RichRiderBills Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 Give me the guy w no teeth ...or Campbell 1 Quote
stinky finger Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: MLBs are a devalued position in 2023 and aren’t needed to be superior like they were in the 70s-90s. You need to be able to cover and rush the passer on defense. Name me 15 MLBs currently in the NFL without looking it up and the team they play on. I don’t think I can tbh. Linebackers are to D like RBs are to the offense. They aint what they used to be. Quote
Dan in Owego Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 Love the player, but man your'e right. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Linebackers are to D like RBs are to the offense. They aint what they used to be. Not our defense. MLB is truly a key cog in the McDefense and Campbell is a perfect fit. 1 2 Quote
MJS Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 Some teams are going to have him ranked much higher. Quote
TOboy Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 Ideally we get him mid 2nd by some moving around. If we pull in DHop, perhaps we can grab the best DT or OT available in the 1st (or early 2nd depending on the moves). 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 2 hours ago, whorlnut said: A MLB is not the difference to help us get over the top. This would be beyond bad. I don’t see how it would be bad one thing to keep in mind here the amount of legitimate first round talents. There are in this draft appears to be less so you’re looking at a bunch of second round guys that are going to get picked in the first. If you got a middle linebacker that short up your run, defense had good instincts and could cover and you were able to get that player for five years or four years depending on if they’re in the first or second round pick then you’re getting a difference maker There are going to be a lot of second round grade wide, receivers in the second round that can also be got, which is why I wanted Marvin Mims, who plays a lot like Stefon Diggs 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I don’t see how it would be bad one thing to keep in mind here the amount of legitimate first round talents. There are in this draft appears to be less so you’re looking at a bunch of second round guys that are going to get picked in the first. If you got a middle linebacker that short up your run, defense had good instincts and could cover and you were able to get that player for five years or four years depending on if they’re in the first or second round pick then you’re getting a difference maker There are going to be a lot of second round grade wide, receivers in the second round that can also be got, which is why I wanted Marvin Mims, who plays a lot like Stefon Diggs I think Trenton Simpson is a better talent and a better fit. If you want Campbell, there's a decent chance you can get him at 59. Quote
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I think Trenton Simpson is a better talent and a better fit. If you want Campbell, there's a decent chance you can get him at 59. I don’t think there’s a chance in hell that Jack Campbell is there at 59 1 4 Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I don’t think there’s a chance in hell that Jack Campbell is there at 59 We'll see if he goes in the first or early second. He's a high floor pick. I wouldn't take him at 27 and I don't think Beane will either. Quote
947 Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 If we get Hopkins, I'm cool with Campbell at #27. I agree with others that there's no way he lasts into the 50s. 1 Quote
JaCrispy Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, 947 said: If we get Hopkins, I'm cool with Campbell at #27. I agree with others that there's no way he lasts into the 50s. I would still prefer trading back…Beane really can’t afford to keep reaching on draft picks- it will sink this team… 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I would still prefer trading back…Beane really can’t afford to keep reaching on draft picks- it will sink this team… Trenton Simpson and Drew Sanders probably go before Jack Campbell. I wouldn't take a LB in the first period. If the trade for Hopkins happens, it probably involves a swap of 27 and 34. I would look at OT, G, C, even DT, before I thought about LB early second. I might take Trenton Simpson there. 1 Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Dr. Who said: We'll see if he goes in the first or early second. He's a high floor pick. I wouldn't take him at 27 and I don't think Beane will either. Beane took Edmunds at 16. Why would you think Beane wouldn't take Campbell at 27? 1 Quote
Bookie Man Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 Some team will draft overdraft him because of his character and leadership. Hopefully not us. Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, LyndonvilleBill said: Beane took Edmunds at 16. Why would you think Beane wouldn't take Campbell at 27? 1) I think, but this may be my own bias, that Beane could actually pivot from some draft tendencies that imo have not been smart. I believe he recognizes, he should, that devoting resources to Josh Allen and the offense ought to be a priority. However, if he gravitates back towards defense 2) I think he is going to correctly prioritize DL over LB, but if he doesn't 3) I think Trenton Simpson is a better fit, an athlete with a higher ceiling, and the more likely early LB pick. 1 Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: 1) I think, but this may be my own bias, that Beane could actually pivot from some draft tendencies that imo have not been smart. I believe he recognizes, he should, that devoting resources to Josh Allen and the offense ought to be a priority. However, if he gravitates back towards defense 2) I think he is going to correctly prioritize DL over LB, but if he doesn't 3) I think Trenton Simpson is a better fit, an athlete with a higher ceiling, and the more likely early LB pick. I get what you are saying. I am probably biased towards McDermott having more say in who is drafted. (And obviously, I am a JC fan😉). Especially this draft as he will be taking on PC duties for the D. I think Edmunds was a higher ceiling guy as well (was very good), but, took a while to get there. This time I think they will go more with experience, instincts, better tackling and leadership vs. Potential. More plug and play so to speak. As to resources to JA. Just about the entirety of the offseason was based on offense. If I remember correctly, the only addition to the D was Wrapp at S?🤔 Guess we will find out in about 12 hours or so.😁 Forgot to add, I believe #31 is available. 😉🤣 Edited April 27, 2023 by LyndonvilleBill Forgot to add. 1 Quote
Doc Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: I get what you are saying. I am probably biased towards McDermott having more say in who is drafted. (And obviously, I am a JC fan😉). Especially this draft as he will be taking on PC duties for the D. I think Edmunds was a higher ceiling guy as well (was very good), but, took a while to get there. This time I think they will go more with experience, instincts, better tackling and leadership vs. Potential. More plug and play so to speak. As to resources to JA. Just about the entirety of the offseason was based on offense. If I remember correctly, the only addition to the D was Wrapp at S?🤔 Guess we will find out in about 12 hours or so.😁 Did he ever get there? Quote
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