Big Turk Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) Said it is unsustainable the way he is playing football and being wreckless at times. Says history has shown it and says they talk about it all the time but the message doesn't seem to have gotten through enough and says it HAS to change next year. Brought it up multiple times during the interview apparently. Pretty strong message being sent from McD. Should make all the people freaking out about Allen running so much happy... Battista: McDermott 'louder than ever' in his emphasis on Josh Allen needing to slide https://www.nfl.com/videos/battista-mcdermott-louder-than-ever-in-his-emphasis-on-josh-allen-needing-to-sli Edited March 27, 2023 by Big Turk 13 1 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 It is on Josh and frankly I am not sure you can change him. 7 2 17 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted March 27, 2023 Author Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: It is on Josh and frankly I am not sure you can change him. Agreed, but I mean what is he going to do, bench him? Edited March 27, 2023 by Big Turk 3 Quote
Gregg Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 With a better OL and better RB's that will drastically reduce the amount of running plays Josh gets. Also, better pass protection means Josh won't have to run for his life to avoid the rush. 5 13 6 Quote
GoBills808 Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 Sure Give him a POS oline and oh by the way you're going to be the majority of the run game too so basically the entire offense is on your back but you BETTER SLIDE give me a break w this 6 6 4 7 3 Quote
Mikie2times Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 I'm almost wondering which path leads to a higher injury risk because you know he's never going to go into full on protection mode. I think the worse place he can be is in between who he is and who others want him to be. That's where injuries will happen. 3 4 Quote
Dr.Sack Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 Both major elbow injuries happened in the pocket. My take just have him run less overall by giving him a #1 bell cow RB and a decent OL. But in terms of sliding I don’t think he ever will, that’s not in his DNA. 5 1 Quote
Ramza86 Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 You know why Josh runs coach? Because you provided him with a garbage offensive line. 18 3 1 2 6 Quote
blacklabel Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 Get the OL squared away and he won't have to bail and run as soon as he gets the ball. You don't remove that part of his game entirely, though. You can see how hyped the team gets when Josh runs for a big first down or leaps over a dude. I mean I'm all for him protecting himself and running less, that's fine. But you also gotta find that balance where they're still letting him be him. For what it's worth, both injuries he's dealt with in his NFL career happened in the pocket. 2 8 Quote
Don Otreply Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: It is on Josh and frankly I am not sure you can change him. Sit his ass for a series to make the point if needed, Josh can’t be so “ignorant” as to purposefully put the entire team’s future in jeopardy, and that’s how you put It to him, he will learn. It’s good that his Boss is driving this point home. 2 1 2 2 1 4 5 Quote
ddaryl Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) Our OL has been offensive give him more time to work Also not sure if its Allen or O Scheme but we have to be able to take the underneath stuff more regularly. This way he is not just waiting for the downfield stuff to develop and won't see protection break down as much so he won't have to run as much. Edited March 27, 2023 by ddaryl 2 Quote
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 The offense is far harder to play against once Allen starts running, especially on scrambles. Calling less designed runs and having him get down or go out of bounds is more practical. But even at that, it's probably not happening.😂 2 1 Quote
mjt328 Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 It's a much bigger risk to play behind an O-Line that frequently allows free rushers to break through. 3 2 Quote
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Sit his ass for a series to make the point if needed, Josh can’t be so “ignorant” as to purposefully put the entire team’s future in jeopardy, and that’s how you put It to him, he will learn. It’s good that his Boss is driving this point home. That's not happening. He's the most powerful person in the Bills organization outside of the owners. 1 Quote
BruceVilanch Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 Josh is a peacock, you gotta let him fly! 1 1 2 1 Quote
Gregg Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 Elway was the same way early in his career. He was just a smaller version of Allen. Early on he would scramble a lot. He didn't have as many designed runs as Allen does. But the game was different back then. Things changed when Davis got there. He did all the heavy lifting running the ball. As John got older, he became a pocket passer and hardly ran at all. Allen will probably have to the same if he doesn't want his career cut short. 2 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 99% of the time when Josh is running the ball HE does the hitting and the Defender takes the punishment. There have been maybe 2 hits in his career that he took the brunt of. He is far safer running the ball and delivering the wood, than standing in the pocket while defenders tee off on him. 5 2 Quote
SCBills Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 As long as they give him a strong OL and decent running game, they have every right to demand Josh chill out on the hits he takes outside the pocket. There is a time and place to unleash Allen, but when he tears up his UCL, spends all week trying to find a way to get cleared to play, and then tries to punch the ball out on a turnover with his bad arm … it’s clear he needs to be coached on this. 1 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: You know why Josh runs coach? Because you provided him with a garbage offensive line. He's in charge of who plays, not who is drafted and signed. 1 Quote
Momma Pecoraro Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 Dude needs a neuro-psychiatrist. Too much feast or famine not enough nibbling at the margins. 1 1 Quote
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