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4 hours ago, Herb Nightly said:

I think a trade would be the last resort, because you have to not only take on a contract (that might be fiscally risky) AND give up resources (draft picks or players.)

Free agency is just "spending money" so it would be great to sign a team-friendly deal on another young, veteran WR.

Depending on what they do prior to the draft, I think WR is absolutely the #1 or #2 pick (the other being MLB)

What about a RT with one of our first 2 picks?  Last I looked Spencer Brown was terrible.  

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36 minutes ago, Success said:

 

Just a quick clarification:  we BEAT the KC of the league in our last meeting.

 

Why do we continually celebrate regular season wins? We’re 2-2 against KC in the last 4 meetings with the two wins coming during the regular season and the two losses during the playoffs. Are you that confident the next time we meet them in the playoffs with this roster? Just because we beat them in the regular season? They’ve proven they can win it all when it matters most whereas we have yet to prove that. 

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3 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I'm not convinced that McDermott/Beane will go WR high enough in this draft to get a difference maker. 

 

I have hopes that WR's fall as a whole and teams go with other WR's before Quentin Johnston first. Probably wishful thinking, though I did see Daniel Jeremiah mock him to us at 27.

 

Anyone who watched the TCU v. Michigan CFP should know what I'm talking about.

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7 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I have hopes that WR's fall as a whole and teams go with other WR's before Quentin Johnston first. Probably wishful thinking, though I did see Daniel Jeremiah mock him to us at 27.

 

Anyone who watched TCU v. Michigan in the CFP should know what I'm talking about.

I read that and checked him out a bit. I'd be ok with it. I'm just gonna trust McBeane. I spend way too much time on here. It's stressful   Yo.

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16 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

I'm fine taking a WR in the 3td and MLB in the 2nd. I want the best OL we can get with our first pick. Maybe we trade up or back, but I want an OT that can start for many years to come and play at a high level.

How about Campell 27   Mauch (sp?)  59   Rashee Rice  91.  I would consider this satisfactory....maybe even lucky.

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36 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Why do we continually celebrate regular season wins? We’re 2-2 against KC in the last 4 meetings with the two wins coming during the regular season and the two losses during the playoffs. Are you that confident the next time we meet them in the playoffs with this roster? Just because we beat them in the regular season? They’ve proven they can win it all when it matters most whereas we have yet to prove that. 

 

Who was celebrating?

 

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Not sure how I feel about Hop. He’s been elite but in his 30s now, durability is more an issue, had his PED suspension last year and then there’s that contract which if Arizona doesnt contribute is way too much for the Bills to handle. 

To me we need another WR but he needs to be a good one. Daniel Jeremiah, who has been right a lot in his predictions, including his predictions for the Bills (Stringer at 9), sees us drafting Johnston. It’s not a crazy idea. Johnston has a flavour of boom or bust. Much more risk imo than Addison, Flowers, JSN who Jeremiah sees as going before Johnson. I think I would do pretty much the same as Jeremiah in ranking my WR preferences for the Bills draft.

 

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3 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Well you keep bringing up the fact we beat them in meaningless regular season games like they’re big accomplishments. 

 

The post I was responding to specifically said we're not likely to improve enough to "compete w/ the KC's."  I wasn't touting it as a big accomplishment. I was just stating the fact - we're good enough to beat them now.  And we have been.

 

It's a theme w/ me.  I think the Cincy game skewed many perspectives on here - like we're way behind the top teams.  I don't subscribe to that POV.  We're as good as anyone.

 

 

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1 hour ago, GreggTX said:

I'm fine taking a WR in the 3td and MLB in the 2nd. I want the best OL we can get with our first pick. Maybe we trade up or back, but I want an OT that can start for many years to come and play at a high level.

Which MLB do you think is availabe at 59 to take? 

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2 hours ago, Success said:

 

Just a quick clarification:  we BEAT the KC of the league in our last meeting.

 

I'm well aware of that. Thus far, the Bills have been a great regular season team. It wins them AFC East titles. No small accomplishment. 

 

The next step forward has been much different in a not so good way. No need to rehash that. 

