along with others. I think the biggest issue with trans though is the athletics. I also don’t agree with a national abortion ban. There are varying opinions on these things even amongst conservatives. The biggest issues are still the economy and foreign policy imo. 

9 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


This post is so dumb it can’t be believed.

 

You live in a fantasy world. Log off the internet, it’s rotted your brains. 

Maybe you missed it, but it actually happened. The media has stopped talking about it because it blows up their narrative, but it absolutely did. Some of us were paying attention and found it disgusting. 

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The first sex change operation was ~60 years ago.

 

And thanks to insecure nut jobs and their desire to own the libs - here we are.

 

Stupid people should not breed. 
 

Ever.

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21 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Maybe you missed it, but it actually happened. The media has stopped talking about it because it blows up their narrative, but it absolutely did. Some of us were paying attention and found it disgusting. 

You are saying that there was a time that people literally believed up was down and that hurting people's feelings was worse than killing people?

 

Maybe what's really going on here is that you have an absolutely terrible media diet that's caused you to believe incredibly stupid things.

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1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

You are saying that there was a time that people literally believed up was down and that hurting people's feelings was worse than killing people?

 

Maybe what's really going on here is that you have an absolutely terrible media diet that's caused you to believe incredibly stupid things.

I’m saying that time is now, and it will be looked back on with disdain. Many in society believe that hurting someone’s feelings is the worst thing you can do - along with being “ racist” which to them is just about anything. They feel sympathy for a criminal and think they must be released because of their race. They don’t care that they promptly go and mug someone assault them or even kill someone. There were media members and certain groups that worried about using the right pronouns when referring to the Christian school shooter because she was trans. Those who think men can be women and that whatever you feel is what you are. That’s the time we are in, and what I was referring to. It began with a response to JaCrispy’s post. I’m not talking about some fictitious point in history. 

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2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I’m saying that time is now, and it will be looked back on with disdain. Many in society believe that hurting someone’s feelings is the worst thing you can do - along with being “ racist” which to them is just about anything. They feel sympathy for a criminal and think they must be released because of their race. They don’t care that they promptly go and mug someone assault them or even kill someone. There were media members and certain groups that worried about using the right pronouns when referring to the Christian school shooter because she was trans. Those who think men can be women and that whatever you feel is what you are. That’s the time we are in, and what I was referring to. It began with a response to JaCrispy’s post. I’m not talking about some fictitious point in history. 


Can you provide evidence of the claim that “Many in society believe that hurting someone’s feelings is the worst thing you can do”?

 

What percentage of people believe that hurting someone’s feelings is worse than killing them?

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1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:


Can you provide evidence of the claim that “Many in society believe that hurting someone’s feelings is the worst thing you can do”?

 

What percentage of people believe that hurting someone’s feelings is worse than killing them?

I don’t need to provide it ..it’s seen every day unless you’re under a rock. Cancel culture, DA’s that don’t prosecute, defunding the Police, “ De- incarceration”. BLM riots. The overall media reaction to the Christian school shooting once they realized the shooter was trans.  The sad and pathetic statement from the White House. An awful state of affairs . I have no idea what percentage but probably most liberals. Of course, being in NY state doesn’t help. Anyway, many have lost sight of down and up, right and wrong. Such outrage over feelings rather than facts. Similar to the Chinese revolution really. It’s not a time that will be looked back on with reverence. 

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8 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I don’t need to provide it ..it’s seen every day unless you’re under a rock. Cancel culture, DA’s that don’t prosecute, defunding the Police, “ De- incarceration”. BLM riots. The overall media reaction to the Christian school shooting once they realized the shooter was trans.  The sad and pathetic statement from the White House. An awful state of affairs . I have no idea what percentage but probably most liberals. Of course, being in NY state doesn’t help. Anyway, many have lost sight of down and up, right and wrong. Such outrage over feelings rather than facts. Similar to the Chinese revolution really. It’s not a time that will be looked back on with reverence. 


Any data at all to back your claim would be helpful. 
 

Is it 50% of people who thinking hurting feelings is worse than murder? 25%? 5%?
 

You seem to believe this is obvious so providing hard data on it should be no problem at all. 