 

Depends on what satisfies your appetite. Many here are fine with great regular season records, winning the division, and making the playoffs. Especially, when you remember the past two decades of Bills play. 

 

As for me, I want a Super Bowl appearance and a Super Bowl win. The Bills have a top 5 WB in the league and thus far have fallen short. These last two years certainly seem like wasted opportunities. 

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4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I'm well aware of that. Thus far, the Bills have been a great regular season team. It wins them AFC East titles. No small accomplishment. 

 

The next step forward has been much different in a not so good way. No need to rehash that. 

 

Depends on what satisfies your appetite. Many here are fine with great regular season records, winning the division, and making the playoffs. Especially, when you remember the past two decades of Bills play. 

 

As for me, I want a Super Bowl appearance and a Super Bowl win. The Bills have a top 5 WB in the league and thus far have fallen short. These last two years certainly seem like wasted opportunities. 

 

It would be silly of me to deny that we have a playoff issue. But I think we all want a SB win.

 

All you can do is stay in the game, and keep giving yourself opportunities.  The team that won in the end was one we beat and I think could have beaten again - but they got hot at the right time, and had luck go their way in the WC round, the AFCCG, and the SB itself.

 

Most of the time, teams need a bit of that to get over the top.  We all thought getting Von Miller was the big move that would get us there.  But he got hurt, then we had a ton of other stuff go wrong.  Not only did we not get much luck at the end - it really went against us.

 

I don't really care if that sounds like an excuse.  The team was exhausted emotionally by the playoffs. And I don't think that's because we're a soft team. I think that would have happened to any team in the same circumstances.

 

As we're currently constructed, I think we're as good as anyone.  

 

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33 minutes ago, Success said:

 

The post I was responding to specifically said we're not likely to improve enough to "compete w/ the KC's."  I wasn't touting it as a big accomplishment. I was just stating the fact - we're good enough to beat them now.  And we have been.

 

It's a theme w/ me.  I think the Cincy game skewed many perspectives on here - like we're way behind the top teams.  I don't subscribe to that POV.  We're as good as anyone.

 

 

Disagree that the Bills are as good as anyone. They have consistently pooped out of every playoff game in the McD era. 

 

I will give you that the Bills are as good as anyone during the regular season.

 

The playoffs have illustrated the Bills aren't superior to the upper echolen teams like KC and Cinci. 

 

Go ahead and make excuses and believe you lies. I'll believe my eyes and the facts. 

 

I will remain skeptical that this team led by McD can get over the hump. 

6 minutes ago, Success said:

 

It would be silly of me to deny that we have a playoff issue. But I think we all want a SB win.

 

All you can do is stay in the game, and keep giving yourself opportunities.  The team that won in the end was one we beat and I think could have beaten again - but they got hot at the right time, and had luck go their way in the WC round, the AFCCG, and the SB itself.

 

Most of the time, teams need a bit of that to get over the top.  We all thought getting Von Miller was the big move that would get us there.  But he got hurt, then we had a ton of other stuff go wrong.  Not only did we not get much luck at the end - it really went against us.

 

I don't really care if that sounds like an excuse.  The team was exhausted emotionally by the playoffs. And I don't think that's because we're a soft team. I think that would have happened to any team in the same circumstances.

 

As we're currently constructed, I think we're as good as anyone.  

 

I don't buy much this. All excuses. Every team had injuries and circumstances to overcome. 

 

The team got waxed at home in the biggest playoff game in recent memory. Out coached by a country mile. Manhandled like men playing against boys. 

 

Your excuses fall woefully short.

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5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Disagree that the Bills are as good as anyone. They have consistently pooped out of every playoff game in the McD era. 

 

I will give you that the Bills are as good as anyone during the regular season.

 

The playoffs have illustrated the Bills aren't superior to the upper echolen teams like KC and Cinci. 

 

Go ahead and make excuses and believe you lies. I'll believe my eyes and the facts. 

 

I will remain skeptical that this team led by McD can get over the hump. 

They have consistently been a top 5 to 6 over recent years

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