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1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:


Any data at all to back your claim would be helpful. 
 

Is it 50% of people who thinking hurting feelings is worse than murder? 25%? 5%?
 

You seem to believe this is obvious so providing hard data on it should be no problem at all. 

It’s obvious if you pay any attention to national media at all. Heck even local news. What percentage of people vote Democrat ? That’s probably close to your number. 

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1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

It’s obvious if you pay any attention to national media at all. Heck even local news. What percentage of people vote Democrat ? That’s probably close to your number. 


I’ve never met anyone who believes that insulting someone is worse than murdering them. 
 

Seems like a very dubious claim to me. 
 

But you seem so sure! So if you’re a right, it should be no problem at all to provide links to studies or other evidence that supports your claim.

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5 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


I’ve never met anyone who believes that insulting someone is worse than murdering them. 
 

Seems like a very dubious claim to me. 
 

But you seem so sure! So if you’re a right, it should be no problem at all to provide links to studies or other evidence that supports your claim.

No not phrased like that. Not a question on a survey . Just so concerned about certain things that they don’t think about the effects .. even murder. Like worrying about pronouns of a deceased killer with little to no regard for the victims ( they were from a Christian school ) . Like releasing criminals because of their race - while not caring about their victims when they go commit another crime post - release. It’s caring more about the virtue-signal than the consequences. They don’t do studies on these things as they don’t support a liberal narrative. If there is one, they discredit the results. It’s a mindset and it’s pervasive. Not everything revolves around an answer to a survey. Just look at real life , reactions to events. Look at Nike’s reaction to the female athletes upset about trans competition. It’s so dumb it laughable. That’s todays society and it won’t be looked at as a grand time in human history. There’s not much else to be said here as you don’t believe there’s anything wrong with the liberal mindset and how it can be observed in todays society. 

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13 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

No not phrased like that. Not a question on a survey . Just so concerned about certain things that they don’t think about the effects .. even murder. Like worrying about pronouns of a deceased killer with little to no regard for the victims ( they were from a Christian school ) . Like releasing criminals because of their race - while not caring about their victims when they go commit another crime post - release. It’s caring more about the virtue-signal than the consequences. They don’t do studies on these things as they don’t support a liberal narrative. If there is one, they discredit the results. It’s a mindset and it’s pervasive. Not everything revolves around an answer to a survey. Just look at real life , reactions to events. Look at Nike’s reaction to the female athletes upset about trans competition. It’s so dumb it laughable. That’s todays society and it won’t be looked at as a grand time in human history. There’s not much else to be said here as you don’t believe there’s anything wrong with the liberal mindset and how it can be observed in todays society. 

 

I phrased it using your exact words. Here, you can see for yourself:

 

2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Literally believed that down is up and that somehow the worst thing one can do is hurt someone’s feelings. Worse than committing violent crimes. 

 

1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

Many in society believe that hurting someone’s feelings is the worst thing you can do

 

57 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I have no idea what percentage but probably most liberals.

 

So... can you provide any evidence to back these claims? Cite to a study, or a survey, or anything at all? Literally any source?

 

If I said:

"They will certainly look at it as a time when many people lost their minds. Literally believed that Republicans believed in democracy and weren't all members of the Klan. So much so that it’s more offensive to want kids not to be killed than for everyone to own machine guns. So dumb it can’t be believed."

 

Would you believe what I said? If you had previously disagreed, would you then change your mind based on my argument? If you asked for evidence to support my claim and I refused to provide it, would you then be convinced I was right?

 

Or would you just think that I was a partisan hack living in a bubble that prevented me from seeing reality and drove me to believe insane things?

 

So, I'll ask again: please cite your sources.

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16 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

I phrased it using your exact words. Here, you can see for yourself:

 

 

 

 

So... can you provide any evidence to back these claims? Cite to a study, or a survey, or anything at all? Literally any source?

 

If I said:

"They will certainly look at it as a time when many people lost their minds. Literally believed that Republicans believed in democracy and weren't all members of the Klan. So much so that it’s more offensive to want kids not to be killed than for everyone to own machine guns. So dumb it can’t be believed."

Would you believe what I said? If you had previously disagreed, would you then change your mind based on my argument? If you asked for evidence to support my claim and I refused to provide it, would you then be convinced I was right?

 

Or would you just think that I was a partisan hack living in a bubble that prevented me from seeing reality and drove me to believe insane things?

 

So, I'll ask again: please cite your sources.

I cited many examples , you don’t need a survey. The evidence is all around you. They don’t do surveys for such things ; it doesn’t fit the liberal narrative. Believe what you will. The second amendment is a poor comparison , as is your entire flawed example. I don’t care what phrasing you used. Yes I believe you are a partisan hack that subscribes to liberal dogma. That’s not going to change so any further discussion -as I previously stated - is pointless. Btw I’m not trying to persuade you. 

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37 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I cited many examples , you don’t need a survey. The evidence is all around you. They don’t do surveys for such things ; it doesn’t fit the liberal narrative. Believe what you will. The second amendment is a poor comparison , as is your entire flawed example. I don’t care what phrasing you used. Yes I believe you are a partisan hack that subscribes to liberal dogma. That’s not going to change so any further discussion -as I previously stated - is pointless. Btw I’m not trying to persuade you. 


Once again, I used your phrasing. 
 

And you still have yet to cite to a single piece of evidence to support your claim. 
 

I don’t see how anyone could be persuaded by the weak sauce you’re spewing here. 

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3 hours ago, ChiGoose said:


For like the zillionth time, genital surgery on minors goes against the medical guidelines. Surgery on minors is extremely rare and if it is done, it’s generally top surgery performed after years of gender affirming care. 
 

Do you guys care at all that you’re being lied to? When you hear these outrageous claims that liberals are trying to chop up kids genitals, doesn’t it seem ludicrous? Do you ever think to look up what the actual medical guidelines are?


Bad faith actors are trying to boil down the entire range of different forms of gender affirming care into surgery and then lying about it. You’re being fooled and playing right into their hands. 
 

In general, what liberals want for trans kids is that they get age-appropriate medical community approved care from medical professionals with informed consent and parental support. That’s it. This BS about genital surgery is coming from people who seem to be incapable of not thinking about kids’ junk. 

 

i dunno chi. for something that is logical and all in the rights head the left sure seems to be very adversarial on the topic and when you coincide it with the protests to KEEP age inappropriate books on shelves for minors. demand drag queens read to toddlers. protest and condemn a bill that eliminates sexual/gender subjects in GRADES 3 and less. you have a pretty sick trend of children and gender sex that the left is on.

 

its really easy to publically say this is not happening its all in the rights head but if it is we fully agree and condemn it as well. 

 

the left seems to not know that kids grow up. suprisingly when they do. noone has issue with them learning or dancing with drag queens  or whatever. 

 

so myth or not who is really taking the very demented side on these issues? the ones "making them up" or the ones advocating the myth keeps happening?

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4 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

i dunno chi. for something that is logical and all in the rights head the left sure seems to be very adversarial on the topic and when you coincide it with the protests to KEEP age inappropriate books on shelves for minors. demand drag queens read to toddlers. protest and condemn a bill that eliminates sexual/gender subjects in GRADES 3 and less. you have a pretty sick trend of children and gender sex that the left is on.

 

its really easy to publically say this is not happening its all in the rights head but if it is we fully agree and condemn it as well. 

 

the left seems to not know that kids grow up. suprisingly when they do. noone has issue with them learning or dancing with drag queens  or whatever. 

 

so myth or not who is really taking the very demented side on these issues? the ones "making them up" or the ones advocating the myth keeps happening?


Do you believe “And Tango Makes Three” is an inappropriate book?

 

Do you believe that when kids hear a story about two male penguins adopting a baby penguin, they think of sex?

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1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:


Do you believe “And Tango Makes Three” is an inappropriate book?

 

Do you believe that when kids hear a story about two male penguins adopting a baby penguin, they think of sex?

 

no. not at all but your using the lowest common denominator. many parents were reading material they found in their kids library that the board said was inappropriate for the adults at the meeting. so i think we both have to admit that we dont know whats at every district and use the most innocent examples isnt being honest. 

 

as for the other topics? 

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